Sd.Kfz.232 (8-Rad) Review (1 Viewer)

[Vezzolf]

While I understand this is a finer vehicle, is it possible to display with my K&C 232?

Sure, you can display it with K/C.....But.....It will be a very obvious mis-match in terms of realism.....Just a opinion from a shirtless Italian Stallion

 

[sammy719]

Sure, you can display it with K/C.....But.....It will be a very obvious mis-match in terms of realism.....Just a opinion from a shirtless Italian Stallion

not the shirtless Italian?? are you taking JohnGambles spot on the forum??...Sammy

 

[nmrocks]

Sure, you can display it with K/C.....But.....It will be a very obvious mis-match in terms of realism.....Just a opinion from a shirtless Italian Stallion

So Size wise it's OK? The Vehicles not the Italian

 

[Vezzolf]

More than OK....simply better

 

[Andanna]

Frank, I just re-read this again and just have to tell you how much I appreciate your work. The report and the photos are so well done that even after reading it multiple times, it is pure enjoyment. Thank you so much.

 

[Carl LaFong]

To quote Tomas Chory,

"...The available Army regulations and the RAL documents specified mainly matte colors for the contempory military vehicles. The preserved specimens of original vehicle parts and equipment show that completely matte colors were quite rare. Most of the colors were semi-matte and some even high gloss. Today it is difficult to ascertain if this was caused by a shortage of matting agents or by other reasons...."

There seems to be some truth to Chory's position.

When you examine a new vehicle such as this Stug it is definitely not painted with a full matte paint.

I realize that the 840-HR register is not the 840-R register used during the war and that they are likely not a perfect spectographic match but I have found no reason to believe that hues for surviving colors have been altered so signifcantly that they can no longer provide insite into what the color looked like. That would really negate the point of creating a standard. In addition where it is possible to compare to surviving pieces of equipment the colors do seem consistent. Many colors of interest such as 7028 and 8020 were discontinued so the new register is of no help for many of the wartime colors but others such as 6003 and 8017 have survived.

Now what the various paint manufacturers did with the standards is another discussion.

You can't cross-reference colors from the wartime 840 R with the HR, K5 or RAL Classic registers with any degree of accuracy. Some time ago, I found an complete RAL 840 L register, dated 1941, posted on a website. It has all of the original colors which were listed in the Genormte Anstriche found in Chory's book; so, it can be used in place of RAL 840 R.

This is a page showing the 40 colors in the book:

Here is a link to the complete chart.

 

[Blowtorch]

It's great to have access to the originals, but RGB comparisons ain't so hot either. I can arrange to have each chip spectrophotometrically measured for free if you know the owner & he agrees.

Impressive that you dug up this old thread!!

 

[Blowtorch]

Hi Carl, I just had a close look at your link & unfortunately the 46/7021 panzergrau color is missing. Too bad. I would still have the colors measured anyway a) 8000 is there ! S-W-E-E-T & b) I measured the 1-40 colors from another persons collection in 2010. Measuring a second set would give us an idea as to how well the colors are holding up over time.

 

[Blowtorch]

I can arrange to have each chip spectrophotometrically measured for free if you know the owner & he agrees.

The crickets are deafening

 

[bradleyl30]

Am I the only one who wonders why or wishes that First legion would produce a Sd. Kfz. 231 8-rad companion to the Sd. Kfz. 232 8-rad? Seems like an easy way to extend their product selection.

 

[Blowtorch]

Am I the only one who wonders why or wishes that First legion would produce a Sd. Kfz. 231 8-rad companion to the Sd. Kfz. 232 8-rad? Seems like an easy way to extend their product selection.

you'd have to tell me what the difference is first {sm4}

 

[bradleyl30]

you'd have to tell me what the difference is first {sm4}

the 232 was the long range radio version with the bedstand antenna. The 231 was just the recon vehicle itself. In a heavy platoon/squadron you would have 4 231s and 2 232s on paper.

 

[Blowtorch]

the 232 was the long range radio version with the bedstand antenna. The 231 was just the recon vehicle itself. In a heavy platoon/squadron you would have 4 231s and 2 232s on paper.

Oh then yes, that would definitely be nice.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Just take the antennae off of the 232 and visually you have a 231.

Terry

 

[bradleyl30]

Just take the antennae off of the 232 and visually you have a 231.

Terry

That was my first thought.

The problem is that part of the antenna is still fixed to the top of the turret.

So, I would need to spend another $300 and cut it off myself. Not sure I am that interested in it, but have played with the idea.