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I had occasion today to note what a big deal St. Pats has become. I can't remember everyone and their brother getting into the spirit. Like Halloween its become some kind of ersatz adult holiday. Irish music is either very good or plain awful. There seems to be no middle ground. And how many depressing songs can there be about men getting their legs blown off during the war? A main stay of Irish songs.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/happy-st-patricks-day-heres-a-look-at-the-geography-of-the-irish-in-america/

How Irish is America circa St. Patrick’s Day 2015? By one measure, even more Irish than Ireland. “According to the Census, there are 34.5
million Americans who list their heritage as either primarily or partially Irish. That number is, incidentally, seven times larger than the population
of Ireland itself (4.68 million). Irish is the second-most common ancestry among Americans, falling just behind German. New York has the
most concentrated Irish population; 12.9 percent of its residents claim Irish ancestry, which compares to a rate of 11.1 percent of the country overall. Boston, meanwhile, claims the most-concentrated Irish population for a city: 20.4 percent. ‘Irish-Americans are at least 5 percent of the
population in most counties across the U.S., and 10 percent or more in most of New England, New York state, New Jersey, eastern Pennsylvania,
and other smaller counties across the country.’”
 
I had occasion today to note what a big deal St. Pats has become. I can't remember everyone and their brother getting into the spirit. Like Halloween its become some kind of ersatz adult holiday. Irish music is either very good or plain awful. There seems to be no middle ground. And how many depressing songs can there be about men getting their legs blown off during the war? A main stay of Irish songs.

"Everyone's Irish for a day!!!"............Yeah, I don't think so, the only green on me today was the dead presidents in my wallet. Today has become like New Years Eve; amateur hour at it's finest, another excuse to get smashed and act like a moron.

Awesome.
 
I ate a corned beef sandwich today...that's about as close as i can correlate my day to even being aware it was St. Patrick's Day...
 
Being of Irish decent, my grandfather came out to Australia in the 1890's, and having the name O"BRIEN, I always try to do something to keep in touch with my ancestry.

This year, while my wife was out in the afternoon, I cooked an Irish Stew, and we enjoyed my culinary creation with a couple of Guinness :)

Cheers

John
 
I had occasion today to note what a big deal St. Pats has become. I can't remember everyone and their brother getting into the spirit. Like Halloween its become some kind of ersatz adult holiday. Irish music is either very good or plain awful. There seems to be no middle ground. And how many depressing songs can there be about men getting their legs blown off during the war? A main stay of Irish songs.

And as America goes, so goes the rest of the world, or Ireland, at least. Is it not true that until recently, the day was observed in Ireland more as a holy day, and not as a day for general drunken revelry, but that it has become more like the American observance, after our celebrations have been publicized and broadcast around the world?

I can see how the day meant more to the Irish immigrants here, even back in the 1700's, when the first parade was held in Boston. It was a way to show pride in their heritage, especially in a larger British culture (including here in the colonies) that disdained the Irish, at best, and suppressed them, at worst. The Italians seized on Columbus Day for much the same purpose, a celebration of their heritage.

What I find amusing is the bagpipes and kilts. Were they not a relatively late affectation in Irish history, under the Victorians? Of course, that brings me to the broader stylized celebration of "Celtic (with a k) culture", all the "Celtic" festivals held around the country, that to me, seem about authentically "Celtic" as Mr. Dunderbak's is authentically German.

Still, I lifted a couple of pints in honor of my Irish great-grandmother, Grammy Hodge. I celebrate that heritage, along with my German, Italian, and Welsh heritage. And then I celebrate the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, because that makes me an American.

Prost!
Brad
 
I ate a corned beef sandwich today...that's about as close as i can correlate my day to even being aware it was St. Patrick's Day...
That was my nod to the day, as well. My ancestors on my father's side came over out of County Cork in the mid-19th century, while my mother's side was Scandinavian. Typically American as a result. ^&grin -- Al
 
Oh, and isn't the corned beef tradition one that developed here, too, and is not authentically Irish? We ate it here, because it was cheap. I thought that in Ireland, it would be ham, or some other cut of pork.

Prost!
Brad
 
On a serious note, close to 200,000 Irish Americans fought in the Civil War for both the North and the South, many of whom died for their new country.

The famed Irish Brigade from the Army of the Potomac was made up of regiments from New York and Massachusetts, the 28th MA as a matter of fact.
 
There's a theory in our history, isn't there, that choice of allegiances, in the Revolutionary War and in the Civil War, can be found to correspond to old feuds and clan or national ties among the Celts in Britain, that were carried here with the immigrants.

Prost!
Brad
 
There's a theory in our history, isn't there, that choice of allegiances, in the Revolutionary War and in the Civil War, can be found to correspond to old feuds and clan or national ties among the Celts in Britain, that were carried here with the immigrants.

Prost!
Brad
There is a very interesting and controversial book called 'Attack and Die: Civil War Military Tactics and Southern Heritage", by McWhiney and Jamieson, that basically bases the Southern defeat on Celtic traits in the Southern army, ie., the trait of attacking as a military tactic in most situations. -- Al
 
Yeah, you could live in South Chicago or Southeast Los Angles.
Or Roxbury for that matter.

I was at the Southside Irish (Chicago) Parade this year. My brother live a half a block off South Western Ave. The parade is much smaller than it use to be. Do not believe the news there are many great places on the Southside of Chicago, but there are some areas you want to avoid.
 
Although Brad said corned beef might be an American thing, we're having corned beef and cabbage sometime this week. I envy Mike in Texas with his corned beef sandwich. Maui doesn't have good deli food at a good price. Deli meats are super expensive. Obee, what make Irish stew different from any regular stew and is Irish stew the same as Mulligan stew?
 
Although Brad said corned beef might be an American thing, we're having corned beef and cabbage sometime this week. I envy Mike in Texas with his corned beef sandwich. Maui doesn't have good deli food at a good price. Deli meats are super expensive. Obee, what make Irish stew different from any regular stew and is Irish stew the same as Mulligan stew?

Not sure Texas is the standard for an authentic Deli corned beef sandwhich {eek3} A good steak yes.

New York
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Harolds Deli, Edison New Jersey
 
Although Brad said corned beef might be an American thing, we're having corned beef and cabbage sometime this week. I envy Mike in Texas with his corned beef sandwich. Maui doesn't have good deli food at a good price. Deli meats are super expensive. Obee, what make Irish stew different from any regular stew and is Irish stew the same as Mulligan stew?

Shouldn't that be Spam, for those Sons of Hibernia who find themselves on those beautiful islands of yours? :D

Regarding the stews, Mulligan stew is a stew that hobos used to cook, and it's basically anything you have on hand. There are a couple of recipes for Irish stews, with different meats.

And of course, there's Stone Soup. "Soup from a stone, fancy that!"

Prost!
Brad
 
Shouldn't that be Spam, for those Sons of Hibernia who find themselves on those beautiful islands of yours? :D

Regarding the stews, Mulligan stew is a stew that hobos used to cook, and it's basically anything you have on hand. There are a couple of recipes for Irish stews, with different meats.

And of course, there's Stone Soup. "Soup from a stone, fancy that!"

Prost!
Brad

Spam is actually my favorite breakfast meats after bacon. The trick to good spam is to fry it crispy. We had a strong military presence during WWII and learned to love all kinds of canned food being poor field workers. Spam, Vienna sausage, corned beef, deviled ham, luncheon meat, sardines, I love them all.
"Sons of Hibernia"? That one went over my head. What does that mean?
Paul, now that's a sandwich! I had to look good to find the bread. How much does that cost?
 

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