The Night Of (1 Viewer)

Combat said:
I'm still on the fence with this show after three episodes. The opening credits are a clear ripoff of True Detective. That bugs me everytime I watch. The show itself is slowly paced which doesn't mean it's bad but sometimes boring. I've learned or reaffirmed a couple things. First, you don't want to go to prison. I knew this, however, even before watching. And second, if you have itchy feet it is a real pain. I also suspected this although putting Crisco on them and wrapping them in plastic bags as a potential solution was something I didn't know. Enough with that lawyer's feet! His support group was a bridge too far on that. The cat looks suspicious to me like the lawn mowing man in TD. You can't introduce something like a cat into the plot unless it is important to paraphrase some Russian author.
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I originally thought it was the father in law...but am now leaning to the guy named after the drugstore...I thought this was a great episode...Naz's character...for good or bad...is really evolving...
 
Here's another good story about the series but don't read it if you haven't seen episode 5, https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.n...ason-1-episode-5-recap.amp.html?client=safari

The part about Duane Reade is really funny, particularly if you're a New Yorker, because it's the biggest drug chain in the City. I also like the Trevor character, because he reminds me of a lot of people, opinionated, brash and somewhat prejudiced but he doesn't try to hide it.

I find this series much better than True Detective: grittier and more realistic.
 
I re-watched one of the episodes and noticed that one of the executive producers is James Gandolfini. Apparently he was quite involved in the series when it was in its early stages. He was actually set to play Jack Stone (John Turturro) before his death.
 
So now what? Was it Duane Reade? Or the step-father?

I still think the cat had something to do with it. ^&grin
 
agreed...

so much emphasis on the cat...

the cat will probably produce a clue that breaks the case...

sticking with the step father...

he looked like a pervy gold digger in the last scene...
 
Panzer ace said:
I re-watched one of the episodes and noticed that one of the executive producers is James Gandolfini. Apparently he was quite involved in the series when it was in its early stages. He was actually set to play Jack Stone (John Turturro) before his death.
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Gandolfini would have killed that role...
I always liked him and followed his career as he seemed to balloon in weight before my very eyes...
more than once I thought he was a potential candidate for a heart attack...
always amazed at how much bigger he got every time I saw him...

but Torturro is killing it himself...
he slayed me in The Big Lebowski...
one of my favorite movies...
love the scene at the end when John Goodman does his off the wall Vietnam eulogy for Buscemi...
and then throws his cremated ashes off the cliff and they blow back in Bridges face...
Do The Right Thing...
O Brother, Where Art Thou?...
Rounders...
he's talented...
it obvious he didn't make it in Hollywood off his looks...

the creepy woman hater guy...
the mortician or hearse driver...
I think he's a dead end...
too obvious...

drug store guy...
another dead end...
gotta be the step father...

Naz is turning into a real prison delinquent...
tattoos...smoking crack...contraband phone...
his relationship with Freddy is gonna bust wide open soon...

also glad Torturro's funky feet cleared up...^&grin
 
Just seen the first episode
Now I leave you, I have 5 more to see
Best

Turturro replace DeNiro who was to play the part
 
good episode last night...

especially liked the scene where the defense's expert witness gave the prosecutor's attorney all she could handle on the witness stand...
his smile and demeanor throughout his testimony was confident...
almost to a stage of cocky as he showed evidence favoring Naz...

court room dramas are some of my favorite shows...
The Rainmaker...
A Few Good Me...
Primal Fear..
To Kill A Mockingbird...

the copycat murder of the black girl...
I think it makes Box wonder if Naz is innocent...
even though he is retired...
I don't think Box's role in the show is near over...

Freddy takes out the prison sexual predator...
hardcore...
that was cool...

while they briefly re-visited the characters of the hearse driver and the guy named after the drugstore...
my money is still on the gym gigolo...

next week is the season finale...
can't believe the season is over so quickly...
hope the season finale comes in strong...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
good episode last night...

especially liked the scene where the defense's expert witness gave the prosecutor's attorney all she could handle on the witness stand...
his smile and demeanor throughout his testimony was confident...
almost to a stage of cocky as he showed evidence favoring Naz...

court room dramas are some of my favorite shows...
The Rainmaker...
A Few Good Me...
Primal Fear..
To Kill A Mockingbird...

the copycat murder of the black girl...
I think it makes Box wonder if Naz is innocent...
even though he is retired...
I don't think Box's role in the show is near over...

Freddy takes out the prison sexual predator...
hardcore...
that was cool...

while they briefly re-visited the characters of the hearse driver and the guy named after the drugstore...
my money is still on the gym gigolo...

next week is the season finale...
can't believe the season is over so quickly...
hope the season finale comes in strong...
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The most dramatic ending would be Naz getting off but later realizing he did it. Some Perry Mason-type solution where the real murderer is identified by a series of last minute clues would be an insult to the realism of the show. Maybe Naz gets taken out in prison and the case is never resolved. I just can't see a nice tidy ending.
 
so who did it?

I really don't know...Naz can't even say for sure he didn't do it...

so...I'm kind of disappointed with the ending...I would have preferred some closure...

the writers present you with 8 episodes of this murder thriller...but give you no conclusive ending on the murderer...that kind of sucked...

did Naz do it...the financial officer/lover...the step father...the limo guy...the drugstore guy...I don't know...they all seem like good suspects...kind of left me hanging...

leaning to liking the hung jury decision and the prosecution declining to retry...I don't think I could have found him guilty if I was on the jury...just not enough evidence and too many other suspects...

but the focus of the show seemed to shift onto the sad commentary of how the system changed Naz's life...guilty or not...Rikers messed him up good...all tatted up now...with a drug habit...a criminal record...shunned by his own community...family ties strained...he's a much harder man now than the naive kid he was in episode one...

I also thought the CD of him and Chandra kissing wasn't handled very well...who thought this up for a mistrial and why...Stone...Freddy...Naz...I'm not even clear who it was sent to originally...Stone or Box...

still...I enjoyed the series...would welcome HBO continuing with a new story next season...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
so who did it?

I really don't know...Naz can't even say for sure he didn't do it...

so...I'm kind of disappointed with the ending...I would have preferred some closure...

the writers present you with 8 episodes of this murder thriller...but give you no conclusive ending on the murderer...that kind of sucked...

did Naz do it...the financial officer/lover...the step father...the limo guy...the drugstore guy...I don't know...they all seem like good suspects...kind of left me hanging...

leaning to liking the hung jury decision and the prosecution declining to retry...I don't think I could have found him guilty if I was on the jury...just not enough evidence and too many other suspects...

but the focus of the show seemed to shift onto the sad commentary of how the system changed Naz's life...guilty or not...Rikers messed him up good...all tatted up now...with a drug habit...a criminal record...shunned by his own community...family ties strained...he's a much harder man now than the naive kid he was in episode one...

I also thought the CD of him and Chandra kissing wasn't handled very well...who thought this up for a mistrial and why...Stone...Freddy...Naz...I'm not even clear who it was sent to originally...Stone or Box...

still...I enjoyed the series...would welcome HBO continuing with a new story next season...
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Mike:

I agree with your points.

One thing I did like was the way that in the end the writers showed how this case changed/effected the major characters. Chandra literally loses her job, Box retires and works security at NYU, Naz himself is a drug addict etc. I like the very end where Stone fields the call from a client (who has just been arrested) while eating his dinner and watching TV (the ASPCA commercial plays in the background), at that point I thought that he was the only character who was exactly the same from start to finish, uneffected by the case, then as he leaves the cat walks by...........

-Jason
 
Panzer ace said:
Mike:

I agree with your points.

One thing I did like was the way that in the end the writers showed how this case changed/effected the major characters. Chandra literally loses her job, Box retires and works security at NYU, Naz himself is a drug addict etc. I like the very end where Stone fields the call from a client (who has just been arrested) while eating his dinner and watching TV (the ASPCA commercial plays in the background), at that point I thought that he was the only character who was exactly the same from start to finish, uneffected by the case, then as he leaves the cat walks by...........

-Jason
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Jason...

yea...
that was a nice heartfelt twist...
rescuing the cat from being euthanized...
I was a tad miffed when he returned the cat...
as the pound attendant was bummed out too...
guess his character was compassionate enough to live with his rashes than commit the cat to a sure death...

on a side note...

I hate that frickin commercial...
I'm a pet owner (dog)...
and I change the channel when they show it locally...
that commercial sucks big time...
 
If you watch any of those real life crime shows on channels like ID you come to realize a lot of crazy stuff goes on in the world that can sometimes never be resolved or understood. The ambiguous ending was fairly realistic in that regard. I would have voted to convict with the evidence they had against Naz. Likely a mistrial anyway based on the evidence regarding the financial advisor that was not turned over to the defense.
 
I happened to watch some of the final show using closed captioning because the kids had gone to bed. It was a mess as though some school kid had phonetically tried to enter the dialogue. Almost humorous until you realize a lot of hearing impaired folks rely on this service. HBO or whoever is responsible should be embarrassed. I'm not talking about a few mistakes but almost the entire show was garbled. I could understand if this was live on CSPAN where someone is typing the words in real time as they are spoken but this was taped programming on a major cable network.
 
I just watched the last episode and this show was never about who did it, that was besides the point. It was about the process, NY, its grittiness (loved the dumpling house scene as I've been in that place), the system, how what you get is not justice. In the early part of my career, I was inside courtrooms like that a few times. The lawyer compromised her itself and paid a heavy price. Ethical violations is something we worry about all the time. It can kill your career, as it did hers.

Heard a lot of people asking what the cat means. To me, it meant hope. Stone loses it and gives the cat away, but gets it back and saves the cat.
 
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