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From the Editor of the New York Times' Vietnam 67 Section:
And All the Ships At Sea
Fifty years ago in July 1967, a rocket was accidentally launched from the deck of the aircraft carrier Forrestal, which was stationed with its battle group off the coast of North Vietnam. The rocket hit a fuel tank, scattering flaming fuel and setting off bombs and other explosions. Within minutes, flames had engulfed a large swath of the flight deck. By the time the fire was under control, 134 sailors were dead and 161 injured, including John McCain, who was hit by shrapnel as he leapt from the cockpit of his burning A-4.
The Forrestal fire is a reminder of the significant, but today largely overlooked, role that the Navy played in the Vietnam War. More than 1.8 million sailors served in Southeast Asia during the war; of those, 1,631 were killed and 4,178 were wounded. The Navy was there at the war’s beginning — the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 — and at its very end in 1975, when American ships received helicopters carrying embassy staff and refugees fleeing the fall of Saigon.
The Navy did everything. Enormous aircraft carriers offshore sent out thousands of bombers and fighters on missions over South and North Vietnam, and into Cambodia and Laos. Destroyers pounded the coast; cruisers, with bigger guns, penetrated far inland. Other, faster ships interdicted smugglers. Amphibious assault ships ferried Marines to landing zones. Search and rescue helicopters saved hundreds of downed airmen.
Maybe the Navy’s most important role was its least glamorous — keeping the entire American operation supplied. As one veteran wrote to me, “If the troops on the ground ate, their foods were brought in by the Navy. If they had tanks, trucks, jeeps or other rolling stock, that was brought in by the Navy. If they fired artillery rounds, dropped bombs or fired M16 rounds, you can trust me that their mothers did not send that stuff in by airmail. All medical supplies came in by ship; many troops came in by ship; pencils, papers, office equipment and about anything else those men in the field had came in by ship and generally, those ships were Navy. They had to have fuel for their vehicles. How in the hell did that get there?”
While the giant aircraft carriers floated far offshore, thousands of sailors aboard hundreds of ships and boats plied South Vietnam’s rivers, carrying supplies, interrupting smugglers and inserting Army and Special Forces units into combat zones, especially in the venous waterways of the Mekong Delta. For four months John Kerry, the future congressman and secretary of state, patrolled those waters in his aluminum-hulled Swift boat.
Despite the hazardous conditions, the so-called brown-water Navy comprised older and less reliable boats, many of them leftovers from Korea or World War II. The boats leaked, and even those in top shape often lacked basic amenities, like water purification systems. Swift boats were basically off-the-shelf vessels originally designed to carry men from the American Gulf Coast to oil rigs. Well armed but poorly armored, River Patrol Boat crews faced annual casualty rates of up to 75 percent.
Though they didn’t know it at the time, those sailors — in both the brown-water and blue-water navies — were also being exposed to Agent Orange. Men working on cargo ships were exposed to it when they loaded and unloaded it from their holds. Dioxin runoff poisoned inland waterways and coastal waters. As a result, thousands of men who never set foot in Vietnam have nevertheless suffered the effects of Agent Orange.
These men have been fighting for years for the government to recognize their claims. In 2002, the Department of Veterans Affairs ruled that to receive benefits for Agent Orange exposure, claimants had to have served on dry land or inland rivers — a remarkably narrow interpretation of “service in the Republic of Vietnam,” the key requirement to receive V.A. Agent Orange coverage. (This year a bipartisan group in Congress introduced the Blue Water Navy Vietnam Veterans Act of 2017 to extend benefits to sailors who served in harbors and coastal waterways.)
But even when sailors qualify, there is often a bias against them — an assumption that because they served on a ship or a boat, they couldn’t possibly have suffered the physical or mental consequences of serving in a war. Evaluators assume that being on the water makes you invincible. Tell that to the men who served on the Forrestal. – Clay Risen
And All the Ships At Sea
Fifty years ago in July 1967, a rocket was accidentally launched from the deck of the aircraft carrier Forrestal, which was stationed with its battle group off the coast of North Vietnam. The rocket hit a fuel tank, scattering flaming fuel and setting off bombs and other explosions. Within minutes, flames had engulfed a large swath of the flight deck. By the time the fire was under control, 134 sailors were dead and 161 injured, including John McCain, who was hit by shrapnel as he leapt from the cockpit of his burning A-4.
The Forrestal fire is a reminder of the significant, but today largely overlooked, role that the Navy played in the Vietnam War. More than 1.8 million sailors served in Southeast Asia during the war; of those, 1,631 were killed and 4,178 were wounded. The Navy was there at the war’s beginning — the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 — and at its very end in 1975, when American ships received helicopters carrying embassy staff and refugees fleeing the fall of Saigon.
The Navy did everything. Enormous aircraft carriers offshore sent out thousands of bombers and fighters on missions over South and North Vietnam, and into Cambodia and Laos. Destroyers pounded the coast; cruisers, with bigger guns, penetrated far inland. Other, faster ships interdicted smugglers. Amphibious assault ships ferried Marines to landing zones. Search and rescue helicopters saved hundreds of downed airmen.
Maybe the Navy’s most important role was its least glamorous — keeping the entire American operation supplied. As one veteran wrote to me, “If the troops on the ground ate, their foods were brought in by the Navy. If they had tanks, trucks, jeeps or other rolling stock, that was brought in by the Navy. If they fired artillery rounds, dropped bombs or fired M16 rounds, you can trust me that their mothers did not send that stuff in by airmail. All medical supplies came in by ship; many troops came in by ship; pencils, papers, office equipment and about anything else those men in the field had came in by ship and generally, those ships were Navy. They had to have fuel for their vehicles. How in the hell did that get there?”
While the giant aircraft carriers floated far offshore, thousands of sailors aboard hundreds of ships and boats plied South Vietnam’s rivers, carrying supplies, interrupting smugglers and inserting Army and Special Forces units into combat zones, especially in the venous waterways of the Mekong Delta. For four months John Kerry, the future congressman and secretary of state, patrolled those waters in his aluminum-hulled Swift boat.
Despite the hazardous conditions, the so-called brown-water Navy comprised older and less reliable boats, many of them leftovers from Korea or World War II. The boats leaked, and even those in top shape often lacked basic amenities, like water purification systems. Swift boats were basically off-the-shelf vessels originally designed to carry men from the American Gulf Coast to oil rigs. Well armed but poorly armored, River Patrol Boat crews faced annual casualty rates of up to 75 percent.
Though they didn’t know it at the time, those sailors — in both the brown-water and blue-water navies — were also being exposed to Agent Orange. Men working on cargo ships were exposed to it when they loaded and unloaded it from their holds. Dioxin runoff poisoned inland waterways and coastal waters. As a result, thousands of men who never set foot in Vietnam have nevertheless suffered the effects of Agent Orange.
These men have been fighting for years for the government to recognize their claims. In 2002, the Department of Veterans Affairs ruled that to receive benefits for Agent Orange exposure, claimants had to have served on dry land or inland rivers — a remarkably narrow interpretation of “service in the Republic of Vietnam,” the key requirement to receive V.A. Agent Orange coverage. (This year a bipartisan group in Congress introduced the Blue Water Navy Vietnam Veterans Act of 2017 to extend benefits to sailors who served in harbors and coastal waterways.)
But even when sailors qualify, there is often a bias against them — an assumption that because they served on a ship or a boat, they couldn’t possibly have suffered the physical or mental consequences of serving in a war. Evaluators assume that being on the water makes you invincible. Tell that to the men who served on the Forrestal. – Clay Risen
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