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Currahee Chris

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Took my wife and kids to see this movie over the weekend- my daughter loves horses so it was a perfect fit. While obviously not a war movie, we all loved it immensely- I had no idea that horse was that dominant- two of his records still stand today!!

ESPN ranked him in the top 100 sports athletes of all time. ESPN also rated his win at Belmont as the second greatest sporting achievement- behind only Wilt's 100 point game.

Anyway, highly recommend this for a family movie.
 
I think this is a Disney production...almost all of there stuff is pretty good and family oriented...I'm anxious to see it...

you might also try "Dreamer" and "Seabiscuit" (7 Academy Awards nominations) if she likes horse movies...both are excellent inspiring feel good movies...
 
If I remember correctly, there was an Australian film called "Phar Lap", about an Australian race horse, done some 20+ years ago. It was an excellent film. -- Al
 
Took my wife and kids to see this movie over the weekend- my daughter loves horses so it was a perfect fit. While obviously not a war movie, we all loved it immensely- I had no idea that horse was that dominant- two of his records still stand today!!

ESPN ranked him in the top 100 sports athletes of all time. ESPN also rated his win at Belmont as the second greatest sporting achievement- behind only Wilt's 100 point game.

Anyway, highly recommend this for a family movie.
Needless to say, this is a must see for me. In addition to my substantial horse connections, I saw the Belmont broadcast as a kid and even at that age was among the millions in total awe of his dominance. There never has been and may not ever be again a race horse of his caliber.:cool:
 
Horse racing for me was always something I tended to steer clear of- I just sort of saw it as people manipulating animals for money and greed. As I have gotten older, I see it now for the appreciation of the animals and real love of them. There was a racehorse near here- Maryland area- a few years ago who suffered a hairline fracture or some such injury and couldn't run competitively again. Eventually, he had to be put down which was really sad. The special I saw on him showed how much money the owners paid to have him repaired and operated on- even when the vets said there wasn't much hope, they still forked over the money because they loved him so much.

I guess I like to think I can empathize with these animals- I love to go for a run and cut it loose till it feels like my lungs are going to burst (ie- trying to keep a 10 minute mile pace :D:D) or go to the gym and get lost for a couple hours tearing up some iron. My back goes out and I can't move and it just breaks my heart. I just see these animals as creatures who love human companionship and love being able to run free and am just awestruck by that. The scene at the end where Secretariat just blows the field away by 30+ lengths is really inspirational. It was calculated that he ran a little over 1.5 miles at a 37.5 mph pace!!
 
Horse racing for me was always something I tended to steer clear of- I just sort of saw it as people manipulating animals for money and greed. As I have gotten older, I see it now for the appreciation of the animals and real love of them. There was a racehorse near here- Maryland area- a few years ago who suffered a hairline fracture or some such injury and couldn't run competitively again. Eventually, he had to be put down which was really sad. The special I saw on him showed how much money the owners paid to have him repaired and operated on- even when the vets said there wasn't much hope, they still forked over the money because they loved him so much.

I guess I like to think I can empathize with these animals- I love to go for a run and cut it loose till it feels like my lungs are going to burst (ie- trying to keep a 10 minute mile pace :D:D) or go to the gym and get lost for a couple hours tearing up some iron. My back goes out and I can't move and it just breaks my heart. I just see these animals as creatures who love human companionship and love being able to run free and am just awestruck by that. The scene at the end where Secretariat just blows the field away by 30+ lengths is really inspirational. It was calculated that he ran a little over 1.5 miles at a 37.5 mph pace!!
Well we could have a long conversation about horse racing, especially flat racing in this country. The short version is that the Thoroughbred is bred to love running and for most that make it to the track, it is indeed a joy. The industry itself is a mixed bag. Suffice it to say, there a good owners and trainers, like those for the tragic Barbaro whom you mentioned and sadly many not so good owners and trainers. (Interestingly, Barbaro was trained by Michael Matts, an ex champion show jumper and hero of a plane crash where his risked his life to save two kids. He is indeed a class act.) The biggest problem with racing is that the horses start too young. Their bones are still growing at that age and hence correspondingly more fragile. European race horses actually start later in recognition of that. For our horse sports, we don't even begin riding our horses until they are 3 and then they get light work with no jumping until they are 4 or 5. There have been many proposals to change the triple crown to 4 year olds, which would change the industry but there is just too much resistance so to some extent, you are right about the greed and manipulation here. Again though, the good trainers do everything they can to protect their charges and most end up with second careers as sport horses. We have had a number ourselves.
 
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Barbaro!!! Thank you for reminding me- yes, he was a beautiful animal indeed.

Bill- thank you for that excellent insight- perhaps some day we can sit down and discuss it in length- horse racing has really grown on me- not for the money or betting- just the love of the animals.
 
Barbaro!!! Thank you for reminding me- yes, he was a beautiful animal indeed.

Bill- thank you for that excellent insight- perhaps some day we can sit down and discuss it in length- horse racing has really grown on me- not for the money or betting- just the love of the animals.
Yes he was and since he was the best conditioned horse that year it was simply bad luck and his age that caused that accident. Absent that, I would say it was a very likely triple crown winner.

To me, the love of the animals is definitely what it is all about. They are remarkably intelligent and giving creatures; I remain amazed that they do what all we ask them too. Part of it is their simple joy in human interaction and for specific sports, like jumping, they also just love to do it. Any time you want to talk horses Chris, I am more than happy to oblige.:cool::D
 
I want to see this movie too as I love horses also.They are beautiful animals.When I was younger there was another horse that caught the public's eye and also had to be put down.I can't remember the name either.
Mark
 
Growing up in Horse Country, Maryland (never an owner, just close proximity), racing has always and still does hold a special place in my heart. I still continue with 4 finish line seats annually for the Preakness (2nd leg of the Crown). It is a spectacular day for sure, the majestic scene of the horses is something to behold live.

That said, I only knew about Secretariat from books and video (I was born in 1973), but I know one thing, every year when I re-watch his run for the Crown, it is magnificent. His victory at Belmont will NEVER (I feel confident) be equaled. He was the class of the field and that run is a thing of beauty. His owner is something else too, what a story. Check out www.secretariat.com it is still maintained to this day and there are all kind of goodies there.

As I grew up by 1979, there was a Maryland horse owned by the Meyerhoff family named Spectacular Bid. He was local and he was good, we thought here in Maryland we had another Triple Crown winner to follow 1977 and 1978's Seattle Slew and Affirmed respectively. The Bid may have been even better than the rest, a often quote attributed to Specatcular was - "The greatest racehorse to ever look through the bridle" or something like that. Alas, he won the Derby, blew out the Preakness and it was all over, the fat lady was singing, Belmont was a sure thing. Greatness was upon us.................the morning of the Belmont, The Bid caught a nail in his hoof and trouble started. His young inexperienced jockey starting losing it. His cool headed trainier "fixed" him up and the nerves were pounding. The Bid broke at the start and never looked back until the end, the jockey broke him too soon, the distance of the race caught up and we were without a Triple Crown and a watershed of sadness in Maryland. It is still debated hotly here til this day. As much as Secretariat is respected, Maryland remembers the Bid fondly and sadly as to what could have been. He actually went on as a 4 year old to start 9 races and win 9 races, undefeated, his last race was a walkover, where he retired with a jog (an honor) to victory. Re-watching his Belmont still brings a tear to the eyes here. As a 6 year old, I thought someone died in the family by all of the reactions that day.

Anyhow, back to the topic, sorry for the digression, but horse racing is a magical sport, yes there are the unscrupulous, but for the most part, it is an enjoyable pastime with magnificent animals.

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Thanks so much for the link- my daughter and I will be all over that this weekend!! :) Interesting story that you shared as well.
 

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