New Chasseurs mix-up (1 Viewer)

[Dragoon]

It looks like the photo being used for the new Chasseur trooper NA92 is actually the image of the sergeant NA95. Two chevrons can be seen on the cuff of his dolman sleeve. If the chevrons are aurore ( orange-yellow ) he is a brigadier ( corporal ), if gold, he is a marechal-des-logis-chef ( sergeant-major). These same chevrons should also be present on the pelisse, the jacket draped on his shoulder. The figure shown for NA95 as the Chasseur sergeant seems to have no rank markings of any kind.

If the photos are mixed, as they appear to be, what figure do we get when ordering NA92. This could be important for someone putting together a troop of Chasseurs and ending up with alot of Sergeants and one trooper to oversee them.

 

[Peter Reuss]

I just pulled a couple from their boxes, and the images are correct.

NA92:

NA95:

 

[Dragoon]

Thanks Pete, thats good to know. The only PROBLEM then is that K&C is selling a figure of Chasseur sergeant as a trooper, and a Chasseur trooper as a Sergeant.

 

[sceic2]

It that be true, and I don't doubt that it isn't, now is the time to make the correction, before they start issuing them.

 

[bricoleur]

I'm wondering if the colour of the pelisse of the trumpeter will be correct. I have the impression on the pictures that the trumpeter is wearing the same red pelisse as the other comrades. This colour should be "cramoisi", which is more pink as deep red. Has anyone experience with the trumpeter?
Eddy

 

[kilted vampire]

I just pulled a couple from their boxes, and the images are correct.

NA92:

NA95:

They are so pretty!

 

[OzDigger]

Hey it could be worse, what if they came out with US flags like the Airborne mix up

 

[fishead19690]

I'm wondering if the colour of the pelisse of the trumpeter will be correct. I have the impression on the pictures that the trumpeter is wearing the same red pelisse as the other comrades. This colour should be "cramoisi", which is more pink as deep red. Has anyone experience with the trumpeter?
Eddy

As far as I know the color of the trumpters pelisse should be crimson in color like the rest of the troops. What is the source of your info for the color cramoisi?

 

[aujj65]

Here are a couple of trumpeters, both with a crimson pelisse.
Regards
Jeff.

 

[Dragoon]

The trumpeter's pelisse was a different color than that worn by the rest of the Chasseurs as Bricoleur has stated in his post. While the pelisses of the troopers were an orange-red, those worn by the trumpeters were closer to a light Polish Crimson. This would also be the color of the trumpeter horse's schabraque for parade dress. An excellent reference on this subject is "Napoleon's Elite Cavalry-Cavalry of the Imperial Guard-The Paintings of Lucien Rousselot" with text by Edward Ryan.

It's hard to tell by the photos if the K&C trumpeter's pelisse is a different color than the rest of the troops. But it does look a little too dark as compared to the illustrations by Rousselot.

 

[bricoleur]

The trumpeter's pelisse was a different color than that worn by the rest of the Chasseurs as Bricoleur has stated in his post. While the pelisses of the troopers were an orange-red, those worn by the trumpeters were closer to a light Polish Crimson. This would also be the color of the trumpeter horse's schabraque for parade dress. An excellent reference on this subject is "Napoleon's Elite Cavalry-Cavalry of the Imperial Guard-The Paintings of Lucien Rousselot" with text by Edward Ryan.

It's hard to tell by the photos if the K&C trumpeter's pelisse is a different color than the rest of the troops. But it does look a little too dark as compared to the illustrations by Rousselot.

You have 100% right, Dragoon.
I have the complete collection: "Planches de Lucien Rousselot de l'Armée Française". Rousselot was the official French army painter, specialised in the Napoleonic period and member of the society " la Sabretache". Don't argue with those guys about French Uniforms! Almost all the other authors are refering to Lucien Rousselot. Planche N° 83 illustrates the trumpeters of the Chasseurs à cheval. The pelisses and saddle clothing (shabraque) is indeed crimson (pink/cramoisie) and not the red of the troops!!

I also quote Brassey's, History of Uniforms: Napoleonic Wars; Napoleon's Army: page 22:

" Trumpeters: sky blue dolman with crimson collar and cuffs, gold and crimson cords; brass buttons, crimson pelisse with sky blue and gold cords...."
Troops: "green dolman with green collar, RED cuffs, orange cords; brass buttons, RED pelisse with orange cords...."
It's the same crimson as we find back on the polish lancers, the Chevau-légers de Berg ,...

It surprises me that Andy should not has been aware about the correct uniforms. In collector nr. 14 'Summer 2006) a picture of Lucien Rousselot is printed about the Chasseurs à Cheval. This picture is a part of plate nr. 3 of the book: "Napoleon's Elite cavalry" (Ryan) . In the same book, plate 6 and 14 are very clear about the colourdifference.

I only can conclude that Andy finds this slight colourdifference not important enough for his toysoldiers but I'm gonna repaint my trumpeter in the correct colours! I believe the real Napoleonlovers are not satisfied with this lack of detail as the beauty of all the trumpeters of the guard cavalry was made by such colourcombination: skyblue and pink/crimson.
By the way: same remark for the dragoon trumpeter: the blue of NA043 and CF007 is not the correct skyblue for those trumpeters!

Nevertheless the figures are beautifull.
Eddy
Eddy

 

[Peter Reuss]

Hi all - I just heard from K&C, and you boys are correct! NA92 and NA95 had the titles and descriptions switched! The images were correct, but NA95 is the trooper and NA92 is the sergeant.

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