Re FL WW2 Vehicles material made from (1 Viewer)

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Hi all are the tanks , halftracks also made of plastic not metal like King Country and Figarti

I was amazed the jeeps are plastic especially for those prices

nice, but metal is sturdy and much better, also they are not really 1/30 more like 1/35th scale
 
FL models are mixed media, just like JJD, War Park and Figarti. Tank/halftrack hulls are plastic with plastic and metal parts/accessories.

As for scale, most all the FL tanks are exactly 1/30 scale based off actual vehicle dimensions. Some are slightly bigger at around 1/29-ish (not sure why you think they are 1/35).

As for material, it doesn't matter what is used, it just matters the result. I'll take a highly detailed and well painted plastic model any day of the week over a polystone/metal model with less detail.
 
FL models are mixed media, just like JJD, War Park and Figarti. Tank/halftrack hulls are plastic with plastic and metal parts/accessories.

As for scale, most all the FL tanks are exactly 1/30 scale based off actual vehicle dimensions. Some are slightly bigger at around 1/29-ish (not sure why you think they are 1/35).

As for material, it doesn't matter what is used, it just matters the result. I'll take a highly detailed and well painted plastic model any day of the week over a polystone/metal model with less detail.


The jeeps are much small than KC ones and all plastic, unlike KC, only the figures are metal
so curious about tanks etc
 
Nobody in the 1/30 market makes tanks out of 100% metal. As Hunter noted, it’s all mixed media. If you want 100% metal, try buying the real thing :wink2:
 
The jeeps are much small than KC ones...

That's your problem, you assumed K&C is actually 1/30.

In reality, almost none of K&C's figures or vehicles are 1/30. Most all K&C stuff is larger than 1/30. That's why you'll see a lot of people on here refer to 1/28 when talking about K&C.
 
I could care less what the vehicles are made from, my focus is on the quality of the finished product.
 
Being gone for awhile but I'm a bit surprised of the plastic-metal wars still live on...😁
 
Being gone for awhile but I'm a bit surprised of the plastic-metal wars still live on...😁

That war actually ended quite a while back, I believe. But like most things it resurfaces on occasion.

Joe
 
Being gone for awhile but I'm a bit surprised of the plastic-metal wars still live on...😁

I'm just waiting for someone to complain about the "weight" of First Legion tanks and how the K&C ones are clearly superior because they had "heft" to them...{sm2}
 
That war actually ended quite a while back, I believe. But like most things it resurfaces on occasion.

Joe

I saw this thread and thought, “Oh no, not again!”

I had a similar reaction when I got my first FL vehicle (the 8-rad.). Matt answered my questions very patiently. Now FL is the vast majority of my vehicle collection.

I just don’t think you can get better details than the high quality materials used by the more modern manufacturers.
 
I'm just waiting for someone to complain about the "weight" of First Legion tanks and how the K&C ones are clearly superior because they had "heft" to them...{sm2}

In my experience, it wasn't a question of being superior, it was a question of value.......ie, if it's "light", it's not worth as much.

It's not any manufacturers fault, it's how collectors have been conditioned to think.

Back when I was the sole First Legion dealer (man I miss those days............:wink2:), the Stalingrad range was rolled out at Chicago, I got the first batch of Germans and both tanks, Matt had two custom dioramas made for the range and delivered to my hotel room............................the reaction from the majority of collectors when they picked up the tank was a combination of shock/horror/angst/trauma............................I sold out of the tanks and all the figures by the end of the show.

There was quite a buzz at the show over the tanks and the range; Rick from Figarti came to my room to investigate, I closed the door to the room and he and I had a chat about the tanks.

He was blown away by how spectacular they looked, Rick was a credit to this hobby, always gave you an honest answer, he asked me what the reaction was and I told him; he said "They should put a piece of metal along the inside the bottom of the tank to give it weight, problem solved".................{sm4}

I run into this situation in the wargaming market as well; the majority of gamers grew up gaming with metal figures, then companies started doing plastics, selling them for much cheaper.............................so again, people equated value with weight, they were willing to pay 2.00 for a single 28mm metal figure, boxes of 50 plastic figures that had to be glued together cost 20.00, that's about .40 cents a figure, MUCH cheaper.

In my 20mm WWII collection, I have a mix of resin tanks, diecast prepainted tanks and model kits that are painted, it's all the same to me, the finished product is all I care about, I've seen beautifully painted resin tanks, I've seen horribly painted built up model kits.

The finished product should be the biggest concern, not the material it's made out of.
 
Sorry, have First Legion released a new vehicle, or is that a flying pig…..

Heavy, light who the hell cares, some consistency with new releases is all I want but I don’t see that happening any time soon!
 
Sorry, have First Legion released a new vehicle, or is that a flying pig…..

Heavy, light who the hell cares, some consistency with new releases is all I want but I don’t see that happening any time soon!

When I first saw this thread, my first thought was "here's another 12 year old thread resurfacing".......................but it's not the case.

So there's that.
 
Like some others the first post did remind me of the old days{sm2} However I do think Trevor was just expressing his opinion regarding the weight v value factor rather than any intent to stir things up.

I have made comments on the subject of weight before. I do remember well the reaction at Chicago via the discussions here. Warriors comment about Rick of Figarti saying putting in some weight would help reminds me of same thing I was told even before I set up my business.

I do do agree the final look is the most important factor especially as the items are mainly going to sit on a shelf. It is probably fair to say those that buy FL have ruled out the weight factor as being an important consideration versus their appreciation of the detail and painting etc. The fact they buy shows they consider it good value as nobody buys things they don't think are worth the money. As such it is very much individual choice.

However having said that from a sales point of view I do prefer some weight.
 

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