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It is obvious to me that discord and acrimony are the buzzwords for the forum of late. I personally am sick and tired of the childish behavior and I will not be visiting for a while. I think I need a break from this childish and immature behavior. Every thread is becoming corrupted by this disharmony. I am here to discuss my passion for this hobby of ours, not to act like a spoiled brat. May-be in a couple of weeks things will have changed. I hope so. Some “boys” need to grow the ****-up.:( :( :( :(
 
Michael:

Don't allow yourself to be driven away! Unfortunatley people do disagree.

Some people can do it in a nice way, expressing their point of view, and

hearing the other side. Others can become annoyed and go on the attack.

I am an Italian, former teamster, and while I consider myself a gentleman

I have been hit before, and may be hit again, but no one throwing the

punches has ever left happy.

I have been guilty of making statements to various indivuals that have said

things to me they might not in person.

I apologize to the Forum in general for losing my temper in these situations,

and shall attempt to control it and not respond in the future.

I do hope that my actions are not related to you decision, and hope you will

reconsider.

Sincerely

Njja:) :)
 
It is obvious to me that discord and acrimony are the buzzwords for the forum of late. I personally am sick and tired of the childish behavior and I will not be visiting for a while. I think I need a break from this childish and immature behavior. Every thread is becoming corrupted by this disharmony. I am here to discuss my passion for this hobby of ours, not to act like a spoiled brat. May-be in a couple of weeks things will have changed. I hope so. Some “boys” need to grow the ****-up.:( :( :( :(

You're right Micheal, But a better way to deal with it is the Ignore feature, I just set it up and went back into look and man, block a name or two and watch the garbage disappear!
Ray
 
It is obvious to me that discord and acrimony are the buzzwords for the forum of late. I personally am sick and tired of the childish behavior and I will not be visiting for a while. I think I need a break from this childish and immature behavior. Every thread is becoming corrupted by this disharmony. I am here to discuss my passion for this hobby of ours, not to act like a spoiled brat. May-be in a couple of weeks things will have changed. I hope so. Some “boys” need to grow the ****-up.:( :( :( :(

Michael

If I have done anything to upset you - please except my apology.

Ron
 
You're right Micheal, But a better way to deal with it is the Ignore feature, I just set it up and went back into look and man, block a name or two and watch the garbage disappear!
Ray

The Ignore feature works a treat, but what is the Buddy List feature for?

Jeff
 
I don't really see a lot of discord. I see a lot of passionate people where sometime tempers flare. Otherwise, I think all the people here making a contribution here.

I think, as a rule, taking a break from a board is a wholesome thing and hope that you return Michael when that's done.
 
Michael, I'm very sorry to see you go, even if only for a short time, but I feel the same way myself :(

Other forums I frequent are for the use of collectors to chat and exchange ideas. But mainly they are used to help other collectors find items they are looking for at reasonable prices. In these other forums, members keep a close eye on eBay sales and any eBay listings with higher than average prices (normal biding or buy it now prices), incorrect descriptions, and other factors that concern collectors are discussed in depth. Apparently such discussions are not welcome here unless names are not mentioned which makes the discussion pointless and the seller can maintain their tactics covertly.

This forum has always been very pro King & Country and in the past any person that suggested that there was scope for improvement in their products was harassed by other members and even the occassional business owner. I know that I still carry some scars from those past times when I tackled some of the issues.

I'm fully aware that K & C as a progressive company do improve their vehicles and tanks over time. But I like to think I played some small part in hastening these improvements such as better tank tracks, clear windows etc. This will enable K & C vehicles to enjoy greater acceptance in this hobby and collectors can enjoy better detailed products, a win/win situation if ever there was one.

However a win/win situation will not occur for collectors if prices for retired K & C pieces continue to climb. Eventually a boom becomes a bust, especially if the boom has been pushed artificially. Which is why I often comment when I see other members making attempts to affect an upward trend in prices on eBay.

I agree this does have positives for members in that it allows them to convert some of their items to cash for more model buys. However the negatives can be far worse as prices reach a point where the average collector can no longer participate in the hobby. Which is when the BUST usually kicks in causing concerns beyond everyones expectations.

Of course the usual defence for complaints about increasing prices is that the complaining person cannot afford said item, and the old "sour grapes" comment is then passed around. Of course they do not actually know the persons wealth, but most members appear to agree that MUST be the reason for such complaints. The fact that the complaining member may actually be worried for less affluent members and this hobby in general appears to escape them.

Before I get the "it's a free country and they don't HAVE to bid or buy it now", you should consider this. Humans, especially those with the collectors passion are easily persuaded by "advice", rumours and fears of "lost" items. You only have to look at the mad scramble for retired products be they King & Country or Honour Bound to see the later in action. I like to temper these comments and "advice" with posts of a more objective view.

However it appears my words of caution, together with my joke thread, are no longer desired. This is certainly not my view of a free country but I guess it is not my country so who am I to say. Anyway, I've decided to stay in my own country for a while, where freedom of speach is more real than just talked about and folk of a more British culture are more accepted.

And before I'm attacked by American Patriots. I ask that you actually do some research to discover how much your media etc is censored compared to most other democracies.
 
Michael,

Sorry man. We need you and I hope if I have offended you, sorry. Sometimes emotions get the best of me and yes sometimes I take it too personally and respond quickly instead of sleeping on it and before responding.

This forum needs the enthusiasm you have for the hobby. If certain people bug you, simply don't read them. When I do that, it’s easier to enjoy all of the rest of the posts, when I don't I have problems.

Carlos
 
Hi Michael,

I hope you do decide to come back and share your ideas again.

Oz good points all especially about the press but thats a political 3rd rail here so I'd be very wary of opening that conversation lightly. Otherwise good points.

All the best

Dave
 
The other forum seems to be on life support. So hopefully people will spread the wealth over there a bit.
 
I have not been around for a while, and I got a little suprised when I found out about this small storm in the forum. I myself am guilty of a few heated up remarks on the World Cup thread ( remember that, Brad? ). But I think the forum is above all this, I rate it very highly as a way to communicate, learn and exchange toy soldier experiences. How easily would I, from Portugal, communicate with people from all over the world and learn from them? At the end of the day, when all settles down and temperatures go down, it's the good side of the forum that will come up: toy soldier fun. It's a pity that sometimes things can flare up easily, like in the rest of our lives. What is a joke for someone can be offensive for someone else:confused: Passionate discussion is OK, good common sense can find limits, but the bottom line for me is: this is about toy soldiers, get it? There are thousands of serious things out there enough to make you want to migrate to the moon, I guess you sometimes forget about it and get remembered when someone dear dies, for instance. That's the hard part of life, let's keep this the fun part ( and this includes not going bankrupt because of toy soldiers:D ).


Best wishes, peace and love for everyone:D
Paulo
 

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