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I'm actually surprised they are that price. The way the pricing pattern has been going I figured 74.95 to 79.95 for some of new series.

Actually, Matt has been very transparent in how he prices. Since these troopers do not have complex paint schemes like the Persians and a few other lines recently they will be standard price. I think if you look at FL prices they are pretty standardized to the complexity of the paint scheme.
 
Actually, Matt has been very transparent in how he prices. Since these troopers do not have complex paint schemes like the Persians and a few other lines recently they will be standard price. I think if you look at FL prices they are pretty standardized to the complexity of the paint scheme.

Not meant as a negative. Just expected higher prices for higher quality.
 
I have their Vietnam range, which soldier's carry very little gear and not much complexity in the color of their uniforms, yet they're priced $5.00 more than their other ranges. I never understood that, but it stopped me from continuing collecting this range after the first nine releases.
 
Their Armour has been the same price since the start I believe. Love the Armour, the Napoleonic, mostly of the WWII pieces, just these pieces I am second thoughts about, the New releases with Marshal Ney is in my want list.
 
While I don't want to (and won't!) get into too deep a discussion about pricing, suffice it to say that painting complexity is only part of it (granted a big part). Different figures are produced at different places at different cost levels, so that is also a factor. Some figures are painted better than others, which is yet another factor. The Vietnam are an excellent example of this - the painting is very good on the first sets and superb on the latest 4 sets. So how good the original master is and how accurately it's replicated is another factor and some masters are better painted than others and thus more expensive to produce because the painting is better (not necessarily more complex, just better). At the end of the day, pricing is a factor of cost, plain and simple, which in turn is typically a factor of labor rates as everything is hand made of course. Wages go up, expenses go up, prices go up. It's just a reality these days though we do try to absorb as much of it as we can.

Interestingly enough, some figures (particularly those that are most expensive!) are priced much lower than they should be. So the Retreat from Russia figures and recent Persians cost us nearly 33%-50% more to produce than our average figures, but aren't 33%+ more expensive. So in many cases our best figures which are usually the most expensive figures are often the least profitable for us and the best value for you! The best example of this is probably the long sold out Samurai archer. It was an $80 figure about 5 years ago when we were selling $50 figures and was the first one to sell out.

In the end, for the quality of sculpting and painting that we provide, I believe our pricing is incredibly reasonable.

Best,

Matt
 
I think that the samurai archer is the all time FL best figure and I have one in my collection and will never sell it !


While I don't want to (and won't!) get into too deep a discussion about pricing, suffice it to say that painting complexity is only part of it (granted a big part). Different figures are produced at different places at different cost levels, so that is also a factor. Some figures are painted better than others, which is yet another factor. The Vietnam are an excellent example of this - the painting is very good on the first sets and superb on the latest 4 sets. So how good the original master is and how accurately it's replicated is another factor and some masters are better painted than others and thus more expensive to produce because the painting is better (not necessarily more complex, just better). At the end of the day, pricing is a factor of cost, plain and simple, which in turn is typically a factor of labor rates as everything is hand made of course. Wages go up, expenses go up, prices go up. It's just a reality these days though we do try to absorb as much of it as we can.

Interestingly enough, some figures (particularly those that are most expensive!) are priced much lower than they should be. So the Retreat from Russia figures and recent Persians cost us nearly 33%-50% more to produce than our average figures, but aren't 33%+ more expensive. So in many cases our best figures which are usually the most expensive figures are often the least profitable for us and the best value for you! The best example of this is probably the long sold out Samurai archer. It was an $80 figure about 5 years ago when we were selling $50 figures and was the first one to sell out.

In the end, for the quality of sculpting and painting that we provide, I believe our pricing is incredibly reasonable.

Best,

Matt
 
I think that the samurai archer is the all time FL best figure and I have one in my collection and will never sell it !

Hi Alex,

Great minds must think alike, I don't even collect the Samurai line but knew that figure was just too good to miss. I would trade it for a fully restored Zundapp KS750 if there are any takers :wink2:
 
Ah,let's have some fun and stir up the old $60.00/figure flame At least two poses here can NEVER
be used in the Pacific,The medic (usually an unarmed conscientious objector in Europe) would be shot full of holes
with all that 'Kill me Jap' white bands and red 'aiming'crosses all over his upper extemities.Medics/Corpsmen
carried Colts and later M1 Carbines to maybe prolong their (and their patient's)lives,and
the Company Commander a quick KIA with those silver bars on the front of his skull cover.
The BAR guy is an FNG as his weapon's bipod is still attached.
Bazooka fella humping an M1 Garand as well?Hell,he has enough worries.A Colt .45 was an issue item.
And Hollywood Joe pulling a grenade pin with his pearly whites;if he did not previously bend that pin nigh
on straight(very risky business at that)he would be a perfect fit for an Appalachian family photo shoot.
Mind you ,I do like and used to own many 1st Legion figures however......
 
Ah,let's have some fun and stir up the old $60.00/figure flame At least two poses here can NEVER
be used in the Pacific,The medic (usually an unarmed conscientious objector in Europe) would be shot full of holes
with all that 'Kill me Jap' white bands and red 'aiming'crosses all over his upper extemities.Medics/Corpsmen
carried Colts and later M1 Carbines to maybe prolong their (and their patient's)lives,and
the Company Commander a quick KIA with those silver bars on the front of his skull cover.
The BAR guy is an FNG as his weapon's bipod is still attached.
Bazooka fella humping an M1 Garand as well?Hell,he has enough worries.A Colt .45 was an issue item.
And Hollywood Joe pulling a grenade pin with his pearly whites;if he did not previously bend that pin nigh
on straight(very risky business at that)he would be a perfect fit for an Appalachian family photo shoot.
Mind you ,I do like and used to own many 1st Legion figures however......

Oh,oh, no self- respecting Pacific War grunt carried less than 2 canteens(1 would suffice in Europe as
fresh and abundant water was usually available).Fini
 
I would think after 1-fire fight, a soldier would practically drink his whole canteen.
 
here's a photo from the London show with the new U.S. infantry mixed with some Paras, and in my opinion they look spot on!! the color of the uniforms, weapons, belts, back packs all look to be done in great detail, also having a beautiful diorama from TM Terrain doesn't hurt either :)...Sammy



 
Who sells all the bombed out buildings..???.....Are those FL products?...... They have excllent detail.
 
I had some of the same concerns with the poses (pulling grenade pin with one's teeth -- I tried that once with a practice grenade and the pin straightened -- never again). Also, carbine bayonet mounts didn't show up until very late in the war -- the only photo I have seen of one in use in WWII was on Okinawa.

My biggest concern is with some of the uniforms -- the use of the M1943 field jacket (the hip length green jacket with 4 patch pockets -- it was the starting point for US field jackets through the 80s). These didn't show up in the ETO until September 44 (they were issued earlier in Italy) and were issued as a set with the matching field pants and double buckle combat boots. While the 41 (windbreaker-style) jacket stayed in service until the end of the war, and would be seen being worn with the later boots, the combination of 1943 jacket with OD wool pants and field shoes with leggings was rare to almost non-existent. Leggings were not liked at all and the opportunity to replace them with combat boots was jumped at.

If these are supposed to be D-Day troops, then the M1943 jackets are inappropriate. If used for later in the war, then a much more representative figure would have the complete M1943 uniform with the combat boots.
 
Hi all, wondering if anyone has picked up any of the new U.S. infantry sets??...Sammy
 
Great looking photo and layout Joe, well done.................
 
Got them all yesterday Sammy. Im very pleased with them.



Thanks Joe, they look outstanding!!!!!!! as well as your photo and layout, thanks for posting and looking forward to picking these fellows up in due time...Sammy
 
Thanks for the comments guys. Always love tinkering around with new arrivals. Thanks for getting them out to me super fast George.
 

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