Our Addiction to Outlaws?? (1 Viewer)

[BLReed]

I do not think this is entirely true, but it is an interesting perspective. Especially if you are trying
to sell your book.

"On April 19, 1882, the Irish writer Oscar Wilde looked out of his hotel room window in St. Joseph, Missouri, at a large crowd of people gathered around a small house on a distant hilltop. “It is the house of the great train-robber and murderer, Jesse James, who was killed by his pal last week,” Wilde wrote to a friend, “and the people are relic hunters.”

Wilde marveled at the prices Jesse’s possessions brought at public auction. A chromolithographic print “of the most dreadful kind” that had hung in the outlaw’s home sold for a price that “in Europe only an authentic Titian can command, or an undoubted Mantegna.”

Jesse’s celebrity status, which far outshined Wilde’s, baffled the Irishman. “The Americans are certainly great hero-worshippers,” he observed, “and always take their heroes from the criminal classes.”
Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/08/05/our-odd-addiction-to-outlaws/?intcmp=features

 

[Scott]

"..What future, brooding hunks, I wonder, might eventually portray accused Boston Marathon bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a TV movie?

Will some governor, a hundred years from now, consider a posthumous pardon for Lee Harvey Oswald or Charles Manson?.."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...ion-to-outlaws/?intcmp=features#ixzz2bhzQa1wL

Not even close to Jesse James and Billy the Kid. What a lousy comparison. Consider the source.
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[BLReed]

..... Consider the source.

I always do.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/08/09/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-august-8-2013/196543/

 

[Combat]

I visited the Newseum this weekend in DC. They have a rogue's gallery of criminal artifacts. The straw hat and pistol carried by Dillinger on the night he was killed, the Unabomber's cabin, Oswald's shirt and jacket worn on the day of the assassination. It's fascinating stuff. Maybe even a little creepy when you consider a guy like Oswald probably decided to kill the President in no small part because he wanted people to come to a museum and remember him. I don't see any way around it though. It's history.

 

[Rutledge]

Consider the source.

I always do when you post.

 

[damian]

Well we all know what Oscar was partial to.

 

[BLReed]

Case in point...........Lee Harvey Oswald's coffin sells for $87,000 at auction.
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/17/lee-harvey-oswalds-coffin-sells-for-87-000-at-auction/

 

[Combat]

Weird story on Oswald's grave on CNN today and in the NY Times yesterday: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2013/08/12/exp-newday-nick-beef-plot-revealed.cnn

 

[Scott]

I always do.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/08/09/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-august-8-2013/196543/

A lot of folks like Honey Boo Boo and plain white bread.

 

[Scott]

I always do when you post.

Rut, do you even collect toy soldiers? ^&confuse

 

[BLReed]

A lot of folks like Honey Boo Boo and plain white bread.

Yes, but intellect isn't necessary for either Honey Boo Boo or white bread.

 

[BLReed]

Weird story on Oswald's grave on CNN today and in the NY Times yesterday: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2013/08/12/exp-newday-nick-beef-plot-revealed.cnn

Amazing. Saw that on Fox News two days ago.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/10/mystery-texas-grave-next-to-lee-harvey-oswald-solved/?test=latestnews

 

[Scott]

There's morbid interest or the "fun" of collecting stuff attached to assassinations. The Brick Testament LEGO artist is coming out with stories of American assassinations illustrated with LEGOs.

http://www.thebricktestament.com/latest_additions/

Sarah Vowell's book Assassination Vacation is a fun read.

Mr. "the Kid" and Jesse James, even Bonnie and Clyde have some folk hero elements of helping common people attached to their stories that the Marathon bombers don't have. Locally we don't see them as any kind of heroes because they destroyed the lives of people doing something good and positive. There may be some interest in the Manson clan but when ever they bring Manson out for parole or an interview, he's still crazy and hateful. The writer for FOX got this comparison waaaay off. Maybe the writer was setting up an anti-Holly Wood "Straw Man." I stay away from that source.:wink2:

 

[BLReed]

...... The writer for FOX got this comparison waaaay off. Maybe the writer was setting up an anti-Holly Wood "Straw Man." I stay away from that source.

He isn't a writer for FOX News per se. More like a guest opinion by an author flogging his latest book.

"Mark Lee Gardner is the author of "To Hell on a Fast Horse," about Billy the Kid and Sheriff Pat Garrett. His latest book is "Shot All To Hell, Jesse James, The Northfield Raid and the Wild West’s Greatest Escape" (William Morrow, August 1, 2013). He has written a broad range of books and articles focusing on the American West. He has also written a number of interpretive guides for the National Park Service on subjects ranging from George Custer to Geronimo. Gardner is also an award-winning musician who specializes in historic American folk music."

I only watch FOX News.:wink2:

 

[Jack]

There's morbid interest or the "fun" of collecting stuff attached to assassinations. The Brick Testament LEGO artist is coming out with stories of American assassinations illustrated with LEGOs.

Years ago I saw an interview with one of the long time executioners in the US and he took a reporter back to his home and showed off his collection. He had collected a wide range of items related to the executions he had conducted. He was a prolific collector and while I intend no comment on capital punishment, it was a bit creepy - almost like a murderer collecting items from his victims. Having said that I am not attempting to compare capital punishment to murder just responding to the issue raised about collecting material associated with events like this.

 

[Rutledge]

Rut, do you even collect toy soldiers? ^&confuse

Yes I collect metal ones. I understand you prefer plastic.

 

[Scott]

Yes I collect metal ones. I understand you prefer plastic.

I paint my own metal, going on 50 years now. A number of my painted pewter figures are in a ship model display at the Jamestown Festival Part. Ted Turner has a set of Zouaves I made for a PBS auction.

Plastic I play with. You should check out my posts sometime.

 

[GICOP]

I would love to check out this Museum, not that I am a fan of Jack the Ripper in any way shape or form.{eek3}

I believe at the moment only new Metropolitan Police recruits are shown around.

http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/k...an_Police_in_the_black__report_claims/?ref=mr

Cheers

Martyn

 

[Combat]

Yes, but intellect isn't necessary for either Honey Boo Boo or white bread.

I have to make the sad admission of sometimes watching Honey Boo Boo and enjoying it. Sugar Bear is a real hoot.

 

[BLReed]

I have to make the sad admission of sometimes watching Honey Boo Boo and enjoying it. Sugar Bear is a real hoot.

A worse admission is that I had to Google Honey Boo Boo. Never heard of the show. At first I thought
it was some sort of Hostess Ding Dong pastry. Not much for Reality TV.