New Britains Releases (1 Viewer)

Carlos, nice job posting all those pics, thanks. The new Britains stuff looks great, their sculpts and painting just keep getting better and better, those scenic pieces and accessories are awesome, I wish K&C would do more of that.:)

Fred
 
Carlos,

Thanks for getting some Britains photos up. Its good to see Richard, Ken and others are doing a great job. The figures sculpting, poses, and painting are excellent. I am happy to see that the scenic are such that they can be used in various periods.

Re new Super Deetail figures, I recall reading somewhere that something new maybe coming out in this range. Meanwhile, if you haven't seen the DSG Argentina variants, they are worth checking. I can't find the manufacturers site, here is a dealer that sells the range.

Carlos, are there any photos of Deetail figures or scenics? If so, would you be able to post them?:)
 
hhenry said:
Carlos,

Thanks for getting some Britains photos up. Its good to see Richard, Ken and others are doing a great job. The figures sculpting, poses, and painting are excellent. I am happy to see that the scenic are such that they can be used in various periods.

Re new Super Deetail figures, I recall reading somewhere that something new maybe coming out in this range. Meanwhile, if you haven't seen the DSG Argentina variants, they are worth checking. I can't find the manufacturers site, here is a dealer that sells the range.

Carlos, are there any photos of Deetail figures or scenics? If so, would you be able to post them?:)
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Thanks hhenry,

Good questions. I don't have any special "in with" Britains. These pictures are courtesy of Michigan Toys and there are new glossy sets too in their "Future Release" section. Below is a link to there "Futrure Release" section for plastics. You'll have to be the judge if they're any new sets.

Check it out:
http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/preorder_release_folder/upcoming_1-32.html

Enjoy,

Carlos
 
Each of the new Waterloo, ACW and WW2 items will make it into my collection.Notice they are also offering several of the firing figures from various ranges as singles.

In particular I like LT Legros with his Pioneer ax, The French drummer boy being captured{ Said to be the only prisoner taken of the 100 or so French that got into the courtyard at Hougamont} , and the Routed Yankee sets are interesting too.They look panic stricken!
All great stuf .
I'm going to try and resist until the OTSN show so I have something to look forward to buying there.

Thanks for posting Carlos

FubAR
 
fishead19690 said:
The new britains stuff looks great!!! I noticed a few things i,ve been waiting to see made in there like the french trooper with the axe which was needed in the first north gate set as it was Lt. legros with a sappers axe who led the way through the gates.
The french flag bearer looks great also and I like the new scenics and wall scetions for the hougomont but the new north gate section is incorrect and has that roof section build onto it??? there was a small shed built onto the great barn similar to this but it was behind this section of the gate. I,ll stick to my old north gate set!
I like the clothes line idea and this was something that I had thought of tring to make myself in the past. They have some great ideas with the scenic stuff and it looks like the new britains is going to be a very improved company.
I can,t wait to see what else they come up with, it looks like they have been listening to the requests of there costumers.
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Hello There! Please understand that the new North Gate walls are correct. The old one was based on a Victorian painting by Gibbs and showed the western end of the wall much as it appeared in images taken in the late 1840s. However if you look at the three known ( two anonymous and one by R. Reeve) watercolors of the north wall of the farm dating from late 1815-16 you will see that although the roofs were destroyed by fire, the gable end of the cart shed remained. This structure was an add on to the north end of the great barn. The gable ends of the great barn would be twice the height of the cart shed. I have designed the cart shed gable end to be added on to if we decide to do this at a later date. Ken Osen
 
Ken have you any idea as to when we'll see photos of Britians Matte finished Zulu Series.......The Lt.
 
More walls for the defenses His lordship should be pleased! Uh-ohhh more french troops Sir Arthur will be most vexed!
 
Since we're hoping to get the web site switched soon (were have you heard THAT before??), I will be posting all the new Britains on here. I'll give each category its own thread. So head on over to the Britains category and see what there is to offer.
 
Ken Osen/H&A Studio said:
Hello There! Please understand that the new North Gate walls are correct. The old one was based on a Victorian painting by Gibbs and showed the western end of the wall much as it appeared in images taken in the late 1840s. However if you look at the three known ( two anonymous and one by R. Reeve) watercolors of the north wall of the farm dating from late 1815-16 you will see that although the roofs were destroyed by fire, the gable end of the cart shed remained. This structure was an add on to the north end of the great barn. The gable ends of the great barn would be twice the height of the cart shed. I have designed the cart shed gable end to be added on to if we decide to do this at a later date. Ken Osen
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I,m sure your research is better then mine! I knew that there was a shed on that side of the great barn but I never knew that it was actually connected to the wall and the gate.
I,ve seen various paintings done of this section of hougomont and have seen this shed painted a few different ways and I think I also saw one of the paintings that you are talking about but the painting was on the crude side and I always thought that this was an incorrect painting by someone who was just winging the painting and just using artistic freedom.
Most of the paintings i,ve seen have the shed ending before it hits the wall and others don,t even show the shed at all.
The only actual pictures that I have seen are from modern times and late 19th century and early 20th century and do not show any trace of the shed.
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The simple watercolor you mention is one of three different ones painted by visitors to the site between late summer of 1815 to 1816. All three of these show the same details that support the reconstruction. This is also typical of enclosed NW European farm construction of the 17th and 18th centuries. The photos are some of the images that I mentioned, and there are several others including two different views of the surviving foundations to the well/dovecot that was also modeled for this catalog. The lower image you posted is the one that was used as reference for the Gibbs painting. If you notice in the first image that you posted (the top) there is a verticle line of rough masonary half way between the edge of the image and the gateway. This is the remains of the west end gable wall of the cow sheds. These were gone along with the cart sheds by the time the images were taken. I hope to be able to do the cow and cart sheds someday to complete the north wall running east. Then you would be at the garden/orchard walls which were modeled for this catalog.
These brick and limestone walls are common in this entire area and are useful for Napoleonic, WWI and WWII scenes...Ken
 
Just had a look at some ofmy books and found a picture in a book called"Wterloo Relics", which I'm sure most of you have seen...anyhow, page 50 at the top shows a picture of the gate...although taken many years after and perhaps modified some, the building appears seperate from the wall...I think real pictures prove whether it was or it wasn't, if someone can provide a real picture rather than a water color or painting it maybe more accurate.

Found more pictures here:
http://www.trabel.com/waterloo/waterloo-hougoumont.htm

Cheers
WELLINGTON
 
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wellington said:
Just had a look at some ofmy books and found a picture in a book called"Wterloo Relics", which I'm sure most of you have seen...anyhow, page 50 at the top shows a picture of the gate...although taken many years after and perhaps modified some, the building appears seperate from the wall...I think real pictures prove whether it was or it wasn't, if someone can provide a real picture rather than a water color or painting it maybe more accurate.

Found more pictures here:
http://www.trabel.com/waterloo/waterloo-hougoumont.htm

Cheers
WELLINGTON
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wellington I don,t think you,ll find any pictures going back that far because there was no photogrophy back in those days and by the time there was this section was no longer intact. Munch of the site has been changed over the years, look at the adition to the south gate also. That shed built onto the wall near the south gate was not there at the time off the battle and the chateau was burnt down in the battle. The place has changed munch over the years.
 
Obviously.....I realize there were no pictures then, pictures didn't come out until around 1840's....All I'm trying to point out is, if you could find pictures depicting the North wall as close to the date as possible then you may find better evidence than a drawing or water color of what existed at that time, whether a wall or building existed or didn't etc...or reminents of a wall or building etc.....


WELLINGTON
 
Ken Osen/H&A Studio said:
The simple watercolor you mention is one of three different ones painted by visitors to the site between late summer of 1815 to 1816. All three of these show the same details that support the reconstruction. This is also typical of enclosed NW European farm construction of the 17th and 18th centuries. The photos are some of the images that I mentioned, and there are several others including two different views of the surviving foundations to the well/dovecot that was also modeled for this catalog. The lower image you posted is the one that was used as reference for the Gibbs painting. If you notice in the first image that you posted (the top) there is a verticle line of rough masonary half way between the edge of the image and the gateway. This is the remains of the west end gable wall of the cow sheds. These were gone along with the cart sheds by the time the images were taken. I hope to be able to do the cow and cart sheds someday to complete the north wall running east. Then you would be at the garden/orchard walls which were modeled for this catalog.

Do you guys plan on doing any of the hedge walls from the north side? (Wasn,t the orchard wall on the north side after the cow shed all hedge and not brick?) I think these would sell well for other periods also. They could be used for WWII as hedge rows also and I,m sure they would work for other periods also. Maybe some apple trees which could also be used for other periods also.
You could do a battle for the hougomont woods with some nassau troops!:cool:
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Hi there! These are all good observtions...and yes all of the items you mentioned plus more are in development. The second half 2007 catalog will have some of the things mentioned, but we are trying to pace things so the collectors of any one range can invest in the collection with minimal stress. It is often hard to put our desire to 'do it all now' in check and limit the sets, but we are trying to be sensitive to what the retailers and collectors can afford in any one release.
As far as the models themselves...Please understand that my studio started out as a museum exhibit and design studio and slowly changed into a studio that primarily researchs, designs and creates prototypes for the historical miniature industry. My approach is a little different than others, including the logical approach to reconstructions in historic architecture and military uniforms and equipment. There are often limitations to scale designs that I must take into consideration, like the size of the earthworks for the Yorktown series, but even here I tried to be balanced and referred to reprints of period accounts and military works.
A better example might be the U.S. Parrot gun in the Britains range. I was able to examine, photograph and measure a surviving gun and carraige, and also used full scale copies of arsenal drawings from the period. I can also state that I have live fired this style gun and several other models over the years. Will other model guns in this scale be better... with confidence I can say, probably not.
Was the gable end of the cart shed at the Hougoumont complex exactly like I reconstructed it...we will probably never know, but it is based on good evidence and common practice in the region preceeding the battle that took place there in 1815. I hope this helps. Please know that I am one of the 'hands on' guys at Britains and I will always try to address your concernes and questions. Ken Osen/Hudson & Alllen Studio
 
Ken Osen/H&A Studio said:
Hi there! These are all good observtions...and yes all of the items you mentioned plus more are in development. The second half 2007 catalog will have some of the things mentioned, but we are trying to pace things so the collectors of any one range can invest in the collection with minimal stress. It is often hard to put our desire to 'do it all now' in check and limit the sets, but we are trying to be sensitive to what the retailers and collectors can afford in any one release.
As far as the models themselves...Please understand that my studio started out as a museum exhibit and design studio and slowly changed into a studio that primarily researchs, designs and creates prototypes for the historical miniature industry. My approach is a little different than others, including the logical approach to reconstructions in historic architecture and military uniforms and equipment. There are often limitations to scale designs that I must take into consideration, like the size of the earthworks for the Yorktown series, but even here I tried to be balanced and referred to reprints of period accounts and military works.
A better example might be the U.S. Parrot gun in the Britains range. I was able to examine, photograph and measure a surviving gun and carraige, and also used full scale copies of arsenal drawings from the period. I can also state that I have live fired this style gun and several other models over the years. Will other model guns in this scale be better... with confidence I can say, probably not.
Was the gable end of the cart shed at the Hougoumont complex exactly like I reconstructed it...we will probably never know, but it is based on good evidence and common practice in the region preceeding the battle that took place there in 1815. I hope this helps. Please know that I am one of the 'hands on' guys at Britains and I will always try to address your concernes and questions. Ken Osen/Hudson & Alllen Studio
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Ken thanks for taking the time to let us know whats going on and giving us some great historicly accurate figures and scenic pieces keep up the good work.
 
Ken...you have made the wall as close as you can get it based on the information available...it is EXCELLENT...as was your first wall which I have in my collection and love it. Both are well worth the money and I plan on buying all your buildings, as far as I'm concerned they are the BEST on the market....Britains has been the only company corageous enough to build so many diarama pieces and I love them all......:) I also love the Nelson series which I also have.


WELLINGTON
 
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