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peter8213

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I've noticed that there has been some very strong bidding on ebay the past month or so on K&C SOHK. I am often in the think of things when I bid, but of late, I have not even been close. Some of the early paper mache K&C buildings were also strong.

I noticed two early HK figures of coolies carrying trunks brought in exceptionally high prices. I was blown away on the final price on a couple of meter maids/policewomen.

I assume there are some new buyers in the market. The glossy HK figures for the most part are stunning and have always been a favorite of mine.

Peter
 
I noticed you were in the thick of things on the policewomen auction :wink2:

Brad
 
I noticed you were in the thick of things on the policewomen auction :wink2:

Brad

Brad

I sniped a bid that hit ebay, but in the end, I was not even close on the two policewomen or most of the offerings that night.

I was able to pick-up a building. The two coolies with the steamer trunks on their backs, I've never seen those offered in auction in the last 3 years. I think I was off on my bid by well over $150.00. The Noon Day Gun from a couple of weeks ago went for a large number and that did not include the figures with the flag. I was asleep at the wheel on that one (and a bunch of others that ended that night) - I would have bid strongly, but I would never had placed the winning bid on it. But I think that it was still a fair (and strong) price for it. The Noon Day Gun set has also never been offered in the past 3 or so years in an auction setting.

Peter
 
Peter,

I was watching that auction but had to go to a meeting and when I came out with a couple of minutes to go saw it had hit the stratosphere.

There are definitely some nice SOHK on eBay right now.

Regards,

Brad
 
The Hong Kong Modern police were some great sets. I have the complete set, including the wood Land Rover (one of the first, it not the first, wooden vehicle in regular production from King & Country) and the Riot Police. You may not know this, but Andy Neilson was himself a Hong Kong Police Inspector at one point. Here are some quotes from the original text of the book about these sets:

By June, 1991 Andy had released a Napoleonic Waterloo Chess Set as well as four sets of modern (1980’s) Hong Kong Police. . . .

The modern Hong Kong Police sets included in the post-card catalogue under “Stop Press/New Releases”, indicating the sets would be available by the time the brochure was printed. The modern police included RHKP1, a ‘beat’ constable in summer uniform on patrol using his personal radio ($12), RHKP2, a dog handler & German Shepherd (later described as an Alsatian) in summer uniform ($17), RHKP3, two Police Tactical Unit ‘Blue Berets’ in summer uniform ($24), and RHKP4, King & Country’s first off-scale figure, a 90mm presentation figure of a ‘beat’ constable, available painted ($42) and, for the first time, unpainted ($25). The figures wore light green pants and short sleeve tunics, blue hats or berets with cap badges, black boots, belts, cross belts, holsters and pistol lanyards.

The November, 1993 Brochure also debuted King & Country’s personality figures, Elvis Presley (EP), Charlie Chaplin (CC) and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (SPB). This brochure also included the release of the Seaforth Highlanders Maxim Gun & Crew, and some additional modern Hong Kong Police, including a dismounted motorcycle cop and the Police Tactical Riot Force, in both riot helmets and black berets.

The two new modern Hong Kong Police sets, HKP4 ($62), a new dismounted motorcycle cop sold together with ‘beat’ constable using his personal radio a dog handler & dog and one Police Tactical Unit ‘Blue Beret’, and HKP5 ($81), the Police Tactical Riot Force, wearing the same uniforms, but available with either black riot helmets with silver face shields or black berets. The motorcycle cop wore a white motorcycle helmet, red and yellow striped vest over light green tunic and pants and black knee boots, and holds a radio in his right hand. The riot police come in three poses: The first standing holding a banner in two hands reading in both English and Chinese characters “Disperse or we fire” (in black on orange) on one side and “Warning tear smoke” (in white on black) on the other. The second stands holding a lathi club and shield. The third holds a shot gun angled down from the right shoulder across towards the left knee.

In 1994 the 6 "a day at the races" horses and jockeys commissioned by the Hong Kong Jockey's Club appeared, along with the Hong Kong Police wood Police Land Rover [Andy was a Hong Kong Police Inspector]), the Hong Kong Volunteer Regiment color party (Andy was a commissioned officer and the regiment's Adjutant), first mentioned in November, 1993, is first depicted in the Winter/Spring 1994 flyer, and Glossy Marching American Revolutionary War (N.Y. Regiment, U.S. Marines, and Two British Regiments).

This vehicle, the only civilian vehicle produced by K&C to date, was a well executed and accurate reproduction of the Land Rovers used by the Hong Kong constabulary in the 1980’s, but lacked a detailed undercarriage. The Land Rover was primarily navy blue, with a white top and silver painted windows, with front and rear license plates and the Hong Kong Police crest emblazoned on the front driver and passenger doors. Detail elements include windshield wipers, sideview mirrors, an antenna and police light on top. The number of these vehicles produced is unknown to the author, but almost certainly less than 50. The vehicle, designated HKP8, originally retailed for $128.

The “Remember the Alamo” figures appear in Spring, 1995, as did HK19 and two additional modern Hong Kong Police releases.

The new releases of “Asia’s Finest” included HKP6, two Hong Kong police officers in summer uniforms, absent their headgear, in actions poses, standing in the text book two-hand firing position for a pistol, and kneeling loading a shotgun, as well as HKP7, two female constables, wearing tan uniforms with skirts and blue hats, “taking notes” -- more likely writing tickets.
 
I was the first bidder on the coolies with trunks, but not the last : 0

I debated myself as to what I thought they would sell for or what I thought they were worth. I had a snipe in the 250 range and had some degree of confidence that I would win it them. I am not sure if my snipe ever hit ebay.

Sometimes when I have time, I review Sager's site and look through K&C SOHK early offerings. I had never noted those two coolies. When I saw them, I thought they were so, pardon the pun, cool looking. I can't imagine that there are more than a couple of dozen of these in collections.

Any thoughts on items such as the coolies. The Noon Day Gun also comes to mind. Production levels? Quantity sold? And there are more sets/figures that are fairly rare SOHK range. I am guessing that the vast majority of these figures that K&C sold in the early years ended up in the hands of people who never did or will never collect toy soldiers as a hobby.

And what happened to early K&C stock that was never sold? Was it destroyed? Was it all sold (I can't imagine that occurred)?

Peter
 
I debated myself as to what I thought they would sell for or what I thought they were worth. I had a snipe in the 250 range and had some degree of confidence that I would win it them. I am not sure if my snipe ever hit ebay.

Sometimes when I have time, I review Sager's site and look through K&C SOHK early offerings. I had never noted those two coolies. When I saw them, I thought they were so, pardon the pun, cool looking. I can't imagine that there are more than a couple of dozen of these in collections.

Any thoughts on items such as the coolies. The Noon Day Gun also comes to mind. Production levels? Quantity sold? And there are more sets/figures that are fairly rare SOHK range. I am guessing that the vast majority of these figures that K&C sold in the early years ended up in the hands of people who never did or will never collect toy soldiers as a hobby.

And what happened to early K&C stock that was never sold? Was it destroyed? Was it all sold (I can't imagine that occurred)?

Peter

Peter,
believe it or not, there is a lot more of this stuff out there than one would believe, it is just in collections. It will slowly appear over time and the price will stabilize, that is what has been observed over time. That said, there are certain items that are expensive - paper mache bldgs, although, there is always the luck that they appear at local shows for $25-50 each (yes that happened!).

As to these coolies, as I am a betting man, there are more out there than you think!

If you look in the archives, you will see where I posted very old K&C/King White samples I bought that never went into production and were the precursor to the K&C SOHK series. Even included a diorama scene!

Point being, patience yields a lot of this stuff over time

Tom

TD
 
Early K & C were not made in large numbers so my opinion is that they were all sold, rather than destroyed. That would go against the grain of Andy's nature. Moreover, SOHK is very popular in China so I'm sure that what was made was sold.
 

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