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So I'm planning on making my way over to San Antonio for the May29th-30th Texas Toy Soldier Show in the Menger Hotel.

Since I'm new to the hobby, and this will be my first show, I'm not quite sure what to expect, and was wanting to get some advice from some of the veterans on the board.

Are there deals at the show, or are the prices the same as you would pay via Internet or regular stores?

How much money should I plan on spending? (Guess this might be a relative question).

Best time to arrive?

Is there a mall or anything close by that I can send my girlfriend to, I'm sure after 20 min. of toy soldiers she'll have had enough.

John
 
Start saving now, bring lots of money, LEAVE THE OLD LADY HOME;) :cool: arrive early so you don,t miss the best deals and never pay what there asking, always try and talk them down in price, they don,t want to carry all this stuff out again. I,ve made offers on stuff and been refused and walked away only to walk back by the table again and be called back over by the guy saying alright you,ve got a deal. A show is also a great place to find retired and hard to find stuff also.
You should have a great time, but trust me leave the old lady at home! She,ll be bored to death in no time and you don,t want her knowing what this stuff really costs anyway!:eek::p
 
So I'm planning on making my way over to San Antonio for the May29th-30th Texas Toy Soldier Show in the Menger Hotel.

Since I'm new to the hobby, and this will be my first show, I'm not quite sure what to expect, and was wanting to get some advice from some of the veterans on the board.

Congrats on your first show! I still remember a time, before the Internet, when going to the shows really was such a high point for the hobby year, because we didn't have constant contact with one another. You'll love it.

Are there deals at the show, or are the prices the same as you would pay via Internet or regular stores?

It will vary. Some dealers may offer discounts or show sale prices, but it is not necessarily custom, nor should we expect it (see another thread elsewhere in the forum for a discussion of this expectation). Remember that we are collectors, and we want to buy things for our collections as cheaply as possible, but dealers are businessmen and they need to make a profit on what they sell, to continue their business. Keep your eyes open for discounts and deals. If there are dealers you normally deal with, and they are at the show, don't be afraid to ask.

Don't be afraid to haggle, either. Much of the hobby is a secondary market, and prices are whatever the seller and buyer agree on at the time of the sale.

Also, along with the professionals who sell toy soldiers for a living, there will be vendors who take tables and sell parts of their collections, and you might find some good bargains, or some relatively rarer items, among the amateurs.

And at the end of the second day of the show, some might be more willing to haggle and knock something off their selling price, rather than have to pack an item back up and take it home again.


How much money should I plan on spending? (Guess this might be a relative question).

You're correct, it's relative. If you're buying King & Country or one of the other contemporary makers, you'll need more than I do, who buys old castings for refurbishing/repainting. But take as much as you think you can afford to spend on your hobby. Also, tap MAC close to home; ATMs close to the show site will probably run out of cash. (Sorry, "tap MAC" is local PA and Jersey slang-MAC is "Money Access Center", that was CoreStates Bank's trade name for their ATM networks)

Best time to arrive?

It depends. There will probably be a crowd at the door at opening time on both days. For me, I like to get to a show when it opens. But it depends on whether you think you'll find your Holy Grail of pieces for your collection, and need to beat out everyone else to get it, and if it'll gnaw at you if you don't.

Is it a show located where the hotel and the local authorities allow vendors to sell from their rooms before the actual show dates, a la the Chicago toy soldier show? If there is room trading, you might even go before the show date. But room trading is the exception, not the rule (despite how many people whine about it when a show doesn't "offer" it-they don't realize that it's not necessarily up to the show promoters).

Is there a mall or anything close by that I can send my girlfriend to, I'm sure after 20 min. of toy soldiers she'll have had enough.

I'm afraid I can't speak to that, I don't know the area. I recommend Googling the hotel and the town, or contacting the hotel and asking them for local shopping. They ought to have a concierge or a desk service that can fill you in on local info.

Above all, enjoy the show, take your time there, talk to as many people, both patrons and vendors, as you can. If you're looking at stuff on a table, and others are looking, too, engage them in conversation. Don't be afraid to ask questions of both vendors and patrons. The shows are a great opportunity to meet other people in our hobby, face-to-face, which is still a lot of fun and can't be replaced by the Internet.

Prost!
Brad
 
Oh, and a followup--I'm not familiar with this particular show, but many shows are not merely vendor marts, but also include an exhibition or competition of figures. If the show features an exhibition, do take the time to visit it and make sure you see everything. And if the person who did the work is there, talk to him, too.

Prost!
Brad
 
The River Center Mall is 20 steps from the valet garage of the Menger Hotel where the show is held...there's also a Morton's Steakhouse right next to it...
 
John: The Menger has a great dining room and their rough rider Bar you need to see. The Alamo is next door and the riverwalk is across the street. Kings X Toy Soldier Shop is in the Menger also. You can call Joan there for more info. I expect Hobby Bunker and Sierra Toy Soldiers will attend but you can contact the San Diego Toy Soldier Club for more vendor information and whether there will selling from the dealers' rooms the day and night before the show opens. You should be able to make some deals. Have fun and if you don't see what you want, just ask.
 
The mall and River Walk entrance is right next to the hotel, walk out the back door and you're there. I'm arriving on Wednesday, Staying at the Menger and will have a table at the show. There's always some deals at the show especially on Sunday. Not sure what my inventory will be, depends on how I do at the Indy show.
 
A tip or two on going to shows I learned a long time ago:

-Get there when it opens, if you're serious.
-If you like it, BUY IT NOW. It will not be there later.
-You CAN negotiate - on some things with some dealers. Never hurts to ask. They're more likely to deal towards the end of the show - but what you want may be gone too.
-Walk the whole place to see what dealers are there and who you need to hit first before his supply is gone. If you're after one or two special things, do that first. Find out what dealers are coming and PLAN your strategy.
-Have a shopping list, even if you don't follow it. Shows can be overwhelming. You may need something to return you "to task."
- If you have leather bag (man purse?) or somehting similar, bring it. Mine is a WWI gas mask bag. You can keep all your stuff in it for ready use - pen, paper shopping list, business cards and purchases. I usually throw in a few plastic bags to ease carrying my load.
-Bring CASH! Lots of CASH! Also a few credit cards. I always run thru my cash - so I need a backup.
-Meet as many people as you can - you will not find a better bunch of folks. Meet the dealers you do business with and meet other T.S. crazies.
-I do a lot of buying on the internet, so I use shows to look at prospective sets I plan to buy by mail.
- S.A is a gorgeous place. Take a day to look around, go to the River Walk, Alamo, etc.
Have a great time.
 
I stayed at the Menger last year...

we had a veranda suite and it was very very very nice...

If anyone knows any of the hotels within walking distance (3-4 blocks) of the Menger...

please give me a call...

Michael
409-740-7008
 
This will be my first San Antonio Show and I will be driving.
I have been advised not to use the Meneger Hotels parking as it is quite expensive, but to park my car in another garage a block or so from the hotel. Does anyone know the name or exact location of this garage?
As for bringing your wife, I am because of all the other attractions in the San Antonio area.
I am treating this trip as a regular vacation with a soldier show thrown in the mix.
Gary
 
I think the lot is just on the other side of the Crockett Holtel.
 
I think on the TSSD San Antonio Show website it says the show is negotiating for a better parking rate...

STAY AT THE MENGER WITH A NEW, LOWER SHOW RATE OF $ 119.00 !!
OR
STAY WHEREVER YOU WISH!

* NOTE:
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MENGER HOTEL DOES CHARGE FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING FOR HOTEL GUESTS. LAST YEAR THE COSTS WERE $ 25.00 PER DAY.

( It's about the Same at the Marriott, Hyatt, La Quinta, etc. )

HOWEVER, WE DID FIND AN OVERNIGHT PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT DOOR WHICH WAS MUCH MORE REASONABLE, AND IT COULD TAKE TRAILERS OR VANS, ETC.

WE ARE NEGOTIATING FOR A BETTER PARKING RATE AT THIS TIME.

http://www.sdsoldiers.com/thetexasshow2010.htm
 
Here is some more off the website...

*VALET PARKING OR SELF PARKING - SEE BELOW:



* NOTE!

WHILE WE GOT A GREAT ROOM RATE, THE DOWNTOWN HOTELS ARE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE IF YOU USE HOTEL "VALET" PARKING.

THE MENGER HOTEL CHARGES $ 25.00 A DAY PLUS TAX.

( AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH, MANY OF THE DOWNTOWN HOTELS CHARGE $ 25.00 A DAY FOR PARKING )



MOST OUT-OF-STATE VISITORS WILL NOT NEED - OR HAVE - A CAR.

IF YOU PLAN TO STAY AT THE MENGER, AND HAVE A CAR, WE WILL SOON POST ADDITIONAL PARKING FACILITIES THAT ARE CLOSE BY AND LESS EXPENSIVE.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE RIVERCENTER MALL PARKING GARAGE WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE HOTEL, "MACY's" PARKING LOT, AND DOZENS OF CITY PARKING LOTS RINGING THE HOTEL.

MACY'S HAS A LOT THAT WILL TAKE RV's, TRAILERS, BUSES AND ETC.



PARKING UPDATE:

THERE IS A PARKING LOT JUST PAST THE MARRIOTT RESIDENCE INN, ACROSS FROM THE FIRE STATION

( 425 BONHAM STREET )

AT THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

404 NORTH ALAMO STREET

JUST $ 5.00 A DAY - FOR DAYTIME PARKING
 
This will be my first San Antonio Show and I will be driving.
I have been advised not to use the Meneger Hotels parking as it is quite expensive, but to park my car in another garage a block or so from the hotel. Does anyone know the name or exact location of this garage?
As for bringing your wife, I am because of all the other attractions in the San Antonio area.
I am treating this trip as a regular vacation with a soldier show thrown in the mix.
Gary

That's the same strategy I'm taking, We've been to S.A. before, so she already knows all the good places to shop.
 
I'm staying at the hotel Contessa it is very modern and cool looking. Its on the Riverwalk and about 3-4 blocks from the Menger hotel. This hotel also charges $25 per day for parking.


http://thehotelcontessa.com/
 
This will be my first San Antonio Show and I will be driving.
I have been advised not to use the Meneger Hotels parking as it is quite expensive, but to park my car in another garage a block or so from the hotel. Does anyone know the name or exact location of this garage?
As for bringing your wife, I am because of all the other attractions in the San Antonio area.
I am treating this trip as a regular vacation with a soldier show thrown in the mix.
Gary

here is the exact location...I don't know the name

PARKING UPDATE:

THERE IS A PARKING LOT JUST PAST THE MARRIOTT RESIDENCE INN, ACROSS FROM THE FIRE STATION

( 425 BONHAM STREET )

AT THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

404 NORTH ALAMO STREET

JUST $ 5.00 A DAY - FOR DAYTIME PARKING
 
The Holiday Inn San Antonio Riverwalk is $127.00 a night.

$148.27 with tax...

$16.00 self park...$22.00 valet park.

I have stayed here before...it is pretty nice and about a 3-5 block walk from the Menger...

the Menger is offering rates of $119.00...$25.00 for parking...

last year I changed my room three time...:(

http://www.holidayinn.com/hotels/us/en/san-antonio/satrw/hoteldetail

if anybody finds something comparable to the Holiday Inn in price and location...please post it...
 
I have stayed there...it is very small and dated as is the Menger:(

Mike,

Just got through looking at the pictures you posted of the show last year on the board!

The balcony shot from your room looks pretty nice, but I'm not all that impressed with the interior of the room. I've started looking for places on the riverwalk, hopefully I can find something with a decent rate. Contessa is nice, but the lowest the rooms go is $239 per night.
 

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