New Leuthen Structure (1 Viewer)

[BHogan]

Have you guys seens this yet it looks great!
http://www.toysoldiersclub.com/Toy-soldiers_LEUTZ-10_.aspx

 

[Obee]

Yes,

the images of the 3 pieces have already been posted in another thread in the Forum.

Check out about 3 other images there.

So far we haven't seen the painted versions, but John emailed me a couple of weeks back saying the masters were done, so thats very promising.

John

 

[BHogan]

Yes,

the images of the 3 pieces have already been posted in another thread in the Forum.

Check out about 3 other images there.

So far we haven't seen the painted versions, but John emailed me a couple of weeks back saying the masters were done, so thats very promising.

John

Thanks John I totally missed the pictures of the building in the show thread!
Brendan

 

[King's Man]

Thank you for posting this link. The picture on this link shows at a higher photo resolution when you click on it.

Does anyone know if the parts will be sold separately or only as one set?

King’s Man

 

[Larry Allen]

Thank you for posting this link. The picture on this link shows at a higher photo resolution when you click on it.

Does anyone know if the parts will be sold separately or only as one set?

King’s Man

I would hope separately.
I am not "yet" into this series but I can see multipe uses of the two end pieces. Plus I would think with multiple pieces you could arrange and re-arrange to suit any scene. AND ... cheeper at a time. --- Larry

 

[theBaron]

...Does anyone know if the parts will be sold separately or only as one set?

King’s Man

I would hope separately.
I am not "yet" into this series but I can see multipe uses of the two end pieces. Plus I would think with multiple pieces you could arrange and re-arrange to suit any scene. AND ... cheeper at a time. --- Larry

For me, I could see that I'd like to have either option. Larry has a point about the one-time cost, if we have to buy all of them. But I could see buying individual sections, because each one is sufficient to put together a single scene based on the Röchling paintings.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Old Bill]

Has anyone noticed?
I was browsing through the Osprey Campain book: Rossbach and Leuthen 1757 ( by Simon Millar ) today. on page 58 is an illustration
of a reconstruction of the Leuthen Chuch yard and walls. It has occured to me that if you buy the gate piece, 4 corner sections and multiples
of the straight walls you will actually be able to make up the entire walled perimeter of the Church yard! What a superb diorama that is going to be!!
All we would need then would be the Church
Cheers!
Roy.

 

[Obee]

I've been checking the location of the Battle of Leuthen, a

nd now realise that Leuthen was the Germanic name and its now in Poland and called Lutynia.

There is no GOOGLE StreetView in the town, BUT there have been images posted on Panoramio of the church!

Its still standing as is the walls, and the 4 corner towers (see Google Maps Satellite)
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=51.1....002057&t=h&sensor=false&mapclient=jsapi&z=19

but a building has been built on the east, next to the gate.

Also there is a new a spire on the church, not evident in paintings of the battle.

Check the imagery out here http://www.panoramio.com/photo/48648320

VERY INTERESTING !!

Maybe someone could make/compose a background for the walls to be used in a diroama??

John

 

[Ken & Ericka Osen/H&A Studio]

I recall seeing a huge diorama of Leuthan done with 30mm flats at the Zinnfiguren Museum at Plassenburg Castle in Kulmbach Germany. All of the buildings and scenery were well detailed and in full round. I would love to see some images of it now as I didn't take any pictures when I was there last.
Ken

 

[Old Bill]

I recall seeing a huge diorama of Leuthan done with 30mm flats at the Zinnfiguren Museum at Plassenburg Castle in Kulmbach Germany. All of the buildings and scenery were well detailed and in full round. I would love to see some images of it now as I didn't take any pictures when I was there last.
Ken

Hi, the diorama was memntioned in the Osprey book I was looking through - in fact I think the "illustration" was a photo of the structure from the museum.
There may have been another photo as well. I don't actually own the book, does anyone else have it- and could give further details?
Roy.

 

[kogu]

Hi Roy,
I do have the Osprey book and I can make a photo of the diorama image and post it here this afternoon.
The diorama depicted is most likely the one that Ken mentions, but I will make sure later today.
Konrad

 

[Gebhard]

I recall seeing a huge diorama of Leuthan done with 30mm flats at the Zinnfiguren Museum at Plassenburg Castle in Kulmbach Germany. All of the buildings and scenery were well detailed and in full round. I would love to see some images of it now as I didn't take any pictures when I was there last.
Ken

Hi Ken ,
Here are a few shots i found from last years visit to Ingolstadt , I have some shots from Kulmbach as well but will have to find them , and i will post them later this week . Both are very well done IMO and well worth a visit , if ever in my beloved Germany :wink2: . I think the idea of JJ for recreating the wonderful painting by Röchling is a great idea , I will be buying this structure for sure ^&grin sorry for the quality of my photo's , can you imagine trying to do something this size in 54mm or so ..Regards Gebhard

 

[theBaron]

Bear in mind that the battlefield is actually a couple of miles long.

The Austrian army, having just taken Breslau, proceeded to the west to meet Frederick's army, advancing eastward after the victory at Rossbach. The Austrian commander, Prince Charles of Lorraine, took up a position centered on the village of Leuthen, with his lines extending to the north and to the south.

Frederick's approach took his army to a position due west or slightly above due west of the Austrian center. At that point, he sent a small detachment towards the Austrians as a feint, taking the rest of his army south, parallel to the Austrian lines, and screened from view by a series of low hills. At a point slightly south of the end of the Austrian lines, he implemented his Oblique order, sending the army in succeeding echelons against the Austrian left (ie, the end of their lines). The end of the Austrian lines included several units of Imperial troops, Wuerttembergers, who gradually gave way and the Austrian line slowly crumbled back on the center. Austrian cavalry charged the Prussians but were counter-charged and driven back. Eventually, when they had realized the true focus of the Prussian attack, the Austrian line had reformed, still centered more or less on Leuthen, but now rotated 90 degrees and oriented from west to east. It is at this point that the assault on the village began, including storming the churchyard. The two field battalions of Frederick's Garde and the Grenadier-Garde led the assault, against fierce Austrian opposition. Eventually the remainder of the refused Prussian battalions were sent to support the assault, and the Austrians were driven out of the village by mid-afternoon. The Austrian cavalry tried another charge to drive the Prussians back, but were again counter-charged. The Austrian infantry formed another line north of Leuthen and tried to halt the Prussian advacne, but were driven back yet again The Prussians pursued the Austrians northeast of Leuthen, halting at the village of Lissa a couple of miles away. The Austrians fell back on Breslau, and eventually the defeat caused them to retreat from Silesia back into Bohemia.

Austrian losses were about 6500 killed and 21,500 captured, of an army of 70,000. The Prussians lost 1100 of about 28,000. The battle is considered the best example of the application of the Oblique order.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Bayern]

Bear in mind that the battlefield is actually a couple of miles long.

The Austrian army, having just taken Breslau, proceeded to the west to meet Frederick's army, advancing eastward after the victory at Rossbach. The Austrian commander, Prince Charles of Lorraine, took up a position centered on the village of Leuthen, with his lines extending to the north and to the south.

Frederick's approach took his army to a position due west or slightly above due west of the Austrian center. At that point, he sent a small detachment towards the Austrians as a feint, taking the rest of his army south, parallel to the Austrian lines, and screened from view by a series of low hills. At a point slightly south of the end of the Austrian lines, he implemented his Oblique order, sending the army in succeeding echelons against the Austrian left (ie, the end of their lines). The end of the Austrian lines included several units of Imperial troops, Wuerttembergers, who gradually gave way and the Austrian line slowly crumbled back on the center. Austrian cavalry charged the Prussians but were counter-charged and driven back. Eventually, when they had realized the true focus of the Prussian attack, the Austrian line had reformed, still centered more or less on Leuthen, but now rotated 90 degrees and oriented from west to east. It is at this point that the assault on the village began, including storming the churchyard. The two field battalions of Frederick's Garde and the Grenadier-Garde led the assault, against fierce Austrian opposition. Eventually the remainder of the refused Prussian battalions were sent to support the assault, and the Austrians were driven out of the village by mid-afternoon. The Austrian cavalry tried another charge to drive the Prussians back, but were again counter-charged. The Austrian infantry formed another line north of Leuthen and tried to halt the Prussian advacne, but were driven back yet again The Prussians pursued the Austrians northeast of Leuthen, halting at the village of Lissa a couple of miles away. The Austrians fell back on Breslau, and eventually the defeat caused them to retreat from Silesia back into Bohemia.

Austrian losses were about 6500 killed and 21,500 captured, of an army of 70,000. The Prussians lost 1100 of about 28,000. The battle is considered the best example of the application of the Oblique order.

Prost!
Brad

Very nice post of one of my favorite historical pieces.

Ludwig

 

[Maj. Duncan Heyward]

Great thread guys!
Love the concept of this by John, and keen to learn the history too!
I'd like to contribute this from a bit of google searching,
oh the horror, the've spoiled it with some ceramic tiles by the look of it, but the structure can be seen as the painting.
I think I'd have preferred a crumbling natural look....



and this from a wargamers blog;
http://altefritz.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/leuthen-wargame.html

 

[Maj. Duncan Heyward]

Ok and one more... from the West Point Museum
i think this, whilst modelled rather well, shows how much more exciting John's series is going to be, with the action packed poses, inspired by the painting. I can't wait for more!

 

[kogu]

This is one nice thread.
All the pictures are most interesting.
Here is a pic from the Osprey Campaign book "Rossbach and Leuthen 1757".
The diorama shown is the one that Ken Osen mentioned, the one displayed in the "Deutsches Zinnfigurenmuseum" in the Plassenburg, Kulmbach, Germany.
Konrad

 

[Gebhard]

This is one nice thread.
All the pictures are most interesting.
Here is a pic from the Osprey Campaign book "Rossbach and Leuthen 1757".
The diorama shown is the one that Ken Osen mentioned, the one displayed in the "Deutsches Zinnfigurenmuseum" in the Plassenburg, Kulmbach, Germany.
Konrad

Nice shot Konrad {bravo}} did you take it ? Plassenburg is a wonderful place , the FdG Army Museum is also a real must see . Alles gute Gebhard

 

[kogu]

No Gebhard,
I did not take this picture actually at the Plassenburg in Kulmbach.
It's a photo I took from the page of the Osprey book and then cropped it for posting.
Kulmbach is on my "wanted to see" list though on one of my future travels to Germany, preferably when the Miniature/Toy Soldier Show is going on, which is held every other year.
Konrad

 

[Old Bill]

This is one nice thread.
All the pictures are most interesting.
Here is a pic from the Osprey Campaign book "Rossbach and Leuthen 1757".
The diorama shown is the one that Ken Osen mentioned, the one displayed in the "Deutsches Zinnfigurenmuseum" in the Plassenburg, Kulmbach, Germany.
Konrad

Thank you for posting Konrad - that's the pic! You can really see from this how the Leuthen series can develop. It's going to be a BIG one!