Sgt. Ewart-Capture of 45ths colors set (1 Viewer)

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Am I the only one who noticed that the Sgt. Ewart capture of the the 45th,s color set comes with 3rd of the line figures and not 45th of the line?
If you look at the shakos the shako plate it has a 3 not a 45 ????:confused: and all the new grenadiers are also 3rd line troops like the first grenadier releases and I thought that they were going to be 45th line to go with the scotts and the waterloo sgt. Ewart and the charge of the greys?
 
I just looked at my set and did notice that it did say 3 not 45. I find that just a bit weird...
 
The 3rd line reg. also fought at waterloo but were part of the 2nd corps under general Reille. The 45 were part of D,erlons corps. The other reg. to lose there colors in that charge where the 105th. I think Andy got a little mixed up or just didn,t care.:p Oh well! They still look good and no one but me even noticed so who cares right????
 
I agree the figures look great and I will be buying a lot of them. Not only is it the wrong regiment, but they are wearing the wrong uniform for 1815. The French line infantry would be wearing the habit-veste by the time of Waterloo.

King’s Man
 
I guess it's too late to care now...they are very nice but truthfully I don't want this to be a trend, I pay alot of money for these figures and my expectation is that they are accurate or close to it. I know nothing is perfect but in my mind those two things that you have mentioned are are fairly big.

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If you look at the shakos the shako plate it has a 3 not a 45 ?

I looked at my guys and the only one with a number (3) on his shako is the fellow defending with bayonet. The other fella's, the one who is wounded and lying on the ground, has no number on it.

I am somewhat neutral on the subject of accuracy in this situation, but it would be better if they were and not that they aren't. Make sense? It does to me...:rolleyes:
 
I noticed the uniform was wrong for 1815 but never bothered to look at the shako plate.Still the 2 figures are usefull and will blend with the previous and upcoming Grenadier figures so I suppose I can forgive them.I have plenty of Frenchmen for the Greys to run over.
Maybe they thought no one would notice?They just wanted the new figures to be compatiible with the older ones for the Peninsula theme?
Will someone make 1812-15 Frenchmen in campaign dress?
HMMMMMM?

FubAr
 
Please take a look at the new 1st Gear/W.Britain figures for the assault on Hougoumont. These are some of the light troops and they are in the style of uniforms I think you are looking for. There will be more coming including line infantry, grenadiers, ect.
I suppose the problem is that many great Victorian paintings generally show the earlier uniforms. I suppose this might be that they had access to the Otto Manuscript or the plates by Aaron Martinet, and although they are a primary resource...they are not really representative of the 100 days army. The Vernet plates are the ones that I generally refer to as this covers the 1812 uniform. With that stated, I also trust Dennis Deighton's paintings and drawings and he often shows a mix, or some earlier details like old pattern shako plates, but used without cords and tassels and the newer worsted tuft rather than a feather plume. I am pretty sure that some of this would be correct.
To add to that I am sure that during the 100 days there was a strange assembly of uniforms!
For your information, I might also note that when a Paul Hermans shop earlier this year we put some of our new prototypes in among some of the K&C French he stocked to see how they mixed. In general I think that many of the K&C Napoleonics I looked at were a chunky 1/32 rather than a true 1/30, and the most noteworthy difference was that the K&C heads and shakos were larger. I have looked at many surviving French shakos from this period and even handled a couple in private collections, so this is why I sculpted the proportion and size that appears on the new W.Britain figures.
I hope this might help...Ken
 
I read stories about the 1815 campaign joking how no 2 soldiers in some units were dressed alike. And soildiers on campaign did not look anything like what these toy soldiers do! They were rag tag units all ripped up worn out and dirty and made do with what they could. The british army in the peninsular war had all kinds of different shoes and pants and even coats at times and the red dye would bleed into their white pants turning them pink.

I would like to see a bit more of the rag tag look in future napoleonics. With more great coats and blankets over their shoulders. They would do this in battle to help protect against sabor blows.
 
I read stories about the 1815 campaign joking how no 2 soldiers in some units were dressed alike. And soildiers on campaign did not look anything like what these toy soldiers do! They were rag tag units all ripped up worn out and dirty and made do with what they could. The british army in the peninsular war had all kinds of different shoes and pants and even coats at times and the red dye would bleed into their white pants turning them pink.

I would like to see a bit more of the rag tag look in future napoleonics. With more great coats and blankets over their shoulders. They would do this in battle to help protect against sabor blows.

I would agree with the above statement. Realism sells well for the WW II figures, why not for the Napoleonic line too. Most of the collectors purchasing these figures are knowledgeable about the era that they collecting. I consider myself first a history lover, then a toy solder collector.

I can think of no better uniform guide for the French Napoleonic armies then the Rousselot Uniform Plates.
 
A second thought on K&C's use of realism.

The new Mexican Alamo figures are full of interesting details, knee patches, sandals, and torn pants.


King’s Man
 
A second thought on K&C's use of realism.

The new Mexican Alamo figures are full of interesting details, knee patches, sandals, and torn pants.


King’s Man

I like the new mexicans also and was almost tempted into another line. The only figure that I think should have been resculpted is the mexican kneeling down firing. His head is to far forward on his body and the firure looks very unatural and drives me crazy every time I look at it. With some other companies or plastic figures(plastic figures well know for weird firing postions) I,d let it slide but its way out of place for a K&C figure.
 

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