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I'm working on some Traditions ACW figures to supplement my Trophy collection. I paint with Humbrol Gloss and do not apply any finish over the paint. For some reason my figures do not have the same smooth, glossy finish as the Trophy guys. The key here is smooth. My figures appear glossy but seem to have a slight sticky or tacky look to the gloss, over the smoothness. I use the really good brushes, Winsor & Newton Series 7, and keep them clean. Any ideas or suggestions?

Robert
 
It is possible that you are applying the paint too thickly. It is better to paint two thin coats to cover, allowing the first coat to dry thoughly before applying the second. Hope this helps.
 
Does seem from what you are saying to be the application which may be the problem. Troopers idea seems very good
Mitch
 
How thick is the paint, too? You might need to thin the paint a little, as well as to observe Trooper's tip about putting on layers too thick. One of the variety of paints that I use is Testor's enamels in the little square bottles, and it gets thick relatively quickly once opened. When it's so thick that the paint doesn't level itself, I know I need to add some thinner. The paint should flow, but not run, and you should see your brush strokes level themselves out as the paint does flow, until it dries/cures enough to stop.

Hope that helps, prost!
Brad
 
I'm working on some Traditions ACW figures to supplement my Trophy collection. I paint with Humbrol Gloss and do not apply any finish over the paint. For some reason my figures do not have the same smooth, glossy finish as the Trophy guys. The key here is smooth. My figures appear glossy but seem to have a slight sticky or tacky look to the gloss, over the smoothness. I use the really good brushes, Winsor & Newton Series 7, and keep them clean. Any ideas or suggestions?

Robert

Robert,

I only paint with Humbrol gloss enamels and may I suggest that you stir the paint with a cocktail stick or similar and then drip the paint into a palette and stir again with the brush before appling to the figure. Also I assume that you have undercoated the figure with a suitable primer before painting. I mostly get reasonable results this way.

Jeff
 
The thickness of the paint seems to differ from can to can. Do you always paint from a palette? If I mixer colors I use the palette but if no mixing is required I paint from the can. Does brush size make a difference when painting specific areas or does brush size just relate to the amount of detail? I'll try putting lighter coats on the figure and will post pictures a little bit later. Thanks for the help I feel like I'm a lot better at painting then when I started.

Robert
 
The thickness of the paint seems to differ from can to can. Do you always paint from a palette? If I mixer colors I use the palette but if no mixing is required I paint from the can. Does brush size make a difference when painting specific areas or does brush size just relate to the amount of detail? I'll try putting lighter coats on the figure and will post pictures a little bit later. Thanks for the help I feel like I'm a lot better at painting then when I started.

Robert

Robert,

I always paint from the palette and never from the tin but that's just me! Stirring the paint thoroughly is most important when using gloss and I'm sure will give a better finish. I use a larger brush for the main areas and then a very small one for the finer detal and different sizes inbetween.

I have a few threads in the painting how-to section of the forum which shows the cack-handed way I paint...

Jeff
 
There are some very good posts in this thread with practical points on painting.

I have one question: Which brand of paint gives the most glossy and shiny finish ?

Thanks, Raymond.:)
 
There are some very good posts in this thread with practical points on painting.

I have one question: Which brand of paint gives the most glossy and shiny finish ?

Thanks, Raymond.:)

Raymond, I have only ever used Humbrol so I can't give any other suggestions, but I have always been happy with the results.

Jeff
 
There are some very good posts in this thread with practical points on painting.

I have one question: Which brand of paint gives the most glossy and shiny finish ?

Thanks, Raymond.:)

An alternative to using gloss paint is to paint with matt paint and then varnish. I have used the type of spray lacquer sold by car accessory shops and used to protect chrome. In the UK it is "Spectra" available from Halfords. Two thin coats give a very good gloss finish which enhances the original colours.
 
Raymond, I have only ever used Humbrol so I can't give any other suggestions, but I have always been happy with the results.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

I have used Testors in the past. As I have not painted for many years, I do need a new supply of enamel paint. With the benefit of your experience with Humbrol, I shall go with this.

Thanks, Raymond.:)
 
An alternative to using gloss paint is to paint with matt paint and then varnish. I have used the type of spray lacquer sold by car accessory shops and used to protect chrome. In the UK it is "Spectra" available from Halfords. Two thin coats give a very good gloss finish which enhances the original colours.

Hi trooper,

I have never tried doing this as yet. Also, I am not sure if I can get Spectra spray cans locally. I thought of varnishing some of my older gloss sets which have lost their glossy shine. I have 2 bottles of gloss varnish by Testors which I could use to apply with a good brush. That said, I am not an accomplished painter so I am a little wary of making a mess of the sets/figures.

Thanks, Raymond:)
 
Hi trooper,

I have never tried doing this as yet. Also, I am not sure if I can get Spectra spray cans locally. I thought of varnishing some of my older gloss sets which have lost their glossy shine. I have 2 bottles of gloss varnish by Testors which I could use to apply with a good brush. That said, I am not an accomplished painter so I am a little wary of making a mess of the sets/figures.

Thanks, Raymond:)

Raymond, it is better to use a spray varnish, if available, rather than a brush as you get a more even finish. Spectra may not be available but it might be worth while enquiring at your local motor accessory suppliers for something similar. While experimenting it would also be worth while investing in some cheap plastic figures to try out the various finishes before attempting the rest of your collection.
 
Raymond, it is better to use a spray varnish, if available, rather than a brush as you get a more even finish. Spectra may not be available but it might be worth while enquiring at your local motor accessory suppliers for something similar. While experimenting it would also be worth while investing in some cheap plastic figures to try out the various finishes before attempting the rest of your collection.

Hi trooper,

Thanks very much for the good advice.

I am sure I can find a suitable spray varnish and then do a couple of "dry runs" before commencing "live firing".

Cheers, Raymond.:)
 
Robert,

Sounds as if you are using Humbrol paints, which are generally excellent; however, you mentioned that the consistency appears to vary from tin to tin...not surprised about this at all. While Humbrol paints will often last for many years in a tin, what will affect their consistency is how much air remains in the tin after displacing paint in previous uses, any air leaks in the cap and how long the tins sit stagnant (most likely). Not to worry...all these guys are right. The best thing to do is: 1) make sure the cap is on tightly and shake vigorously (I have covered myself in enamel by not checking first), 2) stir the paint thoroughly from the bottom and sides, 3) mix in a palette (you will most likely need to thin this...and I cannot offer better advice than Brad's on how the paint should respond for ideal consistency...make sure it can level itself without running).

It is likely that your paints ARE all different consistencies, so don't treat them as if they are all the same; test each one before you apply. Your brushes are perfect.

Regarless of how well your finish turns out, you may want to spray a protective gloss coat in any case to protect your work.

Best wishes in your painting!
 
Hey guys, thought I would show you my latest paintings. As you can see from the pictures below the paint looks a lot smoother. I could still improve on the black belts, think I need to put more light coats. I also need to work on the consistency of the faces. I started putting all my paint in a pallet and checking the flow of the paint as you mentioned.

Robert

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There are some very good posts in this thread with practical points on painting.

I have one question: Which brand of paint gives the most glossy and shiny finish ?

Thanks, Raymond.:)

Future Floor Polish. Known as Johnson's Kleer, if I'm not mistaken, outside the US, though I think they've changed the name here, too, and it's something like "Kleer, with Future". It's a clear acrylic liquid, designed to impart a glossy and hard-wearing surface to linoleum and vinyl floors. Hobbyists have been using it for years, because it basically does the same thing as many of the gloss coats available on the hobby supply market, but it's much cheaper per volume and since it's acrylic and not enamel- or petroleum-based, it doesn't require harsh solvents. If you brush it on, you can wash the brush in water, or isopropyl.

It can be hand-brushed or airbrushed, or you can even dip pieces in it, like aircraft modelers do with clear parts (it seals the surface of a clear plastic canopy, filling in the microscopic scratches on the surface, and makes it look clearer). It can be tinted with water-based acrylic colors, or even food coloring. I find that it imparts a depth to the colors that I apply, making them richer.

As for commercially available gloss paints, in my experience, Testor's enamels in the in the little square bottles work the best. Tamiya's gloss colors are good, but they're formulated for airbrushing, and tend to get thick after a while. The best used to be Pactra, who made water-based enamels, that were just excellent. But Testor's bought them out, and eventually discontinued the Pacta line. My stash of those paints is gradually running out.

Model Master gloss enamels and water-based acrylics are also pretty good, they brush well.

Hope that helps, prosit!
Brad
 
Hi Jeff,

I have used Testors in the past. As I have not painted for many years, I do need a new supply of enamel paint. With the benefit of your experience with Humbrol, I shall go with this.

Thanks, Raymond.:)

I just like the taste really! :D

I don't think you can go wrong with Humbrol, so the best of luck and look forward to seeing some of the results. :)

Jeff
 
Hey guys, thought I would show you my latest paintings. As you can see from the pictures below the paint looks a lot smoother. I could still improve on the black belts, think I need to put more light coats. I also need to work on the consistency of the faces. I started putting all my paint in a pallet and checking the flow of the paint as you mentioned.

Robert

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Hi Robert,

Looks good :) What do you use for the flesh? I mix mine from buff and a dash of red.

Jeff
 

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