Stug III Ausf.F/8 Review (1 Viewer)

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Packaging

The packaging for this piece matches the same high quality you see for the figures of the Stalingrad line with precision cut foam holding everything snugly in place. The often mentioned light weight of this piece plays a key role in ensuring a successful shipment as well since its inertia is lower than a comparable heavier piece. The vehicle, accessories and figures all arrived undamaged.

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Initial Impressions

My first impression of First Legion’s StuG III Ausf.F/8 was the fine detail which reminded me more of a professionally finished 1/35 model kit than the polystone vehicles with which we have all become familiar. The wheel and track detail in particular was very nice to see. As noted the piece is much lighter than comparable polystone piece yet I wouldn’t go so far as to say it felt as light as a plastic kit. Overall the build felt sturdy and it never felt fragile in my hands.

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Accuracy

This is another area where I look to FL to set the bar high and they did not disappoint. The vehicle being modeled is a StuG III Ausf.F/8. A total of 250 (Fgst. 91401 - 91650) of this model were produced at Alkett between 9/1942 and 12/1942. The F/8 is based on a newer chassis than the F, the 8.Serie/ZW (PzKpfw III Ausf.J). Since the armor supplier was behind schedule the majority of the F/8 batch were actually built on diverted PzKpfw III Ausf.L and Ausf.M hulls. The frontal armor had to be brought up to the 80mm specification by the addition of supplemental armor. Initially this was welded on but starting October 1942 it was bolted on as depicted in FL’s model. The new hull is readily identified by the two front towing holds shaped from the extended sidewalls of the chassis which FL has captured correctly. VEH001 has two antennas indicating a command vehicle (i.e. Battery commander). The unit emblem on the piece represents Stug.Abt.245 which is appropriate for Stalingrad.

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Colors

Now we enter an area that is more subjective than objective so the statements made here are strictly my opinion. The main color on VEH001 is somewhere in between grey and brownish tan. It almost certainly would have ended up in the 7000 range (grey) of the RAL register. It is too grey and brownish to be “Dunkelgelb nach Muster” and definitely represents an improvisation prior to the H.M. 1943, Nr. 181 regulation of Feb. 18, 1943 to improve the camouflage of vehicles serving in southern Russia. There are several pictures of light colored Stugs in the Stalingrad vicinity in 1942. Does the color FL has used accurately represent those light colored Stugs? It really isn’t possible to say so I will say the color as depicted is plausible.

The colors of the assault gun uniforms for the crew members look appropriate. The piping on the hat and shoulder boards appear to be the correct red (for artillery) although I had to look close. At first it looked pink to me.

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Weathering

Like the section on colors weathering is an area that is subjective. For me the weathering on VEH001 conveys dirty and faded. Overall I am satisfied with the weathering and don’t feel the vehicle looks too new. One effect that doesn’t appeal to me is the “rust” streaks. These don’t seem appropriate for an AFV.

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Insignia/Emblems/Markings

The insignia/emblems and markings are all nicely applied and are straight. The balkenkreuz have a little bit of weathering/dirt applied over top of them which is a nice touch. I feel the unit emblems could have used a similar treatment as they seem a tad too new looking.

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Scale

The size of my model rounded to the nearest millimeter is Length: 184mm, Width: 104mm, Height: 76mm. Using the Panzerworld web site as a source (http://www.panzerworld.net/stugiii) this translates into a scale of 1/28.7 (4.3% over scale). Now the important thing for me is how a model looks next to the figures it is being displayed with. In this regard I feel the FL figures look correctly proportioned relative to the vehicle. The slight over sizing is not sufficiently noticeable to detract from the overall look of the vehicle with the figures.

Conclusion

To say I am very happy with First Legion’s first foray into the AFV arena would be an understatement. The level of detail and the overall quality really raise the bar once again. Time will tell if the new materials and methods introduced with this piece represent a paradigm shift or simply a unique innovation. I for one prefer the new methods and materials. Considering the scrutiny this model has had to endure I think it has stood up very well. Is it perfect? No, few things are, but it is very, very good. I have to say I’m even more excited about the Sd.Kfz 232 now.
 
Yes, Frank, nice review, well written and excellent photos, as usual.
 
Frank,
Excellent review!

I especially agree with your initial impession paragraph. After listening to the forum discussion about how light this piece was, I was pleasantly surprised when I lifted it out of the box. It's not light, and your right, it's got a hefty feel and certainly does not feel like like a plastic model. Granted, it's not as heavy as polystone but you're not going to get this level of detail with polystone.

I was well pleased with this purchase. Money well spent!

Semper Fi!
Rick
 
Frank,
Excellent review!

I especially agree with your initial impession paragraph. After listening to the forum discussion about how light this piece was, I was pleasantly surprised when I lifted it out of the box. It's not light, and your right, it's got a hefty feel and certainly does not feel like like a plastic model. Granted, it's not as heavy as polystone but you're not going to get this level of detail with polystone.

I was well pleased with this purchase. Money well spent!

Semper Fi!
Rick


If you continue like that, Matt will have to hire you...EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT photos, you new lamp make a huge difference, clarity is wonderful
Just GREAT...
 
Frank, I don't know if I'm more impressed with your writing and photography skills or the FL Stug and figures themselves :eek:! What a fantastic review and outstanding looking set from FL. Your comprehensive contribution here has proved to be highly instrumental to me as I continue to "scout" FL's progress on AFV production. It's quite amazing that this is their first vehicle. It appears as if they've been at it quite literally for years. I really like the full figures, too. That is a fantastic idea by FL to include complete figures in their vehicle sets; I'd much prefer to pay for full figures that I could use in a variety of settings as opposed to partial figures.
Thanks again for the thoughtful, well-organized, and beautifully photographed review. If you keep this up, you better watch out...you may end up on FL's or TS&MF magazine's payroll! :p


Joe
 
Just a heads up for collectors interested in either one of the First Legion Stugs who haven't picked them up yet . It appears both VEH001 Sturmgeschuetz III Ausf. F/8 and VEH002 Sturmgeschuetz III Ausf. F mit Ostketten are both sold out of sock with a new batch arriving in late April . All the best gebhard
 
Frank- thanks for the review! I needed the input before i spent the money! I love FL, but the scale issue of the AFV puts me off a little.. I think i will just stick to the figures..
 
I will be recieving my new VEH 001 Stug by next week hopefully, I missed out on the first set of Stug releases so I'm one of the first in line for this release, I am looking forward to seeing this guy up close and personal, and will let you all what I think after it's inspection, if it's anything like the detail and craftmenship as the FL soldiers I have so far I'll be a happy guy...Sammy
 
I will be recieving my new VEH 001 Stug by next week hopefully, I missed out on the first set of Stug releases so I'm one of the first in line for this release, I am looking forward to seeing this guy up close and personal, and will let you all what I think after it's inspection, if it's anything like the detail and craftmenship as the FL soldiers I have so far I'll be a happy guy...Sammy

Sammy ,
I'm sure your gonna love it ;) It will look Perfect next to your figures , just remember its a lot lighter in terms of weight then what you have had in the past , so be careful not to drop it :D All the Best Gebhard
 
I will be recieving my new VEH 001 Stug by next week hopefully, I missed out on the first set of Stug releases so I'm one of the first in line for this release, I am looking forward to seeing this guy up close and personal, and will let you all what I think after it's inspection, if it's anything like the detail and craftmenship as the FL soldiers I have so far I'll be a happy guy...Sammy

have fun sammy.
i sure did with my Erika.;)
 
Packaging

The packaging for this piece matches the same high quality you see for the figures of the Stalingrad line with precision cut foam holding everything snugly in place. The often mentioned light weight of this piece plays a key role in ensuring a successful shipment as well since its inertia is lower than a comparable heavier piece. The vehicle, accessories and figures all arrived undamaged.

DSC_0280_small_20100116.jpg


DSC_0281_small_20100116.jpg


DSC_0283_small_20100116.jpg


Initial Impressions

My first impression of First Legion’s StuG III Ausf.F/8 was the fine detail which reminded me more of a professionally finished 1/35 model kit than the polystone vehicles with which we have all become familiar. The wheel and track detail in particular was very nice to see. As noted the piece is much lighter than comparable polystone piece yet I wouldn’t go so far as to say it felt as light as a plastic kit. Overall the build felt sturdy and it never felt fragile in my hands.

DSC_0287_small_20100116.jpg


Accuracy

This is another area where I look to FL to set the bar high and they did not disappoint. The vehicle being modeled is a StuG III Ausf.F/8. A total of 250 (Fgst. 91401 - 91650) of this model were produced at Alkett between 9/1942 and 12/1942. The F/8 is based on a newer chassis than the F, the 8.Serie/ZW (PzKpfw III Ausf.J). Since the armor supplier was behind schedule the majority of the F/8 batch were actually built on diverted PzKpfw III Ausf.L and Ausf.M hulls. The frontal armor had to be brought up to the 80mm specification by the addition of supplemental armor. Initially this was welded on but starting October 1942 it was bolted on as depicted in FL’s model. The new hull is readily identified by the two front towing holds shaped from the extended sidewalls of the chassis which FL has captured correctly. VEH001 has two antennas indicating a command vehicle (i.e. Battery commander). The unit emblem on the piece represents Stug.Abt.245 which is appropriate for Stalingrad.

DSC_0288_small_20100116.jpg


Colors

Now we enter an area that is more subjective than objective so the statements made here are strictly my opinion. The main color on VEH001 is somewhere in between grey and brownish tan. It almost certainly would have ended up in the 7000 range (grey) of the RAL register. It is too grey and brownish to be “Dunkelgelb nach Muster” and definitely represents an improvisation prior to the H.M. 1943, Nr. 181 regulation of Feb. 18, 1943 to improve the camouflage of vehicles serving in southern Russia. There are several pictures of light colored Stugs in the Stalingrad vicinity in 1942. Does the color FL has used accurately represent those light colored Stugs? It really isn’t possible to say so I will say the color as depicted is plausible.

The colors of the assault gun uniforms for the crew members look appropriate. The piping on the hat and shoulder boards appear to be the correct red (for artillery) although I had to look close. At first it looked pink to me.

DSC_0290_small_20100116.jpg


Weathering

Like the section on colors weathering is an area that is subjective. For me the weathering on VEH001 conveys dirty and faded. Overall I am satisfied with the weathering and don’t feel the vehicle looks too new. One effect that doesn’t appeal to me is the “rust” streaks. These don’t seem appropriate for an AFV.

DSC_0298_small_20100116.jpg


Insignia/Emblems/Markings

The insignia/emblems and markings are all nicely applied and are straight. The balkenkreuz have a little bit of weathering/dirt applied over top of them which is a nice touch. I feel the unit emblems could have used a similar treatment as they seem a tad too new looking.

DSC_0291_small_20100116.jpg


Scale

The size of my model rounded to the nearest millimeter is Length: 184mm, Width: 104mm, Height: 76mm. Using the Panzerworld web site as a source (http://www.panzerworld.net/stugiii) this translates into a scale of 1/28.7 (4.3% over scale). Now the important thing for me is how a model looks next to the figures it is being displayed with. In this regard I feel the FL figures look correctly proportioned relative to the vehicle. The slight over sizing is not sufficiently noticeable to detract from the overall look of the vehicle with the figures.

Conclusion

To say I am very happy with First Legion’s first foray into the AFV arena would be an understatement. The level of detail and the overall quality really raise the bar once again. Time will tell if the new materials and methods introduced with this piece represent a paradigm shift or simply a unique innovation. I for one prefer the new methods and materials. Considering the scrutiny this model has had to endure I think it has stood up very well. Is it perfect? No, few things are, but it is very, very good. I have to say I’m even more excited about the Sd.Kfz 232 now.


This is one of the best reviews of a product that I have read on the forum.

It is a pleasure to read as it very well structured and superbly illustrated.

Thanks, Raymond.:)

**
 
Outstanding review. That is one incredible replica, as have been all of FL's German armour to date. I especially like the Pz.III and 8 wheeled armoured car. I want those so bad! Maybe if I cry hard and loud enough and stamp my feet like my children do when they want something my spouse will relent and let me purchase one! :D
 
Outstanding review. That is one incredible replica, as have been all of FL's German armour to date. I especially like the Pz.III and 8 wheeled armoured car. I want those so bad! Maybe if I cry hard and loud enough and stamp my feet like my children do when they want something my spouse will relent and let me purchase one! :D


Don't wait to long Cyber to make a choice, the 8 wheel vehicle is on it's last run, after this lot sells out, it will be retired as I am told, I just picked up my stug last week, and if you think the pics are bad *** you should see them in person, I'm looking forward to getting the recon vehicle as well...Sammy
 
If I did AFVs, these would be must haves I think. Fortunately for me, I do not, so that leaves much more room for those Napoleonic regimental formations.:cool: Now if I can just convince the wife of that budgetary logic.:rolleyes::D
 

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