Pacific - episode 4 (3 Viewers)
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marco55
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I liked this episode also.I have liked all the episodes.This episode makes the PTO seem worse than the ETO.With the climate,jungles,and the way the Japanese fought the mentral stress must have been almost unbearable.This series is as good as BOB just different and told in a different way.Two great series in my opinion.
Mark
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I absolutely agree with you Mark, and the soon to be invasions will be better than anything ever done.............Stryker
It's the details that get me..check out the worn out, moldy, shredded, bloody uniforms on the Marines in last night episode..that says it all..Like the Marine veteran in the beginning of the episode said, they wore the same clothes for three months straight..his shoes rotted off of his feet along with his toenails..they couldnt even drink the malaria-infested water..no sanitary conditions at all..no one recognizing white flags of surrender or Red Cross non-com medical insignia...At least in Europe, they were supplied and fed on a regular basis. There may be no beautiful German tanks to ooh and aww at, this is war at it's most brutal...just the shirt on your back and the weapon in your hands.
Good post. It is also a fact that this fight was against a fierce foe who viewed surrender, his own or his enemy, as a disgrace that voided the rules of honor and thus should be rewarded with death. -- Al
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I got home last night from the Red Sox/Yankees game around 1:00am (GREAT game; nice job Chan Ho Park, which in Korean must mean "meatball right down broadway" as that home run landed about ten feet from where I was sitting) and watched this episode as I had DVR'd it.
You guys must be watching a different series than I am; I fell asleep about halfway through it.
More night fighting, rain, rain and more rain, officers stealing from enlisted men, Marines strangling Japanese troops and laughing about it, guys in the nuthouse...............................sorry, this one was a non starter for me.
Thankfully, Sledge gets involved in the next episode as the landings on Pelelieu look spectacular; four down, six to go, three just on Pelelieu, one on Iwo, one on Okinawa, maybe two and that's all she wrote.
Please stop trying to compare this to BOB; it's apples to hand grenades............really.
You guys must be watching a different series than I am; I fell asleep about halfway through it.
More night fighting, rain, rain and more rain, officers stealing from enlisted men, Marines strangling Japanese troops and laughing about it, guys in the nuthouse...............................sorry, this one was a non starter for me.
Thankfully, Sledge gets involved in the next episode as the landings on Pelelieu look spectacular; four down, six to go, three just on Pelelieu, one on Iwo, one on Okinawa, maybe two and that's all she wrote.
Please stop trying to compare this to BOB; it's apples to hand grenades............really.
marco55
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George,
This may be boring to you but I have to disagree as all those things you mentioned rings true.These were just regular guys,very young guys at that, thrown into a nightmare and they didn't always act heroic or were able to cope with everything.
Mark
This may be boring to you but I have to disagree as all those things you mentioned rings true.These were just regular guys,very young guys at that, thrown into a nightmare and they didn't always act heroic or were able to cope with everything.
Mark
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I agree with george, I erased it as soon as it was over.
Certainly the conditions were terrible, but its hard to justify making a movie
about this character. I'm certain soldiers consider executing officers......but
do we really need to see it over a pistol?
Certainly the conditions were terrible, but its hard to justify making a movie
about this character. I'm certain soldiers consider executing officers......but
do we really need to see it over a pistol?
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I couldn't agree more. It showed how men will react when faced with impossible conditions. I think the things we saw (soldiers commiting suicide, soldiers killing potential POWs and soldiers discussing killing their superiors) took place and show war not to be the way it's generally portrayed in Hollywood myth.
Well said...That's what is at the heart of episode four, the impact on these young guys thrown into an inferno of death and destruction, hand to hand combat. I keep mentioning my dad's experiences on these threads but his was a first-hand account of this war. He said that he saw young men get so scared that their hair turned white in less than a week. The Thin Red Line showed Marines using pliers to pull out gold teeth from dead japanese. He mentioned that as well, and how the Marines would jump the Army guards taking jap prisoners for interrogation, knock them out and kill the japanese prisoner. Brutal stuff from my own father..but the truth as it happened..
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Yes but there were moral men around even in the worst of times, just as in
life. The picture we are being fed, of young marines would hardly seem
to make them a match for the japanese soldier. We know this was not the
case. I worked with and knew quite a few Veteran Marines from WWII and
an Army Ranger, they were hard as nails.
life. The picture we are being fed, of young marines would hardly seem
to make them a match for the japanese soldier. We know this was not the
case. I worked with and knew quite a few Veteran Marines from WWII and
an Army Ranger, they were hard as nails.
Actually, I would say that this was my favorite episode so far. All that wet! How did those men do it? What a terrible way to have to live and fight for your life. -- Al
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I also agree. This was a well done episode, I feel it really got down to that there is only so much combat a man can take, and sooner or later they will snap. I think it really ties into what Sledge's father said to him in the first episode, "The worst things about those combat boys, wasn't that they had their flesh torn out, it was that they had their souls torn out." This episode rang true that their is only so much soul tearing a human can take.
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Vick
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The next episode, actually the next three focusing on Sledge and Pelelieu look to be blockbusters; they had better be at this point.
Beyond that still lies Iwo Jima and Okinawa, two more bloodbaths.
One other minor thing I've noticed; the dropping of quite a few F bombs. My dad told me they didn't throw the F bomb around quite as much back in the 40's, but what does he know, he wasn't involved in the PTO, he was in the ETO, also known as Bozo's circus.......
Beyond that still lies Iwo Jima and Okinawa, two more bloodbaths.
One other minor thing I've noticed; the dropping of quite a few F bombs. My dad told me they didn't throw the F bomb around quite as much back in the 40's, but what does he know, he wasn't involved in the PTO, he was in the ETO, also known as Bozo's circus.......
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YOUR OPINION, which thankfully isn't changing any of ours or hanks and Spielberg...............Stryker
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I agree with Marco, Lancer, Lewey, and Kingtoot--this was a very well done episode talking about things that happened that were not even covered in other series. This man Leckie, is a famous author---- who happened to be a Marine. He may be writing and telling things that a couple of people on this site don't want to see or hear about---BUT IT HAPPENED---- REGARDLESS IF THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. NEWSFLASH: it rains in the tropics--most every day. If you had ever been there, maybe you might know that. Also, yes another night attack, which is exactly what the japs did--at night. It seems like some people on here want the producers to show things the way they want them, and NOT historically correct, which is what this series will be, again despite what a few will argue with.
I suppose there will be the same person complaining about all the episodes, but the rest of us will enjoy them, and no one including "LUCKY", is pointing a gun to his head forcing him to watch the Pacific anyway. Stryker
I suppose there will be the same person complaining about all the episodes, but the rest of us will enjoy them, and no one including "LUCKY", is pointing a gun to his head forcing him to watch the Pacific anyway. Stryker
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Forgot to include Jazzuem's opinion in my post, but he is totally right also.....Stryker