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Rose Miniatures designed by Russell Gammage MSIA pioneered the birth of MODEL soldiers in the late 50s and were eventually sold off when Russell retired subsequently passing through several owners and rebirths.The remaning masters are now owned by John Eden Studios but now only a limited range is produced but it was originally a very wide range of multiple piece castings. As such they were the converters dream as the parts were often interchangeable.
 
Blast from the past! I had several Rose figures that I assembled and painted back in the early 70's. Always liked them. I have only a French Poilu left now, done in '71, the rest being casualties of the moves and decades in between. -- Al
 
Grenadier1929 said:
Rose Miniatures designed by Russell Gammage MSIA pioneered the birth of MODEL soldiers in the late 50s and were eventually sold off when Russell retired subsequently passing through several owners and rebirths.The remaning masters are now owned by John Eden Studios but now only a limited range is produced but it was originally a very wide range of multiple piece castings. As such they were the converters dream as the parts were often interchangeable.
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Actually, if you visit John's website and don't see a figure displayed, send him an email and ask if he has the molds. I've done so, in the past, and he's willing to make arrangements.

His catalog also includes much of the Phoenix Georgian range.

Prost!
Brad
 
I have seen Rose Miniatures list several lots of unpainted Sanderson Victorian figure castings on eBay recently?

Is there any historical connection between the 2 ?:confused:

I believe Sanderson was made by Rosedale Miniatures.

If I recall correctly, the Sanderson moulds were bought by Fleurbaix Toy Soldier of South Australia.

Thanks, Raymond.:)
 
glossman said:
I have seen Rose Miniatures list several lots of unpainted Sanderson Victorian figure castings on eBay recently?

Is there any historical connection between the 2 ?:confused:

I believe Sanderson was made by Rosedale Miniatures.

If I recall correctly, the Sanderson moulds were bought by Fleurbaix Toy Soldier of South Australia.

Thanks, Raymond.:)
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No historical connection. Fleurbaix does have Sanderson moulds and also some of Rose, should imagine the Ebay listings are from him.
 
John Eden sells on eBay as "roseminiatures", if I am not mistaken. He has some Sanderson molds in his catalog, too.

Most recently, he had some castings up, including one of the market stall sets, and some Georgian figures, a mix of Rose, Phoenix and Sanderson castings all told.

He is the only source for any of the Phoenix 54mm figures at this time, too, since the demise of Soldierpac. There still hasn't been any offer to buy that business and resume production.

Prost!
Brad
 
I'm pretty sure that these Royal Marines are Rose.

roseRM1.jpg


I converted some to USMC.

roseUSMC1.jpg
 
trooper said:
No historical connection. Fleurbaix does have Sanderson moulds and also some of Rose, should imagine the Ebay listings are from him.
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Trooper,

Thanks very much for your answer.

Raymond.:)
 
theBaron said:
John Eden sells on eBay as "roseminiatures", if I am not mistaken. He has some Sanderson molds in his catalog, too.

Most recently, he had some castings up, including one of the market stall sets, and some Georgian figures, a mix of Rose, Phoenix and Sanderson castings all told.

He is the only source for any of the Phoenix 54mm figures at this time, too, since the demise of Soldierpac. There still hasn't been any offer to buy that business and resume production.

Prost!
Brad
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Brad,

Just to confirm......the Phoenix Follies figures are from a completely different manufacturer ?

The two ranges are like chalk and cheese to me.:D

Thanks, Raymond:)
 
glossman said:
Brad,

Just to confirm......the Phoenix Follies figures are from a completely different manufacturer ?

The two ranges are like chalk and cheese to me.:D

Thanks, Raymond:)
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The Phoenix Follies range is now owned and marketed by Le Cimier in France. They are 80 or 90mm.
 
Thanks. They were a first attempt after a long spell of not painting. I couldn't charge by the hour for my time on them. ROSE figures were some of the 1st metal figures I was able to buy as a kid.
 
glossman said:
Brad,

Just to confirm......the Phoenix Follies figures are from a completely different manufacturer ?

The two ranges are like chalk and cheese to me.:D

Thanks, Raymond:)
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Hi, Raymond, if I may add to Trooper's answer, the Follies originated in Phoenix' catalog, sculpted by Tim Richards. He went on to sculpt a completely adult line--and I do mean completely adult--as Mascot Models.

The Follies were accompanied by larger "Lost World of Atlantis" figures in Phoenix' 80mm catalog. Those Atlantis figures weren't just scaled-up versions from their 54mm Atlantis figures, but different sculpts altogether.

I'm still hoping that someone can resurrect the 54mm lines from the ashed of Soldierpac. Till then, I keep my eyes open for auctions online, or in boxes of odds and ends on tables at the shows.

Prost!
Brad
 
Hi All,

Good to see some interest insuch a memorable range. They also produced very nice Victorian carriages. I see similar carriages being offered by RPModels but surmise that these are done in toy soldier style.

I agree that a revival of this great range is way due past.

Rgds Victor
 
trooper said:
The Phoenix Follies range is now owned and marketed by Le Cimier in France. They are 80 or 90mm.
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theBaron said:
Hi, Raymond, if I may add to Trooper's answer, the Follies originated in Phoenix' catalog, sculpted by Tim Richards. He went on to sculpt a completely adult line--and I do mean completely adult--as Mascot Models.

The Follies were accompanied by larger "Lost World of Atlantis" figures in Phoenix' 80mm catalog. Those Atlantis figures weren't just scaled-up versions from their 54mm Atlantis figures, but different sculpts altogether.

I'm still hoping that someone can resurrect the 54mm lines from the ashed of Soldierpac. Till then, I keep my eyes open for auctions online, or in boxes of odds and ends on tables at the shows.

Prost!
Brad
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Alan and Brad,

Thanks very much for your helpful answers on Phoenix Follies.

I am not sure if these figures can be classified as toy soldiers, but I sometimes can't help being distracted by the ladies.

While searching the web, I found this rather interesting article (2004) on Russell and Mary Gammage of Rose Miniatures.

http://www.intonet.co.uk/~rblack/roshist.htm

Cheers, Raymond.:)
 
Raymond, thanks very much for that article! I've bookmarked it for future reference.

Prost!
Brad
 
Very nice, they certainly are Rose as they have the unique plinth type base, which, as it happens,was the only thing I did not like about them.
 
Grenadier1929 said:
Very nice, they certainly are Rose as they have the unique plinth type base, which, as it happens,was the only thing I did not like about them.
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That was something that threw me when I found castings that had a simple thin base, cast integrally with the figure, similar to the base on Imrie-Risley figures. I later learned that Gammage had also produced castings with an integral base, as well as the thicker, separate plinth.

I have a cache of castings from a gentleman who sold Rose here in the States, and some that I bought from a collector, and I'm gradually working through them. Some are Imperial German, with figures collected together to make color parties for all of the states of old Imperial Germany, plus some cavalry. The others are 18th century, the one French dragoon figure, cast to be mounted, and the generic dragoon of Prussia and her allies in the Seven Years War, also mounted. Eventually I'll finish them :)

Prost!
Brad
 
I am looking for a carriage in 54mm which can be used with a Highwayman diorama
Any ideas? Did Rose or others make.
Thanks
 
Well, M'Lud, Phoenix had 2 carriages in their catalog, albeit from the 19th century, so, a little late for a "Dennis Moore"-style scene, perhaps. But I don't know anything about the changes in design and style, so I don't know how difficult it would be to back-date them.

There was VC9, "19th Century 'Single' Brougham", which was available with either one or two horses, and VC10, "19th Century 'Hansom' Cab", drawn by a single horse (is it part of the definition of a Hansom cab that it's drawn by a single horse? I don't know). Phoenix also included a gig, VC14, and a carriage horse, VC15, though, I don't think that lends itself well to a highwayman scene, either.

Forty-Third, Ltd offer these Phoenix kits, produced today by S&D Models. They are listed in their catalog at the following webpage:

http://www.forty-third.co.uk/32_phoenix_victorian.htm

As far as I know, Mr. Gammage never had any carriages in his Rose Miniatures catalog, and the closest thing was his Egyptian war chariot, and I think he also included an ancient Briton war chariot. At least, I can find none in my Rose catalogs, but I don't have a complete set, so someone else might be able to tell us better.

Hope that helps, prosit!
Brad
 
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