Pacific-Episode 8 (2 Viewers)

[Warbuff26]

It's Hollywood.....It wouldnt be "dramic" enough being killed instantly by a motar round....they had to have him get shot....so we could see him lay on the ground looking around, coughing up blood before he died. What chaps my hide is that young people, like my 16 yr old nephew, watch this and take it for fact.....until Uncle Brian shoves a book in his hand and says..."Now read what REALLY happened!"

Found this.....interesting.

http://www.awesomestories.com/assets/john-basilone-death-at-iwo-jima

 

[VIRIATO]

It's Hollywood.....It wouldnt be "dramic" enough being killed instantly by a motar round....they had to have him get shot....so we could see him lay on the ground looking around, coughing up blood before he died. What chaps my hide is that young people, like my 16 yr old nephew, watch this and take it for fact.....until Uncle Brian shoves a book in his hand and says..."Now read what REALLY happened!"

Found this.....interesting.

http://www.awesomestories.com/assets/john-basilone-death-at-iwo-jima

Thanks for the link, really interesting stuff and links to other interesting stuff!

Paulo

 

[jazzeum]

Another tragic part of this story is that his wife found out on her 31st birthday that she was a widow and that she never remarried. If that doesn't move you, nothing will.

 

[bromhead]

Wow, I didn't know these facts about Basilone's end. I agree with you George.

Gees, you would think the real story was heroic enough to beat any Hollywood script.

The Pacific was a real meat grinder and psychological HELL!

Carlos

Beyond the exact facts of his death,,going back to face it again show spine beyond and above. When I returned from Viet. I spent the remainder of my time in a training unit,re enlistment would have meant going back . I took the discharge.

 

[Warrior]

Wow, I didn't know these facts about Basilone's end. I agree with you George.

Gees, you would think the real story was heroic enough to beat any Hollywood script.

The Pacific was a real meat grinder and psychological HELL!

Carlos

The Pacific was Hell on earth, end of story. Basilone was a true larger than life character, he was a true hero, too bad they got it all wrong......................nice try though.

 

[kingtoot]

no matter what, Basilone must be Italian for "balls o' steel"..Still showed what leadership is supposed to be. Semper Fi Manila John.

 

[marco55]

I know it's an old saying but he was a man among men.
Mark

 

[lancer]

All one has to do in order to appreciate what our men went through in the Pacific is pick up one of the many battle histories that have been written and read about it. It is a lesson in degrees of horror. It was a war of unrelenting hate and massacre and it just got worse as the war played out. How our men endured and won is just almost unbelievable. My father's generation are, simply, the best. This series has been a tremendous salute to them all. -- Al

 

[BlakeWR85]

The last 10 minutes were great, but getting there, for me, was like watching a chic flick.
Is it just me, but I cannot warm up to the actor playing Basilone.
Having said the above, this series is much more intense than BOB ever was and will be in my hall of fame.
Gary

The actor playing Basilone, Jon Seda, is Puerto Rican descent, whereas Basilone was of Italian descent. I still see this guy as being Selena's husband, at least he played a character of Latino descent there. People who remember him as Chris Perez (Selena's husband) might come to the conclusion that Basilone was Latino, although I'm not sure how they'd explain the last name It's kinda like having Gerard Butler (a Scot) playing King Leonidas (a Greek Spartan). The one thing Basilone and Seda have in common is that they both had backgrounds in boxing.

All this was no big deal to me, I just thought I'd throw out some interesting facts

 

[bromhead]

The actor playing Basilone, Jon Seda, is Puerto Rican descent, whereas Basilone was of Italian descent. I still see this guy as being Selena's husband, at least he played a character of Latino descent there. People who remember him as Chris Perez (Selena's husband) might come to the conclusion that Basilone was Latino, although I'm not sure how they'd explain the last name It's kinda like having Gerard Butler (a Scot) playing King Leonidas (a Greek Spartan). The one thing Basilone and Seda have in common is that they both had backgrounds in boxing.

All this was no big deal to me, I just thought I'd throw out some interesting facts

I didnt come to that conclusion,,knowing a little history helps.

 

[VIRIATO]

The actor playing Basilone, Jon Seda, is Puerto Rican descent, whereas Basilone was of Italian descent. I still see this guy as being Selena's husband, at least he played a character of Latino descent there. People who remember him as Chris Perez (Selena's husband) might come to the conclusion that Basilone was Latino, although I'm not sure how they'd explain the last name It's kinda like having Gerard Butler (a Scot) playing King Leonidas (a Greek Spartan). The one thing Basilone and Seda have in common is that they both had backgrounds in boxing.

All this was no big deal to me, I just thought I'd throw out some interesting facts

Yes, but Italians are latins too, right? In fact their ancestors created the Latin language and thus all the latin originated languages (Italian, Spanish,Portuguese, French,Romanian...). But I see what you mean, a Latino in the USA is someone of Spanish speaking origin... Just here...

Paulo

 

[marco55]

I couldn't tell he wasn't Italian but isn't that actors do,become someone else.I remember when the Mexicans had a fit because Antonio Banderas was playing Pancho Villa in a movie.So stupid.I guess Antonio shouldn't have played that Arab in the 13th Warrior also.
Mark

 

[lancer]

I think Seda has done a fine job. His ethnicity never crossed my mind as I bought into the character he is portraying. He looks the part to me. -- Al

 

[BlakeWR85]

VIRIATO: "touché, monsieur!"

marco55: If you couldn't tell then he was doing a good job acting. When I was younger I didn't know for years that Nicole Kidman was Australian. Or even Damian Lewis playing Dick Winters, until I heard him speak with an English accent on the making of Band of Brothers, I was like 'what the heck.'

lancer: He is doing (or I should say 'did' after episode 8) a good job acting, I was just making reference to is role in Selena, he played a different character. Let me make a more exaggerated comparison: a year after Jeff Daniels played the very serious role of J.L. Chamberlain in Gettysburg, he played Harry Dunn in Dumb and Dumber, hard to picture him as the same actor I actually consider an actor who can play multiple parts to be more talented than someone who basically plays the same character in every movie, "type-cast."

 

[BlakeWR85]

I didn't know how he died until after I watched the episode and I wondered why they chose to show him die that way.It takes nothing away from him showing his heroism by showing the events accurately.A little disappointed in this.
Mark

I hate when producers think that they can "improve" on actual events I'm with you, show it the way it happened! It reminds me of the movie Titanic where Lt. William McMaster Murdoch was portrayed as committing suicide. The 1997 film depicted Murdoch taking, but later rejecting, a bribe from Caledon Hockley; and shooting two passengers dead in a mob on the deck after Murdoch presumes they intend to storm one of the remaining lifeboats. Murdoch then salutes Chief Officer Henry Wilde and commits suicide by firing the pistol into his temple, his body crumpling backwards into the sea. After film producers refused to take out Murdoch's suicide scene, studio executives later flew to Murdoch's hometown to issue an apology for this depiction to his surviving relatives. Surviving eyewitnesses reported that he worked diligently until the end, and was seen alive in the water after the ship went down. Now you guys know why I have this specific quote at the bottom of my signature

 

[marco55]

In the article I read after I saw episode 8 it also said he turned down being an instructor so he could go back to active duty.I read this on Wikipedia and I don't know how accurate this is.
Mark

 

[lancer]

Started rewatching the series today and I am finding it is better the second time around. Picking up some details missed the first time around and have got the characters all straight. Still find the aftermath of the Alligator Creek fight to be sort of overwhelming. What a massacre. -- Al

 

[VIRIATO]

Loved this episode (although I already knew the plot from reading it here, you get to see it first, I only see it/record it on Tuesday), very well done and very thoughtful. Liked the small details like Sledge recovering Hemingway's Men at War from the garbage bin... A fantastic series from episode 5 (or 6?) onwards.

Paulo

 

[bromhead]

VIRIATO: "touché, monsieur!"

marco55: If you couldn't tell then he was doing a good job acting. When I was younger I didn't know for years that Nicole Kidman was Australian. Or even Damian Lewis playing Dick Winters, until I heard him speak with an English accent on the making of Band of Brothers, I was like 'what the heck.'

lancer: He is doing (or I should say 'did' after episode 8) a good job acting, I was just making reference to is role in Selena, he played a different character. Let me make a more exaggerated comparison: a year after Jeff Daniels played the very serious role of J.L. Chamberlain in Gettysburg, he played Harry Dunn in Dumb and Dumber, hard to picture him as the same actor I actually consider an actor who can play multiple parts to be more talented than someone who basically plays the same character in every movie, "type-cast."

True about Daniels,,the only thing I remember about selena is what an amazing can J Lopez used to have pre anorexia

 

[uksubs]

Watched the Episode last night & have to agree with everything jazzeum's said