War of 1812 Gun limber (2 Viewers)

Apparently this will be released in sections so you have the option of a 2, 4 or 6 horse drawn horse artillery unit.

I think it is a great way to release it. It gives collectors more options and makes it more affordable.

Cheers

Gazza

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Great job to John ... sure am looking forward to this release. Would be nice to have more gunners and riders to go with this :)

OD
 
I'd been looking forward to seeing these, beacuse a friend of mine told me about them when he visited John in HK the week before last.

I'm sure that they will be snapped up by many Napoleonic collectors wanting a set for thier European battlefield, so lets se what the drivers look like too and the gunners riding on the limber. We may even get a mounted sergeant to comple the crew.

Just a small point with the harnessing, the front pari of horses need to swap sides, as the rider horses have saddles.... just that I notice the finer points of Artillery :)

Can't wait to see the painted set.

John
 
OK..sign me up...Ironically I just yeasterday was playing around with some old Hinchecliffe (sp) kits of limbers looking to adapt them for use with the 24 pounder....big gun, not sure I have what I need. These will be most welcome, especially if the horses can be bought as single sets independent from the limber and additional horses, as I have some other projects that will require only 2 horse sets.

Love this stuff

Walt Damon
 
Definitely painted. But no one has mentioned gun size with the piece and is it British or American. Or is the release just the horses and limber and we add the gun separately ??

I am assuming it is not a BoM - British 12 pounder ;););).

A second question, are the horses moving or at rest? I am unsure from the photos.
 
It is a great idea to offer the limber and horses in modular form. The figures from this line do not fit for me but I will certainly take a close look at this set when it comes out.
 
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Titus ...are you sure this is for 1812?

I understood Raill only to have 2-24 pounders…1-5.5 howitzer…5-6 pounders at Chippewa...

JJ has already produced the 24 and the 6...and this isn't a howitzer...are you sure it's for 1812?

I better read some more...

ooooh hold on...here we go...

It may be for 1812...that may be an unpainted BCHGUN-01, British 6lb Cannon that he used instead of a painted one.

an unpainted one would look better with the unpainted horses and unpainted carraige...it looks like a 6lb.

I guess it is for 1812 but he's just using an unpainted 6lb. British gun...Ken...I don't think this is a new gun...


http://www.armyhistory.org/ahf2.aspx?pgID=877&id=56&exCompID=56

Scott, who was unaware of the British movements, was preparing his brigade for a dress parade on the plain between the Chippewa and Street’s Creek. He quickly ordered his infantry forward on the double along with Towson’s three 12-pounders. He placed the 22d Infantry on his right, the 9th and 11th in the center, and the 25th on the left, with that regiment’s left flank along some woods. Scott then placed Towson’s three guns on the far right of the line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chippawa

Early on July 5, British light infantry, militia and Indians crossed the Chippawa ahead of Riall's main body and began sniping at Scott's outposts from the woods to their west. (Some of them nearly captured Scott, who was having breakfast in a farmhouse.)[12] Brown ordered Porter's brigade and Indians to clear the woods. They did so, but they met Riall's advancing regulars and hastily retreated.
Scott was already advancing from Street's Creek. His artillery (Captain Nathaniel Towson's company, with three 12-pounder guns) deployed on the portage road and opened fire. Riall's own guns (two light 24-pounder guns and a 5.5-inch howitzer) attempted to reply, but Towson's guns destroyed an ammunition wagon and put most of the British guns out of action

Both lines stood and fired repeated volleys; after 25 minutes of this pounding Riall, his own coat pierced by a bullet, ordered a withdrawal. The 1/8th, which had been moving to the right of the other two regiments, formed line to cover their retreat. As they in turn fell back, three British 6-pounder guns came into action to cover their withdrawal, with two more 6-pounders firing from the entrenchments north of the Chippawa.[17] Scott halted his brigade, although some of Porter's Iroquois pursued the British almost to the Chippawa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chippawa

US…Townson’s 3-12 pounders

British…2-24 pounders…1-5.5 howitzer…5-6 pounders

http://www.11thpa.org/documents/FA-History.pdf

The bulk of the War was fought at sea; however, the Americans used artillery in several ground engagements. The
American artillery consisted mostly of six-pounders. At the Battle of Chippewa on July 5, 1814, the American artillery
supporting the charge of General Winfield Scott's brigade was faster and more accurate than the Royal Artillery. In honor
of the victory at Chippewa, the West Point cadets were uniformed in the gray they wear today.
 
This is a British style Napoleonic limber, so I assume either for John's 1812 range or the start of a European Napoleonic range.

Jeff
 
Guys

I arrived very late to the show, as we had visitors and so had just over an hour to get my Christmas goodies, take a few snaps and so did not get to talk to John (who was there) so sorry can not answer the questions.


Cheers

Gazza
 
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Titus ...are you sure this is for 1812?

I understood Raill only to have 2-24 pounders…1-5.5 howitzer…5-6 pounders at Chippewa...

JJ has already produced the 24 and the 6...and this isn't a howitzer...are you sure it's for 1812?

I better read some more...

ooooh hold on...here we go...

It may be for 1812...that may be an unpainted BCHGUN-01, British 6lb Cannon that he used instead of a painted one.

an unpainted one would look better with the unpainted horses and unpainted carraige...it looks like a 6lb.

I guess it is for 1812 but he's just using an unpainted 6lb. British gun...Ken...I don't think this is a new gun...


http://www.armyhistory.org/ahf2.aspx?pgID=877&id=56&exCompID=56

Scott, who was unaware of the British movements, was preparing his brigade for a dress parade on the plain between the Chippewa and Street’s Creek. He quickly ordered his infantry forward on the double along with Towson’s three 12-pounders. He placed the 22d Infantry on his right, the 9th and 11th in the center, and the 25th on the left, with that regiment’s left flank along some woods. Scott then placed Towson’s three guns on the far right of the line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chippawa

Early on July 5, British light infantry, militia and Indians crossed the Chippawa ahead of Riall's main body and began sniping at Scott's outposts from the woods to their west. (Some of them nearly captured Scott, who was having breakfast in a farmhouse.)[12] Brown ordered Porter's brigade and Indians to clear the woods. They did so, but they met Riall's advancing regulars and hastily retreated.
Scott was already advancing from Street's Creek. His artillery (Captain Nathaniel Towson's company, with three 12-pounder guns) deployed on the portage road and opened fire. Riall's own guns (two light 24-pounder guns and a 5.5-inch howitzer) attempted to reply, but Towson's guns destroyed an ammunition wagon and put most of the British guns out of action

Both lines stood and fired repeated volleys; after 25 minutes of this pounding Riall, his own coat pierced by a bullet, ordered a withdrawal. The 1/8th, which had been moving to the right of the other two regiments, formed line to cover their retreat. As they in turn fell back, three British 6-pounder guns came into action to cover their withdrawal, with two more 6-pounders firing from the entrenchments north of the Chippawa.[17] Scott halted his brigade, although some of Porter's Iroquois pursued the British almost to the Chippawa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chippawa

US…Townson’s 3-12 pounders

British…2-24 pounders…1-5.5 howitzer…5-6 pounders

http://www.11thpa.org/documents/FA-History.pdf

The bulk of the War was fought at sea; however, the Americans used artillery in several ground engagements. The
American artillery consisted mostly of six-pounders. At the Battle of Chippewa on July 5, 1814, the American artillery
supporting the charge of General Winfield Scott's brigade was faster and more accurate than the Royal Artillery. In honor
of the victory at Chippewa, the West Point cadets were uniformed in the gray they wear today.

Yes it looks like the 6lb gun to me also. Its defiantly for 1812.
 
Hi Guys,
I had a word with the main man during the London TSS and he told me the limber is 1812, it is British and it will not come with a cannon.
I asked if it would have riders and was told, correctly so, that there is little point having riders when the horse team is stationary (good point). But there is a possibility that there may also be a related figure to buy with the set. Perhaps someone tending the horses??

He also said that it will be produced in module format so that the buyer can purchase horse teams (two at a time) as necessary (something I asked for a while ago when other manufacturers were going on about the cost of such a thing).

This is great news for the Napoleonic collector. Thanks for listening John this is a great prototype so the finished version should look fantastic.:D:D
I'm having at least one of these.:) They should be out in the summer 2011.

My only disappointment at the London TSS was the JJ dealer didn't have any 1812 British artillery soldiers left for me to buy when I got there :((trains and weather delayed me):mad:.
Cheers
Paul
 
Hi Guys,
I had a word with the main man during the London TSS and he told me the limber is 1812, it is British and it will not come with a cannon.
I asked if it would have riders and was told, correctly so, that there is little point having riders when the horse team is stationary (good point). But there is a possibility that there may also be a related figure to buy with the set. Perhaps someone tending the horses??

He also said that it will be produced in module format so that the buyer can purchase horse teams (two at a time) as necessary (something I asked for a while ago when other manufacturers were going on about the cost of such a thing).

This is great news for the Napoleonic collector. Thanks for listening John this is a great prototype so the finished version should look fantastic.:D:D
I'm having at least one of these.:) They should be out in the summer 2011.

My only disappointment at the London TSS was the JJ dealer didn't have any 1812 British artillery soldiers left for me to buy when I got there :((trains and weather delayed me):mad:.
Cheers
Paul

Well I guess this answers everyone's question's... I did not notice it looked stationary.
 
My only disappointment at the London TSS was the JJ dealer didn't have any 1812 British artillery soldiers left for me to buy when I got there :((trains and weather delayed me):mad:.
Cheers
Paul

Paul

I note that you raised the same issue on the CS figures

Not sure if you know, but TMT only got 50% of their delivery for the show because of the severe weather - so you were not alone. These things happen.

When they do arrive I am sure the boys at TMT will be more than happy to take your money :D:D

Cheers

Gazza
 
Paul

I note that you raised the same issue on the CS figures

Not sure if you know, but TMT only got 50% of their delivery for the show because of the severe weather - so you were not alone. These things happen.

When they do arrive I am sure the boys at TMT will be more than happy to take your money :D:D

Cheers

Gazza

Hi Gaz,
Well it's too late now the wife's emptied my wallet Christmas shopping today...........:D:D
Yeah stocks did look pretty low on Saturday. Oh well I can wait.
It's still interesting to see all the new stuff at the show.

Cheers
Paul
 
Hi Guys,
I had a word with the main man during the London TSS and he told me the limber is 1812, it is British and it will not come with a cannon.
I asked if it would have riders and was told, correctly so, that there is little point having riders when the horse team is stationary (good point). But there is a possibility that there may also be a related figure to buy with the set. Perhaps someone tending the horses??

He also said that it will be produced in module format so that the buyer can purchase horse teams (two at a time) as necessary (something I asked for a while ago when other manufacturers were going on about the cost of such a thing).

This is great news for the Napoleonic collector. Thanks for listening John this is a great prototype so the finished version should look fantastic.:D:D
I'm having at least one of these.:) They should be out in the summer 2011.

My only disappointment at the London TSS was the JJ dealer didn't have any 1812 British artillery soldiers left for me to buy when I got there :((trains and weather delayed me):mad:.
Cheers
Paul

Thanks Paul, just what I was hoping for. These may be a must have to add to my Zulu gun that is coming out next year.
 

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