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I got a look at many of the newer KC releases today for the first time. I assume many people will be doing the same in Chicago. The good news is that the much discussed track detail improvement seems to be a reality at long last. The FOB Stug and M12 are good examples. The Stug is my favorite of the recent releases, but I'm holding out for the AK version. The T34 is still my favorite of the year though. Keep that one in mind in Chicago. The bad news is that the Heydrich set is a real disappointment. Not only the wrong color, model and license plate (enough to keep me from buying it), but the car itself looks a bit cheap for $160. The interior is fine, but the exterior parts like the bumper, grille, and hubcaps look terrible. The WWI car is much superior at half the price. There also still seem to be plenty of the Sherman and Panzer Meyer limited editions available from dealers.

Also caught a gander at the new Black Hawk(?) Custer figures. I was a bit underwhelmed by the quality and poses, but if you are not too picky and a big custer fan those might be worth picking up. Collector's showcase - whew. Hopefully their upcoming releases will improve. NMA was on sale - so not sure how those are moving. They are a good low priced alternative to KC at the sacrifice of some quality. My beloved John Jenkins figures are looking great - anyone looking for a new line should consider them.
 
Combat
What Collectors Showcase are you taliking about? The old stuff or the new AK and Civil War stuff. I am relcutant to buy any until I hear some honest reports on it.
Regards
Damian Clarke
 
Combat
What Collectors Showcase are you taliking about? The old stuff or the new AK and Civil War stuff. I am relcutant to buy any until I hear some honest reports on it.
Regards
Damian Clarke

Old stuff.
 
The good news is that the much discussed track detail improvement seems to be a reality at long last. The FOB Stug and M12 are good examples. The Stug is my favorite of the recent releases, but I'm holding out for the AK version. The T34 is still my favorite of the year though.

Just curious and this isn't to call you out as I have heard these sentiments before on the KC "Tracks" but what seems to be the issue with "Track" detail-

I guess let me first make sure we are speaking the same language- a "track" to me is any vehicle that isn't wheeled- are you talking armored tracks like Panthers, tiger and the rest of the cats or are you including those vehicles as well as the Hummel,Panzer Lehr SPG, etc??

Then, what is it about the "Tracks" that you don't particularly like detailwise- roadwheels, track pads, track shoes, dirty or cleanliness?? I got the second Panther in the set- I have both now- WS23 and 79 and I think they look pretty good to me.

Thanks,
CC
 
Boy - Am I glad you brought this up !

Let me start by saying....:eek:.........:eek:........;)
 
Uh oh!! :D:D

Ok gang- sorry if I am missing something here- wasn't trying to stir up the pot. I was just curious- please understand I am coming from Army "jargon" where "track" can mean something completely different- I was just trying to understand what Combat was saying. A "track" is essentially any vehicle on "tracks" -which is what I believe Combat was getting at-the tracks of the vehicle- guess I just got caught up in the minutia of it. I spent the bulk of my army time in mechanized infantry units so when I hear the word "track" it conjures up images of 113's and the like (tracked APCs).

Trust me, I wasn't trying to be difficult or picky. The way I have been reading comments about KC's "Track detail" to me, comes off as if there is something wrong with the tank itself- which could cover more than just the tracks of the vehicle (ie main gun, armor, etc).

Please just understand for me it was a semantics issue- nothing more. Combat, all apologies bud, I certainly didn't mean to come off the wrong way.

STANDS ALONE!!
CC
 
Uh oh!! :D:D


Please just understand for me it was a semantics issue- nothing more. Combat, all apologies bud, I certainly didn't mean to come off the wrong way.

STANDS ALONE!!
CC

Just lots of gunk in the wheels/tracks of the KC vehicles. I think they passed it off as mud or vegetation, but it was a sloppy by-product of the manufacturing process. The summer Panther and King Tiger are great examples if you have them. Compare them to the new Stug or T34 which are clean and well defined around the wheels like a die cast model. An improvement in response to the competition from HB.
 
Chris,

Doug was talking about non-wheeled vehicles, i.e. tanks. At any rate, this issue was debated constantly for a long time, particularly when Honour Bound came out with tracks that you could see through. Andy has followed suit so it is now a dead issue. However, if you do a search you will be able to find out what the debate was all about.
 
Chris,

There's no need to apologize at all. It's a natural question.

Regards,
 
Chris,

Doug was talking about non-wheeled vehicles, i.e. tanks. At any rate, this issue was debated constantly for a long time, particularly when Honour Bound came out with tracks that you could see through. Andy has followed suit so it is now a dead issue. However, if you do a search you will be able to find out what the debate was all about.

Brad-
Tanks have wheels. ;)
 
Hi Guys,

Just a wee note of correction to my pal “Combat”...Re the “tracks” issue. The “lots of gunk” in the wheels and tracks of earlier K&C models was not a “sloppy by-product of the manufacturing process”. It was a deliberate result of the original design in order to ensure extra strength in certain key areas...especially tracks and wheels wells. For the record it was K&C who introduced polystone vehicles and tanks into the market and continually sought to improve and develop the quality and variety of fighting vehicles for collectors. Involved in this whole process was lots of trial and error. Over the years, I like to think, we’ve constantly improved ourselves and learnt from other companies too. But let’s not forget that these other companies also learned a lot of very valuable lessons from K&C. All in all it’s been a great learning curve for all of us...gunk...mud...vegetation...and anything else that sticks to a tank’s tracks.

Love ‘n’ kisses to everyone and see ya in Chicago!

Andy C.
 
Love ‘n’ kisses to everyone and see ya in Chicago!

Boy that is something you do not read a lot around here;)
 
Hi Guys,

Just a wee note of correction to my pal “Combat”...Re the “tracks” issue. The “lots of gunk” in the wheels and tracks of earlier K&C models was not a “sloppy by-product of the manufacturing process”. It was a deliberate result of the original design in order to ensure extra strength in certain key areas...especially tracks and wheels wells. For the record it was K&C who introduced polystone vehicles and tanks into the market and continually sought to improve and develop the quality and variety of fighting vehicles for collectors. Involved in this whole process was lots of trial and error. Over the years, I like to think, we’ve constantly improved ourselves and learnt from other companies too. But let’s not forget that these other companies also learned a lot of very valuable lessons from K&C. All in all it’s been a great learning curve for all of us...gunk...mud...vegetation...and anything else that sticks to a tank’s tracks.

Love ‘n’ kisses to everyone and see ya in Chicago!

Andy C.

You know I have read much of the discussion about the mud modeled in the tracks and roadwheels over the years and I would like to make a comment in its defence. I have watched a fair number of restored WWII tracked vehicles operate in wet or soft ground over the years and I think that the muck, gunk and vegetation not only looks realistic, but often could be even heavier than it is depicted. I understand that not everyone likes that look but in some cases, like the vehicles with winter camo...it looks good!
 

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