Silliest scene in a war movie (1 Viewer)

[larso]

My title might be a bit awkward but I'm thinking of those scenes in war films that just defy logic. When someone does something that makes no sense at all and has you thinking 'rubbish' (or some such word).

The one that comes to mind for me is the scene in 'The Big Red One' when Lee Marvin and squad happen across a heap of German casualties and knocked out tank. It turns out most of the Germans are simply lying 'dogo' with the intention of trapping and killing Marvin and men. It falls apart when Marvin climbs into the tank and realizes two of the 'dead' are wearing different (SS?) uniforms and knows something is amiss. He springs the trap and the other Germans spring up to conveniently run in front of the tank's MG for Marvin to gun down.

What an overly complicated trap! If those Germans had just laid a normal ambush they'd have won it easily, as they outnumbered the Americans 3- 1 (or there-abouts). It's strange because it is otherwise a pretty good film. Marvin of course was actually a Pacific marine. I think too, the director had been an infantryman in Europe. I seem to remember a military observer on the film objected to a prisoner shooting scene, but the director replied he'd seen such things with his own eyes!

Any other scenes that have driven you crazy??

 

[Jack]

My title might be a bit awkward but I'm thinking of those scenes in war films that just defy logic. When someone does something that makes no sense at all and has you thinking 'rubbish' (or some such word).

The one that comes to mind for me is the scene in 'The Big Red One' when Lee Marvin and squad happen across a heap of German casualties and knocked out tank. It turns out most of the Germans are simply lying 'dogo' with the intention of trapping and killing Marvin and men. It falls apart when Marvin climbs into the tank and realizes two of the 'dead' are wearing different (SS?) uniforms and knows something is amiss. He springs the trap and the other Germans spring up to conveniently run in front of the tank's MG for Marvin to gun down.

What an overly complicated trap! If those Germans had just laid a normal ambush they'd have won it easily, as they outnumbered the Americans 3- 1 (or there-abouts). It's strange because it is otherwise a pretty good film. Marvin of course was actually a Pacific marine. I think too, the director had been an infantryman in Europe. I seem to remember a military observer on the film objected to a prisoner shooting scene, but the director replied he'd seen such things with his own eyes!

Any other scenes that have driven you crazy??

Saving Private Ryan - hanging around to die with the man who didn't want to be rescued.

 

[Obee]

It would have to be FURY...

One Sherman taking on the whole German Army and winning .... RUBBISH!!!

But I did like the battle scenes inside the tanks, and seeing the TIGER blow up the other Shermans

John

 

[larso]

"One Sherman taking on the whole German Army and winning .... RUBBISH!!!"

Yes, that particular SS battalion must've been recruited from a particularly unenthusiastic and incompetent Volksdeutsche community.

 

[farmertony]

It would have to be FURY...

One Sherman taking on the whole German Army and winning .... RUBBISH!!!

But I did like the battle scenes inside the tanks, and seeing the TIGER blow up the other Shermans

John

And not only that,one in three of those Germans was carrying a Panzarfaust any one of which could have destroyed a disabled Sherman easily.There was a very realistic movie made in the 1960's called "The Bridge" in which a group of German boys,with only two days training,attempt to defend a bridge,and one of them takes out a Sherman.

 

[wayne556517]

It would have to be FURY...

One Sherman taking on the whole German Army and winning .... RUBBISH!!!

But I did like the battle scenes inside the tanks, and seeing the TIGER blow up the other Shermans

John

And after 2 potato mashers where thrown in the turret Mr arm Pitt still had nice hair,and this bloke had time to fashion his "regulation ^&grin" facial hair.

Again Hollywood ruined a great movie with 2 much BS !!

Really annoyed me and a few others i have spoken to how with little things they ruined what could of been a classic.

 

[larso]

"There was a very realistic movie made in the 1960's called "The Bridge" in which a group of German boys,with only two days training,attempt to defend a bridge,and one of them takes out a Sherman."

I saw that too. I think it conveyed that with all their Hitler Youth training they were militarily aware to say the least. Apparently field craft - camoflaging etc was a skill many boys had. If I recall correctly, the director of that film based the events on an experience he himself had as a boy.

I also remember seeing an interview with a US tanker. They were hit by some Hitler Youth, who promptly jumped up and down celebrating - they were boys afterall. The tank wasn't knocked out though, it was only the running gear that was hit and they had no choice but to machine-gun those boys before they could fire again. It's such a chilling story. I really felt for that guy and those boys....

 

[nysoldiers]

In the George C. Scott movie Patton, the German armor were all American tanks with German markings. And they might have been post WWII American tanks as well.

 

[larso]

I've always been annoyed by Fort Apache. The Henry Fonda character is completely obnoxious but the business with charging the valley where the Apaches were all hidden was just ridiculous. Then I think the cavalry survivors are all ridden down in a final attack. None of it made sense but I did read that Fonda's character was somewhat based on Custer and even though many details were different, Custer basically did the same thing and suffered the same fate.

 

[RPZ]

In the George C. Scott movie Patton, the German armor were all American tanks with German markings. And they might have been post WWII American tanks as well.

They were Spanish military M-48s I believe; all that was available in the region the battle was filmed. Better than CGI in my opinion. And a great film I might add, given the few instances of "artistic licence" for some scenes.

 

[Mirof]

"There was a very realistic movie made in the 1960's called "The Bridge" in which a group of German boys,with only two days training,attempt to defend a bridge,and one of them takes out a Sherman."

I saw that too. I think it conveyed that with all their Hitler Youth training they were militarily aware to say the least. Apparently field craft - camoflaging etc was a skill many boys had. If I recall correctly, the director of that film based the events on an experience he himself had as a boy.

I also remember seeing an interview with a US tanker. They were hit by some Hitler Youth, who promptly jumped up and down celebrating - they were boys afterall. The tank wasn't knocked out though, it was only the running gear that was hit and they had no choice but to machine-gun those boys before they could fire again. It's such a chilling story. I really felt for that guy and those boys....

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