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[Napoleon1er]

Can some of these be used in Jean Lafitte's pirate crew for Battle of New Orleans??

thoughts?

Tom

Mos of them- not the ones with blankets though.

 

[Combat]

John often uses works of art for inspiration. I wonder if he will model any these new sets on Goya?

 

[Ghostrider]

Boy, these are going to make for some tough decisions on my part{eek3}. I haven't altered from Waterloo, but these sculpts are some of John's finest. He's really upping his game. Well done John!:salute::

Joe

 

[mafunzalo]

As a devout JJD/FIW guy from day 1, I am sad in a way his attentions are diverted. But, the world has finally decided I don't deserve the money I make for my job anymore so it is a financial relief. These upcoming figures are impressive looking and imaginative like the Snow Shoe Range.

 

[VIRIATO]

John often uses works of art for inspiration. I wonder if he will model any these new sets on Goya?

Now this would be a great idea, why not a vignette based on this painting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:E...sco_de_Goya,_from_Prado_thin_black_margin.jpg


Paulo

 

[Napoleon1er]

Now this would be a great idea, why not a vignette based on this painting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:E...sco_de_Goya,_from_Prado_thin_black_margin.jpg


Paulo

Now no offence meant whatsoever, but personally I don't think that would work. Only one scene is possible with those figures, and it would usher in a lot of fierce debate. It is, after all, an execution. What do you think of this:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...tart=0&ndsp=33&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0&tx=51&ty=42

My top choice is, however, Andre Massena doing what he did most often during that campaign- what other way to express the battle of Bussaco then a little cabin.... Let's just hope I don't get banned{sm4}

 

[Combat]

Now no offence meant whatsoever, but personally I don't think that would work. Only one scene is possible with those figures, and it would usher in a lot of fierce debate. It is, after all, an execution. What do you think of this:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...tart=0&ndsp=33&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0&tx=51&ty=42

My top choice is, however, Andre Massena doing what he did most often during that campaign- what other way to express the battle of Bussaco then a little cabin.... Let's just hope I don't get banned{sm4}

I know there has been debate about depicting atrocities associated with WWII. Particularly relating to civilians. However, I think those sensitivies might be somewhat lessened when they are more remote in time like this line and the FIW. These were brutal affairs and civilians often bore the burnt of suffering. I really don't see how he can accurately depict these campaigns by avoiding the topic. It wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea, but John has done some similar work with the FIW (e.g. scalping poles and captured prisoners).

 

[Napoleon1er]

I know there has been debate about depicting atrocities associated with WWII. Particularly relating to civilians. However, I think those sensitivies might be somewhat lessened when they are more remote in time like this line and the FIW. These were brutal affairs and civilians often bore the burnt of suffering. I really don't see how he can accurately depict these campaigns by avoiding the topic. It wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea, but John has done some similar work with the FIW (e.g. scalping poles and captured prisoners).

True, and I agree, BUT we are talking about an execution, plain and simple. Now feasibly this could work, but remember that the poses of the dead are such that they could only work for an execution, so I guess I am a bit undecided. I would buy it, and it would look nice, but I would rather buy another thing.

 

[nysoldiers]

I know there has been debate about depicting atrocities associated with WWII. Particularly relating to civilians. However, I think those sensitivies might be somewhat lessened when they are more remote in time like this line and the FIW. These were brutal affairs and civilians often bore the burnt of suffering. I really don't see how he can accurately depict these campaigns by avoiding the topic. It wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea, but John has done some similar work with the FIW (e.g. scalping poles and captured prisoners).

To be displayed in a museum with the proper disclosure and commentary could be educational. To be collected individually, I personally find morbid and possibly sending the wrong message to young children viewing them.
I am aware of the atrocities committed in war and strongly advocate educating everyone about them objectively and within their historical context. I just think depicting the "horrors" of war with toy soldiers diminishes the impact.
I certainly won't condemn anyone who wants to collect these types of figures, afterall we are in a sense "sterilizing" warfare with our hobby.

 

[VIRIATO]

True, and I agree, BUT we are talking about an execution, plain and simple. Now feasibly this could work, but remember that the poses of the dead are such that they could only work for an execution, so I guess I am a bit undecided. I would buy it, and it would look nice, but I would rather buy another thing.

Yes, I see your point, it's a good one, I thought about it when I posted. But I would still find it interesting thinking just of a toy soldier representation of a famous painting, something like the Britains/Rocco art of war dios. And I am not a fan of my TS depicting too violent realistic scenes, something that I don't like with Conte, but with such a famous historically accurate painting I feel differently.

Paulo

 

[mikemiller1955]

Mike Miller if your reading this it looks like we may also get our additional artillery crew before long so everything is good.^&grin^&cool

Paul...

thanks for remembering my comment and the intel...I have wanted to do a Chippawa British Artillery diorama for a long...long...long time...but wouldn't attempt to man my 24 pounder...howitzer and 2-6 pounders with only the 5 man British artillery crew that John has given us so far...I'm hoping John will put out at least 2 sets of 2 figures each...to supplement the British crew...I'm also hoping for some officers...both foot and mounted...plus a drummer...

I have always thought that the Chippawa USCH Artillery crew he did is one of the best artillery sets ever done by a manufacturer...with the 3 crew sets of 8 figures and
the standing officer and drummer...plus a flag bearer and the mounted Club set...and the mounted Staff officer...you gotta admit...this makes a good looking solid artillery crew...

the pictures I posted don't even include the new Capt. Nathan Towson figure...waving his hat like he scored a direct hit...which he actually did at Chippawa...so when you can get 14 guys behind an artillery position...you know it's gonna look good...

John also talked about more Iroquois for Chippawa...he mentioned Delaware...Mohawk...Seneca...Huron...and some other tribes of the 6 Nations...led on opposing sides by Red Jacket and John Norton (which he has already given us)...

over 800 brethren Iroquois clashed against each other at Chippawa...for the first and only time ever...they made a large contingent of the forces present at this battle...
but...after seeing their own slain brothers on the battle field...mostly caused at their own hands...the Iroquois withdrew from the war and remained neutral til it's end...

did he happen to mention anything about Indians for Chippawa...and thanks again for the update...

 

[19th Light Dragoons]

Great set up and diorama

But a terrible position to defend, water and marsh behind, no escape route

cheers
Edward

 

[Naps...just Naps]

Paul...

thanks for remembering my comment and the intel...I have wanted to do a Chippawa British Artillery diorama for a long...long...long time...but wouldn't attempt to man my 24 pounder...howitzer and 2-6 pounders with only the 5 man British artillery crew that John has given us so far...I'm hoping John will put out at least 2 sets of 2 figures each...to supplement the British crew...I'm also hoping for some officers...both foot and mounted...plus a drummer...

I have always thought that the Chippawa USCH Artillery crew he did is one of the best artillery sets ever done by a manufacturer...with the 3 crew sets of 8 figures and
the standing officer and drummer...plus a flag bearer and the mounted Club set...and the mounted Staff officer...you gotta admit...this makes a good looking solid artillery crew...

the pictures I posted don't even include the new Capt. Nathan Towson figure...waving his hat like he scored a direct hit...which he actually did at Chippawa...so when you can get 14 guys behind an artillery position...you know it's gonna look good...

John also talked about more Iroquois for Chippawa...he mentioned Delaware...Mohawk...Seneca...Huron...and some other tribes of the 6 Nations...led on opposing sides by Red Jacket and John Norton (which he has already given us)...

over 800 brethren Iroquois clashed against each other at Chippawa...for the first and only time ever...they made a large contingent of the forces present at this battle...
but...after seeing their own slain brothers on the battle field...mostly caused at their own hands...the Iroquois withdrew from the war and remained neutral til it's end...

did he happen to mention anything about Indians for Chippawa...and thanks again for the update...

That is a great set-up you've got there Mike.
This is exactly why we need John to produce some more British artillery. It just looks so realistic when there is a full team there. I would really like him to reproduce the guy shielding his ears but in a British uniform. That figure is so right.
I'm still hoping for someone to look after the limber and horses as well. we will have to wait and see.
John didn't mention anything about more Indians for Chippawa but I suppose he has plenty on his hands with all these new lines. We will have to keep prompting him.
Cheers
Paul

 

[mikemiller1955]

That is a great set-up you've got there Mike.
This is exactly why we need John to produce some more British artillery. It just looks so realistic when there is a full team there. I would really like him to reproduce the guy shielding his ears but in a British uniform. That figure is so right.
I'm still hoping for someone to look after the limber and horses as well. we will have to wait and see.
John didn't mention anything about more Indians for Chippawa but I suppose he has plenty on his hands with all these new lines. We will have to keep prompting him.
Cheers
Paul

Paul...

I agree with your comments about the guy shielding his ears...he's my favorite...that sculpt tells a great story...I can just imagine how loud those guns were when I look at him...I would love a similar figure on the British side...maybe standing though...mix it up a tad...

my second favorite is from the same set...the guy with the linstock tentatively reaching out to light the charge...he has one hand close to his ear...ready to cover it...and with his arm outstretched maximum distance...he doesn't look like he wants to be too close when it ignites...another great sculpt that tells a story...

I'm sure the percussion standing that close was awesome...I have seen re-enactments of the Battle of San Jacinto and even from a distance...those guns are pretty loud...

lets hope for some more artillery crew...I'm hoping for at least 4 more figures...also a drummer...and both foot and mounted officers...

thanks again for the intel Paul...

 

[marco55]

Saw a email from John saying he wanted to start in this area as he considers them the "Woodland Indians" of Napoleanics.First Spanish guerillas sets to be released in June,Portuguese in July.
Mark

 

[Obee]

Paul...

I agree with your comments about the guy shielding his ears...he's my favorite...that sculpt tells a great story...I can just imagine how loud those guns were when I look at him...I would love a similar figure on the British side...maybe standing though...mix it up a tad...

my second favorite is from the same set...the guy with the linstock tentatively reaching out to light the charge...he has one hand close to his ear...ready to cover it...and with his arm outstretched maximum distance...he doesn't look like he wants to be too close when it ignites...another great sculpt that tells a story...

I'm sure the percussion standing that close was awesome....

Mike,

pecussion from gunfire is a real problem when firing artillery.

There is a syndrome than many gunners have called "Gunner Ear" (not be confused with a well known venereal disease) which results in deafness in short periods and eventually a sever loss of hearing.

When I was a gunner, we had to wear ear protection, much like industrial ear muffs, so to dampen the noise, but you still get the force of the explosion coming through the body. Firing a 25 pounder QF Gun you got a real kick in the backside, because the No3 firing the gun was seated.

Still thats why Artillery was called the 'King of the Battlefield'

UBIQUE,

John

 

[Napoleon1er]

Still thats why Artillery was called the 'King of the Battlefield'

UBIQUE,

John

Quo fas et Gloria ducunt

Go arty!

 

[Dragoon]

A Peninsular War range is welcomed news. Have always hoped John would do something with the Napoleonic Wars. The conflict in Spain will offer up a wide variety of subjects for figures as well as scenics. - Looking forward to this one.:smile2:

 

[Fitzgibbon]

It's gotta be a winner - and the irregulars are an extremely colorful bunch. As a newby to this end of the miniature military hobby, I am impressed by JJ Designs. Seems to have struck a happy compromise between price and quality, which others have a struggle achieving, and is also very innovative with choice of subjects. I love the War of 1812 range with its flexible complementarity to Napoleonic settings.

 

[waynepoo]

Mate, I know you have a good collection and it's great that you are showing it to us.
Wayne.