The Army of Frederick the Great (2 Viewers)

[Wolfgang_UK]

I believe "Junker" was also a term meaning "aristcrat" or "upper class".


Yes it does, infact it is a mediveal term for those members of the nobility WITHOUT haveing been granted knighthood. Later it was used as a general term for the sons of noblemen and young nobles without
a own title.
When Martin Luther had to hide on the Wartburg -where he translated the bible- he did this as
"Junker Jörg".

 

[black hat miniatures]

Nice collection of figures - I've always been put off tackling Seven Years War figures due to the amount of lace!

Mike

 

[theBaron]

Thanks for the explanation, it's a period I'm beginning to have more interest in. I believe "Junker" was also a term meaning "aristcrat" or "upper class".
By the way it may interest you to know that the Blues and Royals (RHG/D) still use the name "Cornet" for a newly comisioned officer rather than second lieutenant (pronounced leftenant)

Martin

I believe "Junker" was also a term meaning "aristcrat" or "upper class".


Yes it does, infact it is a mediveal term for those members of the nobility WITHOUT haveing been granted knighthood. Later it was used as a general term for the sons of noblemen and young nobles without
a own title.
When Martin Luther had to hide on the Wartburg -where he translated the bible- he did this as
"Junker Jörg".

Roger that, by the late Renaissance, it had taken on the general meaning of a nobleman, especially in the central and eastern German lands. By the 18th century, it was associated more and more with the eastern German nobility, till we get to the modern era, and it's used almost exclusively for the Prussian nobility. Few self-respecting Bavarian nobles, for example, would have referred to themselves as "Junker" by that time.

Prost!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

Nice collection of figures - I've always been put off tackling Seven Years War figures due to the amount of lace!

Mike

Thanks, Mike! I encourage to try your hand at the 18th century, too. There is a very good selection of castings out there, and you've got the Seven Years War/French and Indian War, or the Revolutionary War, a lot of variety in subjects to choose from.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Obee]

Here is my latest figure from Frederick the Great's Army.



The figure was produced by John Eden and I got it from his EBay site last month.

I painted the NCO from the 7th Infantry Regiment, as the sculpting needed Swedish Cuffs, with no lace on the lapels, and that was the first one that suited.

The pose seems very similar to one on this postcard from Fort Ticonderoga of Hessian NCOs.... what do you think?



Does anyone know who made the original casting ????

John

 

[jazzeum]

Very nice John but did you post photos from an iPhone. Pictures are on their side, if you know what I mean. If yes, try using an app like simple resize. It's what I use.

Brad

 

[theBaron]

Does anyone know who made the original casting ????

Hi, John,

Barring a conclusive ID from anyone else, I'll say that the grenadier looks like he's based on Jack Scheid's sculpts. He has similar proportions to Scheid's figures, especially insofar as the head compares to the rest of the body. Scheid's grenadier caps looked a little too big for the figure, especially compared to Imrie-Risley grenadiers, who are better proportioned, I think. However, I can't rule out an original sculpt. The bear is definitely an original sculpt, I'll wager, and based on the image from the series sold at Ticonderoga. I've just never seen this vignette before. Maybe an inquiry to John Eden might bring more info.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Wolfgang_UK]

The pose seems very similar to one on this postcard from Fort Ticonderoga of Hessian NCOs.... what do you think?



I´d say almost identical,- very nice figure and a very nice paintjob. You did great captureing the "right" hue of pink I think.
I keep enjoying this thread a lot - thanks for shareing.
regards
Wolfgang

 

[Oberstinhaber]

Hi, John,

Barring a conclusive ID from anyone else, I'll say that the grenadier looks like he's based on Jack Scheid's sculpts. He has similar proportions to Scheid's figures, especially insofar as the head compares to the rest of the body. Scheid's grenadier caps looked a little too big for the figure, especially compared to Imrie-Risley grenadiers, who are better proportioned, I think. However, I can't rule out an original sculpt. The bear is definitely an original sculpt, I'll wager, and based on the image from the series sold at Ticonderoga. I've just never seen this vignette before. Maybe an inquiry to John Eden might bring more info.

Prost!
Brad

Gentlemen,

I believe that this casting is an old Hinchliffe offering from about 30+ years ago. It dates from the time Frank Hinchliffe was courting the Amercian market. It came out at the same time as 2 other vignettes, the Woodland Indian with the Boy captive, and the Woodland Indian scalping his victim. No doubt that the bear was part of the set.

As I recall it was marketed as a Hessian NCO (von Reisdals?? Regt) during the AWI. So, the likeness to the Post Card is more than just coincidence.

I have no recollection of any named sculptor ever being credited with any of these figures. I have the 2 Woodland Indian vignetts afore mentioned, and they are definitely by the same sculptor. If I had to give an opinion, I would say that this piece probably is by the same guy.

Sorry I can't be more specific.

Bob

 

[Obee]

Gentlemen,

I believe that this casting is an old Hinchliffe offering from about 30+ years ago. It dates from the time Frank Hinchliffe was courting the Amercian market. It came out at the same time as 2 other vignettes, the Woodland Indian with the Boy captive, and the Woodland Indian scalping his victim. No doubt that the bear was part of the set.

As I recall it was marketed as a Hessian NCO (von Reisdals?? Regt) during the AWI. So, the likeness to the Post Card is more than just coincidence.

I have no recollection of any named sculptor ever being credited with any of these figures. I have the 2 Woodland Indian vignetts afore mentioned, and they are definitely by the same sculptor. If I had to give an opinion, I would say that this piece probably is by the same guy.

Sorry I can't be more specific.

Bob

Bob,

thanks for pointing me in the right direction, and YES it is Hinchliffe and the bear comes with the set.

I had a look at an on-line catalogue here : http://www.mirofsoft.com/nostalgia-old-catalog-pdf/

Then to the PDF of the catalogue : http://www.mirofsoft.com/app/download/7272900949/Hinchliffe.pdf?t=1362303793

and this page showed up



The figure 54/V1 is a Brunswick Grenadier Sgt from the von Reidesel Regt, which is the central figure in the postcard.

Thanks for the identification, Bob, I appreciate your help.

John

 

[theBaron]

That's quite a score, then, John, congratulations! I do have an email in to John Eden, to ask about the availability of the figure.

I notice from the Hinchcliffe flyer that the British ensign is based on an illustration that appears in Osprey's original edition of "The British Army in North America, 1775-83". He's on one of the color pages, and I recall that in the description of the figure was a general note about the size of British colors and how unwieldy they must have been for the relatively young gentlemen who tended to carry them.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Oberstinhaber]

The Baron, et al,

I enjoy this thread very much, as the 7YW is but one of my interests. I believe that, unlike most of you, I think, Frederick the Great did not "win" this war, [OK, I have my tin hat on and I am in a very deep trench!]

The biggest problem with the 7YW, from my point of view is the almost total lack of Austrian Figures (compared with the plethora of Prussians). I have all the offerings from Tradition (big 54mm), Hecker & Goros (their series of Hungarian Infantry is supurb) a lot of PZ from Poland, and. of course, Rylit. There are "ones and twos" from Elisena, Aitna, and a couple of other European manufacturers

It is extremely disappointing that: Ulrich Puchala, Prince August, Army House, Rose Miniatures,and, New Hope Design have only done Prussians from this era. Preiser's excellent contribution, in plastic (sculpted by Ulrich) is also exclusively Prussian.

Hinchliffe (Skytrek) did only one Austrian Gun, the handy little 6 Pdr which remained in service up until the War of 1866. They also did a French 12 Pdr (I think it was). Ulrich's guns, crews, vehicles, carts, teams and drivers are excellent.

I just hope that, before I die, some maker will answer my prayers.

Sorry for all that waffle! To answer the Baron's question:

Yes, there is only one model of my favourite Empress that I know of: Catalogue Number RA 17 from Rylit!

My copy is, as yet, unpainted. I will attempt to attach a scan of the Kit photo.

Regards,

Bob

 

[Oberstinhaber]

Almost a month since my last post on this thread.

I have been waiting patiently for some good soul to come up on the ether and give me a list of "Austrian" 7YW figures that have eluded me for all these years. Alas, it appears that I was right, there aren't any!

My List is: Hecker & Goros, Rylit, Elisena, in reasonably sized 54's, and Tradition, and an unnamed Czech firm in large sized 54's. I am aware that two of the 1/30 scale firms are making some nice 7YW Austrians. I am too committed to 1/32 to change now.

I have to admit to not being full bottle on the output of "New Hope Design" I have found it impossible to find an accurate listing of their output. I am aware of most of their 7YW Prussians. I always thought that they prided themselves on bringing out a "balanced" set of figures to accompany the Osprey books. I have all of their Napoleonic Austrians ( and very nice they are too ) and I know that everyone else in that era had figures produced. Can anyone help me in this area? Did they in fact make any 7YW Austrians?

I prefer kits, as one can do so much more with a kit figure.

A real challange!

Bob

 

[Obee]

I got news in today from Tradition of London which shows a new set of figures from this era:

Prussian Hussar with Lady c.1760

comprising a Hussar who can be painted as one of the 3 regiments (No. 1, 2 or 3) who wore the brown busby.

T54 499

and his lady

T54 500

Maybe more such figures will be forthcoming to make some nice dioramas?

John

 

[Artillery_crazy]

I got news in today from Tradition of London which shows a new set of figures from this era:

Prussian Hussar with Lady c.1760

comprising a Hussar who can be painted as one of the 3 regiments (No. 1, 2 or 3) who wore the brown busby.

T54 499

and his lady

T54 500

Maybe more such figures will be forthcoming to make some nice dioramas?

John

Brrr....the "lady" has a neck as thick as the barrel of an 18 pounder.......Gee...what a Fraulein.....{sm4}{sm4}{sm4}

 

[Gebhard]

Brrr....the "lady" has a neck as thick as the barrel of an 18 pounder.......Gee...what a Fraulein.....{sm4}{sm4}{sm4}

Good GOD !!! Looks more like the neck of Horse {eek3}{eek3} and that face...... oh that face {eek3} If I were him I'd charge the guns ... alone :wink2:

 

[Oberstinhaber]

GOOD NEWS !

I have just been browsing the internet, and I had a look at the "Berliner Zinnfiguren" website.

To my great surprise, and I must say pleasure, I discovered that BZ are listing most of Ulrich Puchala's 54mm production, under his name, at very reasonable prices [the average foot figure is EUROs 14.65]

I don't profess to know his old catalogue backwards, but it seems that ALL of his 7YW figures, and equipment, guns waggons etc, are there, but I can't be sure about his WWII and other stuff.

ENJOY,

Bob

 

[Mirof]

Almost a month since my last post on this thread.

I have been waiting patiently for some good soul to come up on the ether and give me a list of "Austrian" 7YW figures that have eluded me for all these years. Alas, it appears that I was right, there aren't any!

My List is: Hecker & Goros, Rylit, Elisena, in reasonably sized 54's, and Tradition, and an unnamed Czech firm in large sized 54's. I am aware that two of the 1/30 scale firms are making some nice 7YW Austrians. I am too committed to 1/32 to change now.

I have to admit to not being full bottle on the output of "New Hope Design" I have found it impossible to find an accurate listing of their output. I am aware of most of their 7YW Prussians. I always thought that they prided themselves on bringing out a "balanced" set of figures to accompany the Osprey books. I have all of their Napoleonic Austrians ( and very nice they are too ) and I know that everyone else in that era had figures produced. Can anyone help me in this area? Did they in fact make any 7YW Austrians?

I prefer kits, as one can do so much more with a kit figure.

A real challange!

Bob

New Hope
I made a list covering more than 1000 pieces, done by New Hope
list and some catalog to download (free) at http://www.mirofsoft.com/nostalgia-old-catalog-pdf/

 

[Mirof]

GOOD NEWS !

I have just been browsing the internet, and I had a look at the "Berliner Zinnfiguren" website.

To my great surprise, and I must say pleasure, I discovered that BZ are listing most of Ulrich Puchala's 54mm production, under his name, at very reasonable prices [the average foot figure is EUROs 14.65]

I don't profess to know his old catalogue backwards, but it seems that ALL of his 7YW figures, and equipment, guns waggons etc, are there, but I can't be sure about his WWII and other stuff.

ENJOY,

Bob

Old catalog Puchala at your disposal at
http://www.mirofsoft.com/nostalgia-old-catalog-pdf/

Best

 

[Oberstinhaber]

Old catalog Puchala at your disposal at
http://www.mirofsoft.com/nostalgia-old-catalog-pdf/

Best

Hi Mirof,

A most valuable service you have provided. Thank you.

Unfortunately, I couldn't answer either of my questions there as there are clearly gaps in the holdings of catalogues. So I will just keep looking.

On the plus side I did spend a couple of enjoyable hours looking at other stuff, and found a number of interesting things I didn't know about before. Thank you again.

Bob