Nelson's Deck Scene with Victory Oak (1 Viewer)

[Peter Reuss]

Britains #41143, which is Nelson's Death Scene, has arrived! This set comes with a piece of wood which is taken from the HMS Victory, Nelson's flagship at the Battle of Trafalgar . This is a neat chance to own a slice of history.

It's available at http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/41143.shtml

 

[wellington]

I just received this set today, the pictures do no not do it justice!!! If you are a Napoleonic colector I think this is a must have for anyone...There is no one else out there othar than Britains putting this much time, research and thought into the navy during this time period(ie:Nelson Series). The fact that you actually receive a piece of the ship when it was restored in 1905 is amazing!! I have made a many calls and confirmed that the wood is 100% authentic present on the ship during her famous battles. I have put my sets next to my K&C Napoleonics in the same display cases and have found they enhance my collection two fold. It gives someone something to look at rather than looking at a sea of soldiers.......

Cheers
Wellington
PS..The 32pdr set, Nelson Deck Scene, 3 piece marines etc are awsome!!!

Thats my 2 cents worth for today ...I think

 

[jazzeum]

If I were a Napoleonic collector, I think I would want something like this. However, cutting up the Victory is something that rubs me the wrong way. You're cutting up a piece of history as a collector's gimmick. I've seen this done in other collectibles, such as baseball, where they were cutting up one of Babe Ruth's bats. That provoked a lot of controversy and I don't see why this shouldn't either as it's historically more significant.

 

[Shannon Reuss]

Hi Brad,
It was my understanding that the wood from the Victory was from boards that needed to be replaced anyway. Thus, the salvaged wood became a hot commodity. They must have replaced a lot of boards because I have been told it has been made into all kinds of things commemorating the Victory over in the UK and that you could start a whole collection just of "things made out of Victory oak." So they weren't just hacking up the ship for parts, but instead making use of old worn out boards.

 

[wellington]

Peter is right on the money...the wood NEEDED to be replaced but more importantly some of the proceeds from this money is going towards much more needed work to the Victory...so in a sense collectors will be helping with the preservation of the ship and its legacy. Some of the wood also came from cross beams which became unsafe which provided a nice amount of Victory oak. I'm against the destruction of history as well. I think this is a good thing as long as they don't take advantage of it...I doubt it.... this work is under the direction of the British government to preserve Britains most valued treasure (She is still Englands flag ship!!! There is still a commissioned captain aboard her today); also it should be noted that each piece that is sold has been carfully catelogged and kept on record by the govn't as to the description of the pieces sold and to who, once this is done the certificates are made by the govrn't then signed by the Captain. The wood has been in storage since 1905 and not used except during that breif time when she was repaired...thus you will find some commorative pieces dated around 1905-1927. As 100 years role around the ship is in bad need of repair so the sale of some of the wood which was removed in 1905 will be going towards the ships repairs today, which is all together fitting as the anniversary is at our door steps. The intention is to bring her up to her standard in 1805 during her most famous battle to save England. In my mind I'm helping to preserve history. I undertand your point Brad it SHOULD never be taken apart except for its preservation and never just to raise money or for collectors unless it needs to be removed. Hey the ship was built in the mid 1700's I'm sure it re is in need of replaced wood.

See:
http://www.nelsonvictory.com/
SORRY ABOUT THE WEB PAGE CAN'T GET IT TO WORK MAYBE IF YOU HAND TYPE IT

Cheers
Wellington.....

 

[jazzeum]

Wellington,

I stand corrected. Thanks for the explanation. BTW, did you see the article about Nelson in a recent US News and World Report. Pretty good for beginners who don't know much about Trafalgar (like me).

 

[wellington]

No problem Brad...I haven't read the article but whish I could. England put forth her best man and her best ship to stop France, and duty revailed!!

Remember "England expects each man to do his duty"

Cheers
Wellington

 

[sceic2]

I have had the opportunity to tour several of the preserved sailing ships in England. Victory, Cutty Shark and several others of note. Man oh man, what beauty. Man truely is a wonderous creature that can produce such wonders. And to think that they actually sailed is truely mind blowing. I have had the honor to be on the Constitution in Boston and the Constellation in Baltimore. They, and the preserved ships in San Francisco truely represent the height of mans creativity in sailing and just plain beauty. I hope that all of them are preserved for our following generations. Ships of steel, while wonderful and in some ways beautiful (in my opinion anyway), will never rank with these man-made works of art. I hope everyone gets the chance to see them and can help in anyway possible to save them. Michael

 

[jazzeum]

No problem Brad...I haven't read the article but whish I could. England put forth her best man and her best ship to stop France, and duty revailed!!

Remember "England expects each man to do his duty"

Cheers
Wellington

That phrase, which is powerful, is probably only rivalled by some of Churchill's.