Supreme Court Rules in Internet Sales Tax Case (1 Viewer)

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As I hail from TX, the decision will add many hundreds of dollars to my annual TS-bill.:redface2:

BTW, I find the breakdown of votes in the 5-4 decision to be fascinating. The outcome doesn't appear to be as wedded to ideology as is typically the case. Perhaps this was a case of brick-and-mortar shoppers prevailing over a minority of online-shopping fans.:wink2:

-Moe
 
As a long term observer of the Court, the breakdown of the votes seem fairly typical except that RBG voted with the majority. The CJ is moderate so his dissent is not all that surprising. Justice Kennedy is the swing vote in the SC and we seem acting that way again.
 
This decision is a gigantic earthquake on the retail industry in the US, and will have ripple effects on many other retail markets in the world. Yes, our TS will get more expensive :redface2::mad::mad:
 
has anyone else received this email from Ebay...

or is it spam?

they are asking for an electronic signature...
not asking for any other information...

eBay <eBay@reply1.ebay.com>


It's time to tell Congress to protect small businesses.

Dear Michael,
The U.S. Supreme Court has announced their decision on the S. Dakota v. Wayfair case, overturning the long-standing rule that states could not tax businesses or sellers outside of that state's borders. Now is the time for Congress to act on legislation that protects small businesses.

And we need your help.
We are asking you to join us and digitally sign our petition to show our political leaders that you stand against new Internet tax burdens that could permanently damage U.S. small businesses like yours. The petition takes less than a minute to complete. We will soon be delivering this petition to President Trump, key members of Congress, and select state governors so we need you to participate now.

eBay has always supported tax policy that is fair to entrepreneurs, artisans, and small businesses. Rest assured that eBay will continue to fight this battle on your behalf!

Sincerely,

eBay
 
Usually, if I get an email from eBay, it also shows up in my eBay messages. I haven't received anything all. It's possible it's legit since they used your name. You could always call ebay to ask them.
 
jazzeum said:
Usually, if I get an email from eBay, it also shows up in my eBay messages. I haven't received anything all. It's possible it's legit since they used your name. You could always call ebay to ask them.
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yea...maybe...I'm gonna wait a few days and see if anyone else gets one of if they send one to my Ebay messages...

if it's spam...it's in a timely disguise...^&grin...thanks for the input...

I would like to sign it...but will wait a few days for confirmation...
 
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mikemiller1955 said:
has anyone else received this email from Ebay...

or is it spam?

they are asking for an electronic signature...
not asking for any other information...

eBay <eBay@reply1.ebay.com>


It's time to tell Congress to protect small businesses.

Dear Michael,
The U.S. Supreme Court has announced their decision on the S. Dakota v. Wayfair case, overturning the long-standing rule that states could not tax businesses or sellers outside of that state's borders. Now is the time for Congress to act on legislation that protects small businesses.

And we need your help.
We are asking you to join us and digitally sign our petition to show our political leaders that you stand against new Internet tax burdens that could permanently damage U.S. small businesses like yours. The petition takes less than a minute to complete. We will soon be delivering this petition to President Trump, key members of Congress, and select state governors so we need you to participate now.

eBay has always supported tax policy that is fair to entrepreneurs, artisans, and small businesses. Rest assured that eBay will continue to fight this battle on your behalf!

Sincerely,

eBay
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I received it Mike . . . . Haven't opened it yet . . . .
:smile2: Mike
 
actually when I logged into Ebay this morning...there was one in my messages from Ebay...so it's not spam...
 
From the New York Times Dealbook Briefing:

Who’s hurt by new e-commerce sales taxes? Not Amazon

The Supreme Court ruled yesterday that states can collect taxes on e-commerce sales, even from retailers with no presence in their jurisdictions.

The WSJ reports that state tax officials are already revving their engines, and may act within weeks. President Trump, who has criticized Amazon for dominating e-commerce and eroding American jobs, tweeted support for the ruling.

It sounds like bad news for online retailers, and stock prices dropped at many of them. But small retailers are likely to suffer more than giants like Amazon, as are consumers.

Buyers in states with high sales taxes, Jessica Melugin of the Competitive Enterprise Institute argues in an NYT Op-Ed, are losing the option to “vote with their wallets” by choosing online retailers based elsewhere: "It is the online equivalent of the gas station attendant calculating your tax based on where you live, not where you are pumping gas."

And Bloomberg Opinion’s Sarah Halzack explains why Amazon has little to fear: "Increasingly, Amazon’s value proposition to shoppers is as much — if not more — about its vast selection and its speedy delivery than it is about rock-bottom prices. This decision does nothing to alter the convenience of shopping at Amazon, meaning it leaves Amazon’s most important advantage intact."
 
Trump touts is "massive"tax break but supports a ruling that will cost taxpayers a lot of money. "TWO-FACED"!:mad::mad::mad:
Mark
 
Traditional retail=dinosaur.

Things evolve all the time, cars put horse and buggy sellers out of business, cell phones put people who owned pay phones out of business, online retailers put tradional store front owner out of business, that's what happens when things evolve. The way people shop these days has changed, it's up to the brick storefront owners to adapt and have websites, why should their lack of evolving hurt me?

It's backward *** thinking; the whole "Amazon is putting the mom and pop stores in Anytown USA out of business and we're losing jobs as a result" argument is idiotic; do you know how many people Amazon employs between customer service reps and order pickers in their distribution centers? Just a moronic way of thinking.

I'll be interested to see what the threshold is, ie, "Any gross sales over X amount need to be charged sales tax", similar to Ebay where they send you a 1099 and you have to pay income tax on any sales over 20K.

This hurts consumers and ECommerce business owners and helps mom and pop shop owners; great, so whack two huge segments to help out an ever shrinking one.

I'll reach out to my accountant and see what he has to say...…………..
 
The last time we heard about this the ceiling was one million in sales. Under that you were excempt. I should have that problem.
 
Toy Soldier Brigade said:
The last time we heard about this the ceiling was one million in sales. Under that you were excempt. I should have that problem.
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When will the ceiling be verified...………..time will tell...…………..just another hassle for a small business owner to have to deal with.

Like I don't have enough of them on my plate as it is.
 
Warrior said:
When will the ceiling be verified...………..time will tell...…………..just another hassle for a small business owner to have to deal with.

Like I don't have enough of them on my plate as it is.
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It’s a state by state matter and there may not be uniformity.
 
I just watched a story on FOXBusiness . The expert they interviewed said that the ceiling is a hundred grand per state except your home state. So it may actually help small business. I also couldn't agree more about the brick and mortar stores. They should have seen this coming. It's still more convenient to shop on line. You save time, gas, and don't have to look for parking or deal with crowds. I saw a study that most malls will gone in the next fifteen years. All that will be left are the big box stores, grocery stores, and liquor stores. Ecommerce is not going anywhere.
 
See Decision Will Hurt Online Shopping.

The article states, in part that

This ruling subjects small internet-based businesses to “taxation without representation.” The seller must now calculate, collect and remit sales taxes to whichever state a buyer lives in, including those in which the seller has no stores or employees and no voting power or political voice. Online businesses will now be responsible for adhering to this compliance burden and could be audited as a result.​
 
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