Oscars What A Joke (1 Viewer)

[Cardigan600]

Yo Troopers, what a joke the Oscar nominations are, they are totally bent. Watch the Hurt Locker a few weeks back thought it was a lousy movie, I mean it won the Oscar for best Movie (dont make me hiccup) Watched Avatar on DVD last night and man it was so far ahead of the Hurt Locker for entertainment it wasn't true. So seems they just give the Oscar to the people they want to, not the people that deserve it. What a joke.
Bernard.

 

[Warrior]

Yo Troopers, what a joke the Oscar nominations are, they are totally bent. Watch the Hurt Locker a few weeks back thought it was a lousy movie, I mean it won the Oscar for best Movie (dont make me hiccup) Watched Avatar on DVD last night and man it was so far ahead of the Hurt Locker for entertainment it wasn't true. So seems they just give the Oscar to the people they want to, not the people that deserve it. What a joke.
Bernard.

I gave up on Hollywood when they passed over SPR for best picture; if for nothing else, giving it the best picture award would have been a nice thing to do to honor all the veterans, but no, they managed to screw it up seven ways to Sunday.

They are clueless...............

 

[Scott]

Talk about holding a grudge from 1998! Considering one History movie got best picture and another war movie got best actor that year, look at what SPR got..

Directing Steven Spielberg, Saving Private Ryan

Cinematography Janusz Kaminski, Saving Private Ryan

Film Editing Michael Kahn, Saving Private Ryan

Is it all fair in YOUR industry's peer awards?

At lease good old Jame Coburn got a best supporting actor Oscar for playing a nasty old SOB.

 

[marco55]

I wasn't crazy about Hurt Locker myself and even though Avatar was beautiful to watch I thought the storyline was standard fare.
Mark

 

[Scott]

I wasn't crazy about Hurt Locker myself and even though Avatar was beautiful to watch I thought the storyline was standard fare.
Mark

Pocahontas

 

[Warrior]

Talk about holding a grudge from 1998! Considering one History movie got best picture and another war movie got best actor that year, look at what SPR got..

Directing Steven Spielberg, Saving Private Ryan

Cinematography Janusz Kaminski, Saving Private Ryan

Film Editing Michael Kahn, Saving Private Ryan

Is it all fair in YOUR industry's peer awards?

At lease good old Jame Coburn got a best supporting actor Oscar for playing a nasty old SOB.

You missed my point.

 

[Scott]

No I didn't.

We don't always get stuff we think we deserve. Even if it's patriotic. What movie has lasted since then and bears re-watching? We both know the answer.

 

[Warrior]

No I didn't.

We don't always get stuff we think we deserve. Even if it's patriotic. What movie has lasted since then and bears re-watching? We both know the answer.

Yes Scott, you did miss my point.

Hollywood had a chance to do the right thing.

They blew it.

If you win for best director, you should also win for best picture.

That is clear.

As in crystal.

 

[wayne556517]

Yes Scott, you did miss my point.

Hollywood had a chance to do the right thing.

They blew it.

If you win for best director, you should also win for best picture.

That is clear.

As in crystal.

George you reckon SPR was better than Shakespeare in Love............

Yeah your right mate they stuffed up big time but hey if it wasn,t for the girlies with there assets hanging out who watches past that bit............

 

[Warrior]

George you reckon SPR was better than Shakespeare in Love............

Just a tad bit better..........

 

[BLReed]

If you don't like the Oscar winners you can always go by the BAFTA
Awards. Oh no, another joke. Get real.

The Academy Awards are voted on by the membership "They are the more
than 6,000 artists and professionals who bring the magic of the movies to
life. They are the men and women who transport audiences to galaxies far
away and to worlds long ago and who create the previously unimagined for
the big screen. They are the entertainment industry’s preeminent filmmakers."

They are tooting their own horn and probably have a political message.
"Avatar" is owned by a subsiderary of the Rupert Murdock Media
conglomerate, which owns FOX News and the Wall Street Journal. Murdock
was on FOX News this afternoon saying that they exceeded projected
earning of $.23 per share for $.32 per share last quarter to a total of some
$3.7 billion. Of which $200 million was from "Avatar" profits. Also the
Wall Street Journal was the only newspaper showing a profit---25% increase
in advertising alone. That doesn't sit well. Then to top it off an unknown
[Worthington] was cast as Cameron didn't want to pay a multi-million dollar
salary. Part didn't call for strong acting anyway. I don't suppose that went
over well either.

I liked both "Hurt Locker" and "Avatar." Different forms of entertainment.
I'd hate to think that only my choices were in the offering. If that was
the case people would only get to see about five movies a year.

 

[lancer]

The only thing you can count on for the Oscars is that whatever is currently PC will be the thing that garners the attention and awards. I find the fact that a war movie won best picture astonishing. -- Al

 

[Scott]

Like I keep saying. The Oscars is an industry award ceremony that the public likes to watch. (How about your industry award night?) Hollywood is an American industry that succeeds on merit AND still exports product.

SPR has lasted longer as a notable film that has gone on inspire Band of Brothers and Pacific, and to make a market for Clint Eastwood's two Iwo Jima films.

Another factor is that a film is supposed to entertaining. Gandhi won best picture but people still watch E.T.

Try telling the average movie goer that watching a movie is good for him some how or it's his duty. That's like being dragged to Passion of The Christ or a guy taking his wife/girl friend to a "chick flick."

A far as the them of this forum goes, try telling someone that dismissed your soldier collection as "toys" about the effort that went into making the figures or the importance of what they represent.

Now I like SPR as much as the next history buff. But really, after the Omaha Beach scene, wasn't this just a standard adventure story, not based on a real event? The Sullivan Brothers had there own movie.

 

[kingtoot]

I saw Hurt locker and just last week I saw Avatar..Hurt Locker was a better human story..Avatar was Dancing With Wolves on acid..great computer animation

 

[Scott]

Dances with Wolfs! That's a better one than my Pocahontas comparison.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Like I keep saying. The Oscars is an industry award ceremony that the public likes to watch. (How about your industry award night?) Hollywood is an American industry that succeeds on merit AND still exports product.

SPR has lasted longer as a notable film that has gone on inspire Band of Brothers and Pacific, and to make a market for Clint Eastwood's two Iwo Jima films.

Another factor is that a film is supposed to entertaining. Gandhi won best picture but people still watch E.T.

Try telling the average movie goer that watching a movie is good for him some how or it's his duty. That's like being dragged to Passion of The Christ or a guy taking his wife/girl friend to a "chick flick."

A far as the them of this forum goes, try telling someone that dismissed your soldier collection as "toys" about the effort that went into making the figures or the importance of what they represent.

Now I like SPR as much as the next history buff. But really, after the Omaha Beach scene, wasn't this just a standard adventure story, not based on a real event? The Sullivan Brothers had there own movie.

As I keep saying, movies are for the people who watch them and due to the natural pressures of commercial viability, that means that the majority will come with compromises. No question some have more craft, some how more redeeming value and some have more entertainment value at different levels. Now when you start trying to decide which is best, it gets rather complicated. You see, they are a form of art and beauty is in the eye and all that.

Personally, I find a difference between those movies (and art) I appreciate and those I want to watch (at least more than once). I do appreciate SPR but I don't want to watch it often, especially the Beach scene. I also appreciate the craft and acting in SiL and though it is an heretical notion here, I still think it deserved the BP award. If nothing else, I do enjoy watching it more often. That said it was a close call and while SPR has much more of a following, the fact is they were both very good films that had different things to offer.

I am certainly not an uncritical fan of the Academy and often disagree with their choices, which all to often are political at some level. That said, I don't think it is fair to say that the failure of SPR to win BP was a slight in any way to those brave men who fought and died in the liberation of Europe. SPR is a very fine recognition of their efforts and I would always like it for that alone, even if it were not otherwise so well done. Of course my biggest reservation with SPR is the premise for the entire film since I find it incredible that the senior command would even contemplate sacrificing a squad to save one man, no matter how many brothers he had lost. Everyone in the squad had a mother too.

 

[Warrior]

As the picture faded away and the house lights came up the first time I saw SPR, I sat in my chair and felt like I had just gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson, I was spent, emotionally and physically, I was drained.

As I found the strength to get up and walk down the aisle, towards the front of the theater was a group of older gentlemen, some in wheelchairs, all wearing hats signifying they were VFW's from WWII, Korea, etc.

Not a single one of them had a dry eye, they too were overcome after what they had just seen, but for different reasons than myself.

My guess is some of them were on Omaha Beach or other such Hells on earth.

Why don't you ask any of those gentlemen which was the better movie, SPR of SIL Bill.

To me, the sign of an excellent movie is one that reaches out and grabs me, pulls me in for two hours, chews me up and spits me out.

SPR did just that to me; I can count on one hand the number of movies that had that sort of effect on me.

The Departed did that to me as well; I know you don't like Leo, so we'll leave it at that.

Best director in my eyes means he directed the best picture.

Like what you want to like, watch what you want to watch and have your own opinion of what rates as a great movie.

We agree to disagree and lets just leave it at that; comparing SPR to SIL is apples to hand grenades..................

 

[Scott]

It was 1998.....You might need this.....

 

[Warrior]

It was 1998.....You might need this.....

The topic of the thread is "Oscars What a joke"; what does the fact that the movie came out in 1998 have anything to do with it, I was expressing my opinion that yes, the Oscars are a joke, a farce in fact.

 

[Scott]

You're just going to have to take it up with 1998 Academy and tell them how to run their industry peer awards.