R/C K/C Shermans? (1 Viewer)

[maddadicus]

1/30 Scale radio controlled tank....And collectors thought that we could not play with our tanks Michael

 

[Mitch]

Nice Sherman
Mitch

 

[maddadicus]

Size is listed 1/30 scale ( 9" x 4" )which makes the width compatible with current Shermans but has the length an inch longer. My thought was to buy, repaint K/C like, weatherize and add extra stowage and see how it fits in. If CS comes out with a true 1/30 Sherman, then it ought add up close to this..Michael

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Size is listed 1/30 scale ( 9" x 4" )which makes the width compatible with current Shermans but has the length an inch longer. My thought was to buy, repaint K/C like, weatherize and add extra stowage and see how it fits in. If CS comes out with a true 1/30 Sherman, then it ought add up close to this..Michael

I thought the new Shermans were 1:30 scale?

Terry

 

[pugio]

1/30 Scale radio controlled tank....And collectors thought that we could not play with our tanks Michael

About 10 years ago , I bought a Tokyo Mauri (a leader in air soft tech) Leopard that was fully automated but also fired 6mm plastic balls with power. When fired, a red light in front would flash, and the tank would have a slight recoil. Many a cold winter afternoon it would attack Lego fortresses manned by Marx troops. Now I going to have to find and enjoy it again. Thanks for the post.....

 

[pugio]

Ooops... wasn't a Leopard, it was a Japan Home Defense Tank Type 90...

 

[binder001]

I thought the new Shermans were 1:30 scale?Terry

There have been various posts that the K&C tanks are not always excatly 1/30th scale. The new M4A3E8 by Collectors Showcase is clearly larger than most K&C offerings. One of the problems is that many manufacturers use 1/35th scale models to create their masters or prototypes, these are then scaled up to 1/30th. The transfer is not always as precise as might be hoped, leading to some vehicles that are too long, too short, too narrow, etc.

The basic r/c model shown is an M4A3 75mm Wet Stowage. These started seeing combat in later 1944 in Europe and the Pacific. Model looks interesting. What is the price and is there a US source?

Gary B.

 

[Ken & Ericka Osen/H&A Studio]

Size is listed 1/30 scale ( 9" x 4" )which makes the width compatible with current Shermans but has the length an inch longer. My thought was to buy, repaint K/C like, weatherize and add extra stowage and see how it fits in. If CS comes out with a true 1/30 Sherman, then it ought add up close to this..Michael

This is the one I coverted a year ago. Carlos bought it from me at the West Coaster.
It runs very fast, but the turret and gun elevation are at a nice speed. If I convert another one, in addition to the new gun and detailing I will improve the tracks too.

All the Best,
Ken

 

[Mitch]

I think looking at the Sherman from CS it looks when you compare other stuff next to it to be quite large and spot on for scale. K&C has played around with scale so much over the years that even now some of the sets are still, although large, not spot on in scale.

I wish this interest in 1/35th scale almost to a point of obsession would end as IMO its more detrimental than help to the 1/30th hobby
Mitch

 

[binder001]

I wish this interest in 1/35th scale almost to a point of obsession would end as IMO its more detrimental than help to the 1/30th hobby Mitch

I'm not sure about the "obsession" with 1/35th. In scale modeling? That battle was fought back in the early 1970's and Tamiya's 1/35th won hands down. Airfix and Monogram were in 1/32nd and Tamiya and Italeri beat them out in sales. The Airfix models were of high quality but the Monograms left a lot to be desired.

As far as using the models as ideas or prototypes?
Dude, that's where the research is! You don't think K&C or the others actually do any measurements of real vehicles? Nope! The engineers from Tamiya and Dragon have been visiting museums and collections all over the world doing measurements and accumulating data. The toy guys just buy the 1/35th model and scale it up. Except for some markings there's little original research involved. I didn't want to make it an issue, but the upcoming CS Sherman has the .50 cal. MG mount in the wrong place. They worked from some photos, they didn't go out and look at the real thing (although real M4A3E8s are not rare in the USA). I can't think of any "collectible" vehicle that wasn't issued as a 1/35th model first - that's no coincidence.

So I hope the "obsession" with 1/35th models grows, especially as newer and more accurate kits come out, that should lead to more accurate "collectibles".

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I'm not sure about the "obsession" with 1/35th. In scale modeling? That battle was fought back in the early 1970's and Tamiya's 1/35th won hands down. Airfix and Monogram were in 1/32nd and Tamiya and Italeri beat them out in sales. The Airfix models were of high quality but the Monograms left a lot to be desired.

As far as using the models as ideas or prototypes?
Dude, that's where the research is! You don't think K&C or the others actually do any measurements of real vehicles? Nope! The engineers from Tamiya and Dragon have been visiting museums and collections all over the world doing measurements and accumulating data. The toy guys just buy the 1/35th model and scale it up. Except for some markings there's little original research involved. I didn't want to make it an issue, but the upcoming CS Sherman has the .50 cal. MG mount in the wrong place. They worked from some photos, they didn't go out and look at the real thing (although real M4A3E8s are not rare in the USA). I can't think of any "collectible" vehicle that wasn't issued as a 1/35th model first - that's no coincidence.

So I hope the "obsession" with 1/35th models grows, especially as newer and more accurate kits come out, that should lead to more accurate "collectibles".

So when people ask for some funky model, but one that has not been made as a plastic model kit, and a fairly recent one at that, the probability of getting it in 1:30 is about nil.

Terry

 

[maddadicus]

These are all over Ebay for about $45.00 U.S. Michael

 

[johngambale]

Hello Guys! I purchased 6-Sherman R/C Tanks Last Year when they were Selling on E-Bay for around $10-20-US! Now , they're Selling for Least amount $25.00US! They are 1/30th Scale! I Re-Painted 2-Desert N.Africa Colors and 2-WINTER BULGE Colors-----2-Added Sandbags and Writing on HULL! Nicest M4's I ever had! In TOYS, I Mean! CIAO!

 

[Mitch]

binder001...

I think you missed the point of my thread or, I did not explain it properly. The obsession I spoke about was the comments from certain manufacturers about their desire etc to bring in the detail of the 1/35th scale into 1/30th hobby. That is IMO a mistake in several ways which, I have mentioned before so, as this is not about these issues I won't raise them again. I was not mentioning the fact certain manufacturers will use Tamiya paint and detail cards as templates as its been seen in pictures before. What I was saying was the hobby should stand on its own two feet and move in its own direction for its customer base instead of the way it has been going.

You can roughly tell what will be released by viewing the forthcoming releases from the plastic world and, as others were mentioning scale I stated that many on here have easily worked out what the dimensions are needed for perfect 1/30th so, its not rocket science. As for kits getting better well, that is true for sure from the early kits however, they do make some errors in detail and design regardless of the amount of research they may do and, should not be blindly followed.
Mitch

I'm not sure about the "obsession" with 1/35th. In scale modeling? That battle was fought back in the early 1970's and Tamiya's 1/35th won hands down. Airfix and Monogram were in 1/32nd and Tamiya and Italeri beat them out in sales. The Airfix models were of high quality but the Monograms left a lot to be desired.

As far as using the models as ideas or prototypes?
Dude, that's where the research is! You don't think K&C or the others actually do any measurements of real vehicles? Nope! The engineers from Tamiya and Dragon have been visiting museums and collections all over the world doing measurements and accumulating data. The toy guys just buy the 1/35th model and scale it up. Except for some markings there's little original research involved. I didn't want to make it an issue, but the upcoming CS Sherman has the .50 cal. MG mount in the wrong place. They worked from some photos, they didn't go out and look at the real thing (although real M4A3E8s are not rare in the USA). I can't think of any "collectible" vehicle that wasn't issued as a 1/35th model first - that's no coincidence.

So I hope the "obsession" with 1/35th models grows, especially as newer and more accurate kits come out, that should lead to more accurate "collectibles".

 

[binder001]

I think have it now Mitch. You are right that 1/30 "collectibles" should be viewed as their own art form versus the highly detailed 1/35 kits - especially when a modeler has corrected the kit's errors and added photo-etch and resin parts to upgrade it. I enjoy my 1/35th models but FRAGILE only starts the warning process on them. My 1/30th can be displayed, dusted, handled, etc with reasonable care and still be in good shape. If I want to build something that takes a lot of time but provide accuracy and fine detail than I go with the 1/35th kit, if I want a model that looks good and has some fine figures to go with it then I get a 1/30th item. If I'm in the middle and don't want to go nuts over all the details and just want to "putter around" and improve a basic model then I go over my FoVs or 21Cs and upgrade them a bit. There are lots of options in this hobby.

Gary B.

 

[maddadicus]

These are comparison photos for the R/C controlled tank that I just received alongside K/C Shermans and a BMC plastic tank. Not a bad fit for weathering and added stowage. Michael

 

[maddadicus]

Close up photos of K/C Sherman and R/C Sherman..Michael

 

[maddadicus]

Question for tech guys..Is it possible to add a component to slow down the workings of the tank..Michael