NAP0537-NAP0545 Russian Pavlovski Grenadiers (1 Viewer)

From a few years I was waiting for new russian infantry. I think I said a few times Russian Tauride are my faworite FL figures, and I was hope to continue my Borodino project. So when I have seen new figures are same which I already had I got disappointed.

Ok for future I should think twice before posting more complains. Good to know already that polish lancers will be the same as red lancers, this helps me to avoid next disappointment and posting next complains.

Staying big fan of FL figures and waiting for new releases.

Great dio!

Just to add a bit of follow up to this. One of the things that makes us unique and that I believe our customers appreciate is that when we do these releases we do a LOT of different figure variants all performing slightly different actions within the same basic movement. This allows for really nice formations with variety in them so that fewer or no repeats are necessary and the subtle movement variances make for a more realistic display. These figures were very much designed with that in mind and were meant to be displayed similar to the group image of them. So there are 17 figures in total in this case, with other releases we have done more with one with 30 and one with 40 different figures. We do this to offer the collector a variety in the type of display that they setup. Now, we what we could have done was release some of the figures as Tauride Grenadiers and some of the figures as Pavlovski Grenadiers, therefore there would be little to no overlap between the two releases. But...neither release would be as good as it could be or have the flexibility that each release has. It's simply not economical to sculpt 17 different Tauride Grenadiers and 17 different Pavlovski Grenadiers. Not for Russian figures anyway which have a lower popularity than say French figures. So I guess it's all in how you look at it. With 17 different figures there is a pretty decent variety in what you can do with them in terms of a display. Looking at the image below, the front unit looks very different in pose/action than the rear unit. All made from the same release. So folks can either complain that the figures are used again (which is certainly their right to do so!) or applaud the size and scope and variety of the release and the fact that we create as many Russian/Prussian/Austrian/Polish/Confederation/etc figures as we do. :)

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Anyway, I think you guys know my thoughts on this and I have listened to and noted the feedback, both good and bad and I don't have any issue whatsoever with collectors complaining as I'm well aware that in an ideal world all of you would have preferred totally new sculpts for this release. I get that. But the situation was really either Pavlovski Grenadiers produced like this or not produced at all. For those who want this regiment in their collection or more Russian Napoleonic figures in general, we think it's a great release. For those who have an issue with the release because they have the previous Tauride Grenadiers, that's too bad as you're missing out on superior figures of an iconic regiment.

Last point just to be sure there is no confusion. I make this post and others solely to explain our thinking behind why we do what we do, not to try to convince anyone to think other than they think or to suppress critique or anything like that. It's simply to share my thinking, nothing more nothing less!

Best,

Matt
 
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From a few years I was waiting for new russian infantry. I think I said a few times Russian Tauride are my faworite FL figures, and I was hope to continue my Borodino project. So when I have seen new figures are same which I already had I got disappointed.

Ok for future I should think twice before posting more complains. Good to know already that polish lancers will be the same as red lancers, this helps me to avoid next disappointment and posting next complains.

Staying big fan of FL figures and waiting for new releases.

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NICE CUSTOM FIGURES.....I wish that some of these Russian Grenadier Taurides figures were produced by FL this time around.....Great Diorama:salute:::salute::....I like those fighting poses with the orginal traditional hats....I don't care so much for the mitre hats of the new releases but I may add a few....Still I would have preferred to see fighting poses for the Russian Grenadier Taurides.
 
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WOW....Fantastic Diorama:salute::.....Where do you buy all these Russian Tauride Grenadier NAP figures??.... Quite clearly many of these are not FL Russians but they seem to fit in well with FL in terms of scale and painting style...... I would certainly buy some if I knew where to get them.
 
I wish we could find out how and where to purchase some of these fighting poses???? Especially concerning the Russian Tauride Grenadier figures.....I would like to see some Russian Grenadier Taurides produced by FL in the "Mass Battle Series" for my existing ranks......When will we see the FL "Mass Battle Series" for Napoleonic Figures???? .......Mass Battle Series is much needed if we would like to have a diorama set up similar to this one.....Hopefully it is in the works and seriously being considered by First Legion.
 
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I wish we could find out how and where to purchase some of these fighting poses???? Especially concerning the Russian Tauride Grenadier figures.....I would like to see some Russian Grenadier Taurides produced by FL in the "Mass Battle Series" for my existing ranks......When will we see the FL "Mass Battle Series" for Napoleonic Figures???? .......Mass Battle Series is much needed if we would like to have a diorama set up similar to this one.....Hopefully it is in the works and seriously being considered by First Legion.

Frank - the fighting poses look to me like VID Soldiers

See link below to their Russian sets. To be honest they look very hit and miss to me

https://forum.treefrogtreasures.com/showthread.php?54622-VID-soldiers-Napoleonic-russian-army-sets
 
We've already been there and done this one, its a no sale for Frank they don't take paypal.
They do not look like VID soldiers as near as I can tell......Pay-pal is not the only issue:rolleyes2:....It is difficult to place an order with VID and to me seems difficult to actually see the product on line along with price....if they had an actual website like other manufacturers it would be easier and my order would likely already be placed.....,,,,,Again I hope that FL will launch a "NAPS Mass Battle Series" which would allow us to create larger diorama scenes like this one shown.....It's long overdue IMO as so far we have only seen Civil War and Zulu........A NAPS Mass Battle Series from FL is wanted by many NAP collectors and needed if we are to create larger diorama battle scenes with FL figures.
 
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They do not look like VID soldiers as near as I can tell......Pay-pal is not the only issue:rolleyes2:....It is difficult to place an order with VID and to me seems difficult to actually see the product on line along with price....if they had an actual website like other manufacturers it would be easier and my order would likely already be placed......

Sorry Frank but I can only go by what you say and and I qoute.

"No pay-pal payment method is a deal breaker for me.....Sorry"

And a link to the VID thread where you posted it just in case :wink2:. I remember because I was hoping you would pull the trigger and give a nice review when you had them in hand. Their coverage of napoleonic units is just incredible, I hope I live long enough for FL to get there.

https://forum.treefrogtreasures.com/showthread.php?54621-VID-soldiers-Napoleonic-french-army-sets post #225
 
Sorry Frank but I can only go by what you say and and I qoute.

"No pay-pal payment method is a deal breaker for me.....Sorry"

And a link to the VID thread where you posted it just in case :wink2:. I remember because I was hoping you would pull the trigger and give a nice review when you had them in hand. Their coverage of napoleonic units is just incredible, I hope I live long enough for FL to get there.

https://forum.treefrogtreasures.com/showthread.php?54621-VID-soldiers-Napoleonic-french-army-sets post #225

Gebs, Have you purchased any NAP figures from VID?? I ask this seriously.... If so, maybe you could give us an actual review of the products as well as give us some feedback regarding the ease of placing an order.... maybe you have some first hand knowledge to share with me.....Again if FL would release a NAPS Mass Battle Series we would not likely be considering VID NAPS AT ALL:wink2:
 
I was contemplating purchasing some but didn't think they were as high a quality as FL and didn't want to start mixing them into my collection. I exchanged a few emails with the company and I think they accept Western Union as a form of payment.
 
I was contemplating purchasing some but didn't think they were as high a quality as FL and didn't want to start mixing them into my collection. I exchanged a few emails with the company and I think they accept Western Union as a form of payment.

Agree Brad, some of them look very good but some NOT SO GOOD....and it's hard to place an order without a website ....Also wiring cash via Western Union is not acceptable to me.....Really I would like to see FL release some Mass Battle Naps...Hopefully Soon
 
I was contemplating purchasing some but didn't think they were as high a quality as FL and didn't want to start mixing them into my collection. I exchanged a few emails with the company and I think they accept Western Union as a form of payment.

Not even close to our quality. VID = Tinbay as I understand it and as they are in Russia, my guess is they won't use the banks or credit cards or paypal because then they have to report the income and, heaven forbid, pay taxes. Many Russians don't really believe in paying taxes. :)
 
Not even close to our quality. VID = Tinbay as I understand it and as they are in Russia, my guess is they won't use the banks or credit cards or paypal because then they have to report the income and, heaven forbid, pay taxes. Many Russians don't really believe in paying taxes. :)

Matt, Do you think that we will see a NAPS Mass Battle Series soon??.... Is it being considered ?
 
Not even close to our quality. VID = Tinbay as I understand it and as they are in Russia, my guess is they won't use the banks or credit cards or paypal because then they have to report the income and, heaven forbid, pay taxes. Many Russians don't really believe in paying taxes. :)

I didn't mean to imply that they were anywhere in the ballpark.

Now, who likes to pay taxes? ^&grin
 
Matt, Do you think that we will see a NAPS Mass Battle Series soon??.... Is it being considered ?

Well, as I'm sure you all know, "soon" is a very relative term. But the general answer is yes and yes.

Matt
 
I don't know about VID but if I recall correctly Tinbay with Boris was in the Ukraine , not Russia and he took PayPal. I have looked at the VID range and it would definitely help to have a website and payment by PayPal.
Blackbob
 
I don't know about VID but if I recall correctly Tinbay with Boris was in the Ukraine , not Russia and he took PayPal. I have looked at the VID range and it would definitely help to have a website and payment by PayPal.
Blackbob

I'm not really sure about it, but on the VID facebook page it says website "www.tinbay.com" but the website isn't active. Further, depending on where he was in the Ukraine, he could very well be in Russia now..............
 

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