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Isandlwana

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Apologies for starting a new thread.

I was just wondering if WB did produce a Little Big Horn series if any other WB collectors, like me, would definitely be interested in the range.

Black Hawk's series was good but it was limited to only 23 pieces and I just think there is a space in the market for Custer & co at the moment as K&C are concentrating on the Southern Plains Wars.
 
I could get into a Custer series. Many possibilities and personalities that could be done. Imagine Custer's last command council with Benteen, Reno, and all the others. Could be great. -- lancer
 
I would be keenly interested to say the least. Anything pertaining to the Northern and Central Plains between the 1850's and 1890's or so would be most welcome news.
 
Indians, blue soldiers, cannons, machine guns, forts, trains, wagons .......
What more could you want?;)
 
I would go for it! Especially if the soldiers are painted true to history and not John Ford's image of what the soldiers should look like!
 
DCN1898 said:
I would go for it! Especially if the soldiers are painted true to history and not John Ford's image of what the soldiers should look like!
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Well no doubt about it Ford just loved filming mythic stories about the US Cavalry as indeed did the rest of Hollywood throughout the 50's & 60's but I'm not too sure I fully understand the above quote "painted true to history and not Ford's image of what soldier's should look like".

Historically or wearing the wrong uniforms?:confused:

However, I certainly would sign up to a series of Little Big Horn figures. As discussed on this forum many times before Custer and the Plains Tribes have almost been completely ignored by all TS manufacturers. I am not talking about Play-sets in plastic but seriously sculpted metal figures such as we enjoy today with a plethora of other eras to choose from.

I had high hopes for the BlackHawk series but was bitterly disappointed with the first 3 figures I purchased especially coming from the Andrea stable. They just looked and felt wrong and I never did complete the series as the following figures released in the set got, in my opinion, progressively worse. This surprised me as I have assembled and painted many excellent Andrea ACW figures and one only has to look through their catalogue of finished kits to view some spectacular and beautifully posed mounted Sioux warriors. These outstanding figure styles & sculpts most definitely did not get transposed onto the BlackHawk sets.

The reason I believe that we have a complete lack of any discerning US Cavalry & The Plains Tribes figures manufactured today is purely down to the subject matter. That said I am sure there would be many collectors who would appreciate and buy into a superbly sculpted and painted series of this campaign.

Reb
 
UKReb said:
Well no doubt about it Ford just loved filming mythic stories about the US Cavalry as indeed did the rest of Hollywood throughout the 50's & 60's but I'm not too sure I fully understand the above quote "painted true to history and not Ford's image of what soldier's should look like".

Historically or wearing the wrong uniforms?:confused:

However, I certainly would sign up to a series of Little Big Horn figures. As discussed on this forum many times before Custer and the Plains Tribes have almost been completely ignored by all TS manufacturers. I am not talking about Play-sets in plastic but seriously sculpted metal figures such as we enjoy today with a plethora of other eras to choose from.

I had high hopes for the BlackHawk series but was bitterly disappointed with the first 3 figures I purchased especially coming from the Andrea stable. They just looked and felt wrong and I never did complete the series as the following figures released in the set got, in my opinion, progressively worse. This surprised me as I have assembled and painted many excellent Andrea ACW figures and one only has to look through their catalogue of finished kits to view some spectacular and beautifully posed mounted Sioux warriors. These outstanding figure styles & sculpts most definitely did not get transposed onto the BlackHawk sets.

The reason I believe that we have a complete lack of any discerning US Cavalry & The Plains Tribes figures manufactured today is purely down to the subject matter. That said I am sure there would be many collectors who would appreciate and buy into a superbly sculpted and painted series of this campaign.

Reb
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I would think that he was referring to the uniforms. One should look at the field attire of the 7th, in Son of Morning Star to see the stark visual difference...Michael
 
Hi Reb,

This is a subject very dear to my heart. I have been arguing for a number of years that this area of military history is one that is un represented almost totally ignored by today's toy soldier manufacturers. It was though refereshing to see Wm. Hocker showcase a new range of figures at last year's Chicago show that depicted scenes from the early American settlers and associated subjects. I am in the process of writing an article on this subject for inclusion in a forthcoming issue of Toy Soldier Collector magazine and I have also been lobbying my favourite maker to perhaps test the market in this direction and release some much needed figures from this very important period of early American history. A new 54 mm scale range of figures from the Plain Indians War in glorious gloss or matt with both action mounted cavalry and Indians is just what the doctor order! So watch this space who knows you might be pleasantly surprised.

Regards
Martin
 
I'm sorry that I wasn't clear. Yes I mean that I hope that the cavalry is in correct uniform. One of my pet peeves is the placing of NCO stripes or officer's shoulder boards on the campaign shirts. And although it doesn't have anything to do with the Little Big Horn, there was a lot more infantry on the plains than cavalry. We could have the Wagon Box Fight as a release perhaps.
 
Fetterman might be an idea. Uniforms would be no problem considering the time period and the Indians are timeless. Don't think this has been done. -- lancer
 
lancer said:
Fetterman might be an idea. Uniforms would be no problem considering the time period and the Indians are timeless. Don't think this has been done. -- lancer
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Excellent idea lancer-beg to differ just a little on the uniforms as I don't believe it would make much difference as most of Fetterman's Infantry and Grummond's Cavalry were wearing blue greatcoats. Well according to Colonel Carrington's after battle report they were and it was a bleak December with apparently bitter icy winds and thick drifting snow when they marched out of the fort.

But that would make the US Cavalry figures even more interesting coupled with the timeless Indian wearing buffalo robes albeit that a continuation of Carrington's report stated that after the fight most of the Sioux were seen to be wearing the US Blue Overcoats.

Thanks DCN1898 for the clarification of your previous post-guessed it was the uniforms you were referring to and The Wagon Box Fight is a great suggestion. I'll also add the scrap at Adobe Walls as well-there is so much scope within the campaigns/fights of this era.

Reb
 
UKReb said:
Excellent idea lancer-beg to differ just a little on the uniforms as I don't believe it would make much difference as most of Fetterman's Infantry and Grummond's Cavalry were wearing blue greatcoats. Well according to Colonel Carrington's after battle report they were and it was a bleak December with apparently bitter icy winds and thick drifting snow when they marched out of the fort.

But that would make the US Cavalry figures even more interesting coupled with the timeless Indian wearing buffalo robes albeit that a continuation of Carrington's report stated that after the fight most of the Sioux were seen to be wearing the US Blue Overcoats.

Thanks DCN1898 for the clarification of your previous post-guessed it was the uniforms you were referring to and The Wagon Box Fight is a great suggestion. I'll also add the scrap at Adobe Walls as well-there is so much scope within the campaigns/fights of this era.

Reb
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You're right, Reb. Totally slipped my mind about the overcoats in the winter weather. Just meant ACW uniforms would be worn. Still, the winter uniforms would be interesting. -- Al
 
I suggest that WB released figures of cavalry with real uniforms and Hollywood style, and that every collector buys what he wants, so all satisfied:D
 
I agree concerning the BlackHawk metal/matte line of Custer figures. I only bought the first 4 which included Custer and then dropped the line. The quality was just not up to current standards of the major manufacturers. The best Custer metal series that I found was from a company called Artefacts. I believe they were from Australia, but have ceased to exist. They were sold as unpainted castings, but were very accurate with good poses.
 
well i didnt buy blackhawk last stand because there is too little soldiers.It can not be covered by 20-30 figures.They are nicely sculped and everything,maybe the Custer look like he is from a cartoon Loney tunes,but most of the figures are great sculped.
But i wish that there is wild west covered.So taht they also make non combat poses,figures,vilages,forts,saloon,stage coach,pony expres,miners,setlers,pioners,trapers,and off course batlles:
-like fetterman masacre
-last stand
-red cloud wars
-sand creek masacre
-maybe some indians wars(between tribes)
-maybe some famous indian chiefs,....
There is so much they can make.
But i wish that they make plains indians,because woodland indians are already so much on the market,but plains indians are very cool,with their style.
So give us blue soldiers,cheyene,sioux,crows,comanche,kiowas,soshone,blackfoot,Nez perce,Apache(even they are not plains indians but i will like to have a Geronimo and Cochise,Victorio,Chato,.. figure).
My all time favourite indians are Sioux and Cheyene.And the best indian of all time is Crazy Horse,than Geronimo,Sitting Bull,Red Cloud,Chief Joseph,....
 
Well, it looks to me as though WB should consider it at least. The support is obviously out there.

I was having a chat with the owner of Maison Millitaire, based over here in the UK and he had heard that Black Hawk were actually considering extending their Custer range but it appears from other comments on here that perhaps they shouldn't bother.
 
Black hawk is a subsidiary of Andrea miniatures, whose figures are of great prestige and should apply that quality to his figures painted in black hawk.:cool:
 
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