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Hi Guys,

After the rather lively debate of last week it’s nice to get back to quieter waters and a little plain sailing… But it did get me reflecting on several key points…

1. “Passion in Collecting”
Collectors of almost anything (beermats, matchbooks, baseball cards, classic cars) and even, would you believe it, toy soldiers (or military miniatures if you prefer) love their hobby and what they particularly collect with a fierce, burning passion.

2. “The Growth in the Hobby and Business”
Many, many people have said they have come into the hobby in the past, few years… After discovering it almost by accident… That’s great news as any hobby needs a constant infusion of “new blood” to keep it moving forward… and alive!
New companies have continued to come and go bringing with them fresh approaches and different viewpoints as to what they make… how they sell it… and where they want to go.
Existing companies (like Britains, K&C and others) have I believe faced up to and met these new challenges and honed their own skills and abilities to develop into new collecting areas of the hobby… dioramas… aircraft… ships… to name but a few.

3. “The Quality, Diversity and Variety of What’s On Offer”…
All of this has led to an explosion of creativity and variety in the many different products available for the hobbyist to select and enjoy. Never, ever has so much been available to so few!

4. “Personal likes and dislikes”
Among the truly amazing variety of what’s on offer to the collecting public are all kinds of subject matter designed and produced in a staggering variety of different styles and manners to suit the purchasing power and personal taste of virtually every single collector… rich, poor, or like most of us, somewhere in between!

That neatly leads me into “who’s best… who’s the greatest… what’s crap… what’s boring etc. etc. etc.”

And that’s what got us all into a “kerfuffle” last week… The simple, straightforward answer is… “Whatever you like best FOR YOU is what is best FOR YOU and YOU ALONE ”. If one or two or two hundred collectors agree on the same thing then that is definitely THE BEST but still ONLY FOR THEM. Others will and most certainly may select something or someone else… and that’s great too.

As someone who loves Art I enjoy visiting Art Galleries and Museums all over the world. My tastes are fairly catholic and, I hope, all-embracing. I’m a big fan of Jan Vermeer (the Lacemaker, the Girl with One Pearl Ear Ring)… I’m equally enamoured of French Impressionism (particularly Monet and Manet)… Norman Rockwell is another personal favourite… and I can’t get enough of the modern British artist, David Hockney.

All of these fine artists are, in my humble opinion, superb I could not and would not try to put them into a “Top Ten” kind of listing… they’re just great and I enjoy their different styles of work, dedication and artistry.
It’s the same for me with Toy Soldiers (military miniatures). Of course I love what K&C does or wouldn’t do it. But that does not blind me to the obvious skills and qualities of my competitors and fellow producers… I’m a huge fan of Ken Osen’s work and how Richard Walker and him have turned around a near moribund company and restored it to its rightful place in the hobby.

I also admire what Rick Wang and Figarti are doing with their products… I’ve even got a small but growing collection!

Many people already know how much I like John Jenkins. In my humble opinion (only my own of course) John has been the most original of any “start-up” of the last decade… and I think the most successful.
And there’s many, many more including of course First Legion who have taken the Russian style and concept to China and produced some incredible work at an affordable price.

Put it all together and you have a strong, innovative and vibrant hobby that still is only reaching a tiny proportion of its potential market all over the world.

So, let’s agree to disagree if and when we must… but let’s not try and pull each other apart. Speaking for myself if I’ve been party to that in the past I will honestly try and be better (and more understanding) in the future.
This is a fantastic hobby and as I’ve said and written before… “It’s the most fun you can have with your clothes on!”

Let’s all of have fun… appreciate the best of each other… and enjoy our own and other’s collections.

Sincere best wishes and… happy collecting whatever you like and makes you happy,

Andy C.
 
Let’s all of have fun… appreciate the best of each other… and enjoy our own and other’s collections.

Andy C.


I really like this post.
Very well said all the way through but in particular I like the above quoted point.
Konrad
 
Thats a fine reply but, I bet that within a few weeks, if that, it will all go pete tong? Every new release by any manufacturer will evoke the same response mine is better than yours. There will be plenty more knee jerk reactions and more deleted posts and thats got to be accepted. This site is one of the most refrained I have seen and as a contributer to my favourite footy blog this is tea and crumpets.

WWII in the form of toy miniatures will always evoke passion which will always provoke reaction. It all adds to the hobby
Mitch
 
Very well said Andy and although we sometimes can't always agree and get overly excited (including yours truly), the thoughts expresssed in Andy's thread are the goals for which we should be striving.
 
Interesting post.

Would be interested how you come to this conclusion about JJ:

[In my humble opinion (only my own of course) John has been the most original of any “start-up” of the last decade… ]

and I think the most successful.

How would you measure how successful he is vs other "start-ups"?

Thanks
 
Interesting post.

Would be interested how you come to this conclusion about JJ:

[In my humble opinion (only my own of course) John has been the most original of any “start-up” of the last decade… ]

and I think the most successful.

How would you measure how successful he is vs other "start-ups"?

Thanks

Steve,

This is only guesswork on my part but I believe his thinking is that he took an idea, French and Indian War, where there didn't seem me to be outwardly much of an interest (unlike other more established ranges such as World War II and Napoleons) and hit a chord with collectors and has done very well with it.
 
The French and Indian wars and the War of 1812 are large parts of Canadian history and not wars you would expect to have world wide appeal. But having visited most of the forts and battlefields, it's a welcome addition because of my personal connection to them.

And no offence to Andy, but I don't really care which startup company is the most original or successful or how he comes to his opinion - and it is only an opinion. I collect figures from most manufacturers based on what I like and can afford. The problem for me isn't what to collect, but what not to collect because it is beyond my reach.

Terry
 
Yeah but I guess the items are produced by JJD in much lower numbers as well...

I think that Figarti must be successful as well, else they wouldn't be in business anymore- so except if you have any tangible knowledge, I think you cannot say that JJD is the most successful start-up in the last 10 years...

But it's just a detail I guess and I agree with Terry...not important really who is the most successful [except for the company itself ;-) ] as long as the collectors are spoilt with great offerings.
 
Yeah but I guess the items are produced in much lower numbers as well...

I think that Figarti must be successful as well, else they wouldn't be in business anymore- so except if you have any tangible knowledge, I think you cannot say that JJD is teh most successful star-up in the last 10 years...

But it's just a detail I guess.

As I said, that's his opinion. There are several successful startup companies, each appealing to a different segment of the market with some overlap. I wouldn't know how to judge or compare success or innovation or rank the companies or have any interest in doing so. I just take his comment for what it's worth - a personal opinion and not a slap at any of the other starup or resurgent companies.

Terry
 
Good post. In regards to the TS hobby (business) I can only say "I like what I like and I like it all!" -- Al
 
As I said, that's his opinion. There are several successful startup companies, each appealing to a different segment of the market with some overlap. I wouldn't know how to judge or compare success or innovation or rank the companies or have any interest in doing so. I just take his comment for what it's worth - a personal opinion and not a slap at any of the other starup or resurgent companies.

Terry

Terry, I didn't take it for more than it was supposed to express ;).

Was just curious what the thinking was behind that opinion.
 
Its probably that they go back a while and, its a bit of free advertising for JJD should what is seen as the number 1 manufacturer offer praise. Again, its all subjective as many, do not agree that that statement is correct so, its up to the most important person in the hobby.... the collector, whose money makes or breaks them to decide
Mitch

As I said, that's his opinion. There are several successful startup companies, each appealing to a different segment of the market with some overlap. I wouldn't know how to judge or compare success or innovation or rank the companies or have any interest in doing so.

Terry
 
Terry, I didn't take it for more than it was supposed to express ;).

Was just curious what the thinking was behind that opinion.

Poetic or creative license - I doubt there was any kind of statistical analysis, even by a rivet counter like Andy :rolleyes::D

Terry
 
And no offence to Andy, but I don't really care which startup company is the most original or successful or how he comes to his opinion - and it is only an opinion. I collect figures from most manufacturers based on what I like and can afford. The problem for me isn't what to collect, but what not to collect because it is beyond my reach.

Terry

Good point.
I definitiely agree with that.
 

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