Tick-tock on the Tiger clock (1 Viewer)

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Was looking through a Russian book I had on Kursk for diorama idea & found these. Perhaps they will be of use to West Front collectors who are a bit lost in the East

a) rolling through a village during the assault-very unique
b) Tigers & halftracks in a column preparing for the advance; I count at least 5 APC's on the right
c) put your truck & Tiger together with the ground crew sold seperately
d) for those who have the old Rommel staff car
e) no figures like these...but it's the first time I saw a German mine clearing crew-thought it was interesting
 

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re the last picture.

the 2 guys carrying the wooden plank.

this is to assist the tiger to move on muddy tracks rite?
 
Could be Nasir,could be for some sort of earthwork but it doesn't look like they are 'digging in' does it.The T34 carried large wooden poles on its superstructure for this type of situation,but here as often is the case it appears to be left to the footsloggers!.

Excellent pics and thanks for posting them.

Rob
 
First post on this site but, as a long time collector, painter, converter et al wanted to join in.

The recent Tiger issue from K&C the pictures from the west coaster show a repainted Wittman tank with original crew does anyone know why this would be used as the new release, if its going to happen, as surely, if a grey Tiger 1 early version is to be released then, it would be better to use the latest Tunisian SL cast as this is an early version and, in better scale.

Look forward to your responses
 
Yes that Tiger does look like the early Wittman tank. Why would they release a older version again?
 
darryn said:
First post on this site but, as a long time collector, painter, converter et al wanted to join in.

The recent Tiger issue from K&C the pictures from the west coaster show a repainted Wittman tank with original crew does anyone know why this would be used as the new release, if its going to happen, as surely, if a grey Tiger 1 early version is to be released then, it would be better to use the latest Tunisian SL cast as this is an early version and, in better scale.

Look forward to your responses
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Welcome to the forum.
That Tigger is a new one. I thought at first glance that it might be a direct repaint of the AK version, but it's not. Size is one difference, the exhausts, hatches etc. The Wittman figure is very similar to the figure shown at the show, but is different. Look at the arm positions, and the second tanker is different again.

Cheers
Simon
 
darryn said:
First post on this site but, as a long time collector, painter, converter et al wanted to join in.

The recent Tiger issue from K&C the pictures from the west coaster show a repainted Wittman tank with original crew does anyone know why this would be used as the new release, if its going to happen, as surely, if a grey Tiger 1 early version is to be released then, it would be better to use the latest Tunisian SL cast as this is an early version and, in better scale.

Look forward to your responses
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How can you tell the scale from a photo? I really doubt K&C would suddenly go back to making a Tiger in 1:32 scale.

And as for the "correctness" of the model, it is based on real photos of an actual tank, so I'm not sure how it is just a repainted Wittmann tank?

Terry
 
I looked at the pictures posted on this site and, still think it is that old version used for the Wittmans last tank 007. the wheel base moulding etc looks similar and scale is not big by assesing the figure size of Cossacks etc.

Know that it is not a Tunisian SL repaint as that is different in appearance to the old version i.e. better track and wheel definition.
 
Phantom Warrior said:
I don't think so. A Tiger's track would pulverize it. But I don't know what the plank is used for.:confused:

Terry
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But this could depend on how many were used,what the situation was and if any other material were used as well.All sorts of things were oftend piled into ditch or obstacle for crossing purposes.But as you say,a few planks alone would be of little use under a Tiger.

Wraith said:
Welcome to the forum.
That Tigger is a new one. I thought at first glance that it might be a direct repaint of the AK version, but it's not. Size is one difference, the exhausts, hatches etc. The Wittman figure is very similar to the figure shown at the show, but is different. Look at the arm positions, and the second tanker is different again.

Cheers
Simon
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Well spotted Simon,I agree doesn't look the same to me.

Rob
 
darryn said:
I looked at the pictures posted on this site and, still think it is that old version used for the Wittmans last tank 007. the wheel base moulding etc looks similar and scale is not big by assesing the figure size of Cossacks etc.

Know that it is not a Tunisian SL repaint as that is different in appearance to the old version i.e. better track and wheel definition.
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I can't debate the size of the new tank as I don't have one yet, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't the same size as the Tunisian Tiger.

As for differences in the models.

Tracks - The Kursk Tiger has mud in the tracks - the Wittmann and Tunisian Tigers do not. That is what causes the difference in the track and wheel definition. And the drive sprocket hubs look like different models, but I can't tell for sure from the photos.

Turret - The Wittmann model has a low profile cupola rotating hatch cover, brackets holding track links. The Kursk model has a high profile cupola with vision ports and a vertical opening hatch, a rear mounted exhaust
fan (behind the loaders hatch) no track link brackets on the side of the turret

Hull - Wittmann single headlight, single tow cable on the side, shielded exhausts, no smoke/minen dischargers. Kursk - dual headlights, doubled tow cable on the side, un-shielded exhausts, installed smoke/minen dischargers.

These are the differences I can see at a first look and they correspond to changes made to the Tigers during their production history.

Terry
 
I just took a look at the photo posted by Carlos on the West Coaster thread and grabbed my WS 43 and there is no comparison at all between the two as Terry noted above.

It's just not logical to presume that K & C would even do that.
 
jazzeum said:
I just took a look at the photo posted by Carlos on the West Coaster thread and grabbed my WS 43 and there is no comparison at all between the two as Terry noted above.

It's just not logical to presume that K & C would even do that.
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There are 4 periods for Tigers. A short, Very Early Production Period, an Early Production Period, a Mid-production Period and a Late Production Period. The Kursk Tiger and Tunisian Tiger are both Early Production models. The Wittmann Tiger is on the cusp of Mid - Late Production - can't tell for sure as the only photo of 007 shows only the destroyed rear of the tank and the mid or late production identifying parts are not in the photo.

Terry
 
nasirkasmani said:
re the last picture.

the 2 guys carrying the wooden plank.

this is to assist the tiger to move on muddy tracks rite?
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that's a bangalore torpedo for clearing minefields. The Russians laid lots of minefields prior to the fight.
 
Rob said:
Well spotted Simon,I agree doesn't look the same to me.

Rob
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Yup. Andy said it's a brand new sculpt. I got to see it close up & it's the same size as the Tunisian...however the gun barrel on the new one looked thicker to me
 
Has anyone posted what the markings are on the front of the new Tiger (right and left front)?
 
Does anybody know where I can have a look at the new Tiger. New user today so, just tryinmg to find my way around the site and, how to use everything.
 
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