NAZI GERMANY WHO CAME FIRST the SS or the SA (1 Viewer)

[Sgtkillroy1944]

In Nazi Germany who came first the SS or SA

 

[trooper]

SA.....Trooper

 

[Martin Tabony]

As I understood it the SA pre-date the Nazi party, whereas the SS were formed as "protection" for the Nazis.

Martin

 

[Rob]

The title of this thread...too many jokes about Nazi's and their admirers...must resist!^&grin

I understand the SA came first but many of their leaders were killed in the 'Night of the long knives' weren't they?

Rob

 

[Fat Boy]

Sturmabteillung (SA) 1921

Schutzstaffel (SS) 1925

 

[jazzeum]

The title of this thread...too many jokes about Nazi's and their admirers...must resist!^&grin

I understand the SA came first but many of their leaders were killed in the 'Night of the long knives' weren't they?

Rob

That is correct. They cut off the "head" of the SA so to speak. The Army viewed the SA as a threat and Rohm had made some noises about taking over the Army or something like that and so the Army said to Hitler that they would pledge their support to Hitler if he got rid of the SA. He did and it was absorbed into the SS. So much for loyalty with that lot. The history of Weimar Germany is quite interesting.

 

[Rob]

That is correct. They cut off the "head" of the SA so to speak. The Army viewed the SA as a threat and Rohm had made some noises about taking over the Army or something like that and so the Army said to Hitler that they would pledge their support to Hitler if he got rid of the SA. He did and it was absorbed into the SS. So much for loyalty with that lot. The history of Weimar Germany is quite interesting.

It is interesting Brad, I've seen several docus about the period and the plotting, scheming and back stabbing that went on is both shocking and fascinating.

Rob

 

[trooper]

I wish that an equivalent number of books were written about the Indian Army as there are on the SS. Every book list I get seems to be at least a third full of Nazi content. The majority are just a rehash of previous items with maybe two photos that have not been seen before, whereas the Indian Army is confined to about seven or eight volumes of which only a couple are still in print. Trooper

 

[Martin Tabony]

I wish that an equivalent number of books were written about the Indian Army as there are on the SS. Every book list I get seems to be at least a third full of Nazi content. The majority are just a rehash of previous items with maybe two photos that have not been seen before, whereas the Indian Army is confined to about seven or eight volumes of which only a couple are still in print. Trooper

I couldn't agree more, especially colours and standards!

Martin

 

[Arnhemjim]

I wish that an equivalent number of books were written about the Indian Army as there are on the SS. Every book list I get seems to be at least a third full of Nazi content. The majority are just a rehash of previous items with maybe two photos that have not been seen before, whereas the Indian Army is confined to about seven or eight volumes of which only a couple are still in print. Trooper

Also absolutely concur. Aside from those Osprey Series books covering the British Indian Army, I have only two other books covering the subject with color plates. The first is Boris Mollo’s book, The INDIAN ARMY, B. Mollo, Blandford, Poole, Dorset, 1981, ISBN 0 7137 1074 8. The second, a classic gem, THE ARMIES OF INDIA, Painted by Maj. C. Lovett, Text by Maj. G.F. MacMunn DSO, Adam & Charles Black, London, 1911, First Edition (No ISBN). I’m certain there are some errors in each, probably more in the Osprey books, but the latter two are excellent references. With regard to the initial question, and as a student of history, I find it very difficult to believe that particularly those members of the forum with a strong interest in WWII Germany would not be any more knowledgeable regarding the sequence of events, or apparently the organizational interrelationship between the SA, SS, Waffen-SS, and the Wehrmacht (Just in my humble opinion).
Arnhemjim
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