General Custer
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cantinetozzo
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I prefer the early war artillery..(more sober) by the way i don't understand why the pickelhauben of the artyllerymen are pointed and not with the ball..by the way i haven't consulted books so maybe i'm wrong..the officer is a wonderful piece and i'll buy it.
Capitolron
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I really do love that early WWI piece !
It is my hope that Andy will keep the Early War stuff coming - so much to do with 1914 - still have French Troops and Horse drawn Artillery, etc, etc. etc...
It is my hope that Andy will keep the Early War stuff coming - so much to do with 1914 - still have French Troops and Horse drawn Artillery, etc, etc. etc...
VIRIATO
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Hi there,
Yes, I fully agree. The early French would really be nice, with those colorful uniforms. Somehow I suspect the molds for the ACW most recent figures might be of some use here...
Paulo
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I was wondering about the ball topped piklehaulbes, maybe the clue is the number seven painted on the helmet cover - would that be for the 7th artillary regiment or 7th Infantry Regt. Haven't got my August 1914 Orbat handy (not much call for that at work!) but can anyone draw light on the unit?
IMHO the ACW moulds would be better placed for the 1870 conflict, I can't gauge whether this would be popular with our American cousins but I'm sure such a collection would generate a following in Europe. Late 19th century continental European wars are hardly if at all catered for (glossies excepted!).
IMHO the ACW moulds would be better placed for the 1870 conflict, I can't gauge whether this would be popular with our American cousins but I'm sure such a collection would generate a following in Europe. Late 19th century continental European wars are hardly if at all catered for (glossies excepted!).
cantinetozzo
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I agree with you..on the Osprey i have (MAA 394) is clear that the helmet worn by the artillerymen was the M1895 with a ball replacing the spike, so i don't understand those spikes..the 1870 Franco-Prussian war could be really interesting with the great variety of uniforms worn..th german states wore uniforms that in great part were similar in colors to those of Napoleonic times (i think to the black Brunswickers) and the French could b easy to do (the chasseurs uniforms of the ACW were french!).More than that K&C already sculpted something of the period..
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The spike vs. ball question is interesting. Everything I have for illustrated research shows or describes the German M1895 helmet (pickelhaube) with a ball instead of spike for artillery. Furthermore, I have a Britains 7.7 Field Gun set #8924 that has the crew with the ball on the helmet. -- lancer
Evzone
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Don't want to sound like an anorak (Mrs Evzone says it's too late anyway) but I'm sure German and previously Prussian artillary (from at least 1866 onwards) all wore ball top helmets.
Is the French Marine siege of Paris figure a freebie given away in the US?? Lovely miniature, I'd love to see one in the flesh - if anyone wants to make a donation to the Evzone collection your name will be forever feted.
Seriously though, late 19th century Europe is my favourite period, I'd love to see a range produced, I'd even try and pay off my credit cards to afford it!
Is the French Marine siege of Paris figure a freebie given away in the US?? Lovely miniature, I'd love to see one in the flesh - if anyone wants to make a donation to the Evzone collection your name will be forever feted.
Seriously though, late 19th century Europe is my favourite period, I'd love to see a range produced, I'd even try and pay off my credit cards to afford it!
cantinetozzo
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Hi Evzone you can find it on the site www.toysoldiers.fr it's one of the special figures K&C sculpted for some stores around the world..i paid it 32 euros (+ 20 for shipping to Italy) and it's limited to 500 pieces .There is a Legion Etrangere figure too..unfortunately they portrayed in the hands of this figure a gun of the WWI and not the Chassepot but i think it's an error that can be corrected with some paint.
Evzone
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Hello Cantinetozzo ......many thanks for the steer, I ll shall get on the case sharpish (another dent in the household budget I fear!). I'd hope European collectors would support a late 19th century range; I'm sure you'd find miniatures based on Solferino and Magenta interesting.
cantinetozzo
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Yes..i'd really like that..Solferino was one of the bloodiest battles of the century and seeing it (and its carnage)a swiss created the Red Cross..i'd like to have Bersaglieri , they are quite characteristic or the Red Shirts with Garibaldi, even the Austro Hungarian of FeldMarschall Radetzky ..the period was really full of conflicts and struggle for indipendence i think to our Risorgimento or the Greece struggle ..i'm really happy for the Crimea range (i'm a bit slow in collecting it i admit) and i'm a great fan of those IXXth Cent. conflicts too.
Artillery_crazy
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Hi Guys,
This one caught King & Country off balance ....
My passion for artillery in special Victorian and WW1 period artillery rejoiced with the news that King & Country was rolling out new WW1 sets that included WW1 German Artillery units ready to make battle. Even more so since one set is on the later stages of the war, in the characteristic camouflage of those days, with crews already wearing the early version of the model 1916 StahIhelm " Coalscuttle " helmets and the second set depicts the German artillery at the opening stages of the war, as a complement of the existing sets ' On the road to Paris' . The set for the early stages of the war is accompanied by an artillery officer true (to the last button) to the artillery officer corps at the opening salvos of WW1. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of the unit manning the 7.7mm Krupp field gun......King & Country´s research team and Andy´s hawk eye were not as accurate as usual when they gave the 3 man crew of the gun depicting the early part of the WW1 the spiked infantry " Pickehaube" helmet and not the one with the round ball in place of the spike. See attached photos for proof. This was one of the most noticeable distinctions between the two arms. "Spiked " helmets for infantry and " ball ornamented" ones for artillery. The Toy Soldier issue 122 , section letters to the Editor, shows a Britains Premier set, along with some K&C Infantry, where you can see the difference.
With this new release we are left with the bizarre situation of three army soldiers trying to man an artillery piece under the command of an artillery officer.....very surreal to say the least, specially in the Kaiser´s Army. I was surprised by the correct headgear for the officer and confusion on the soldiers´ headgear.
I hope that the mistake is noted by the K&C quality control team and corrected for future releases.
Artillery Crazy
This one caught King & Country off balance ....
My passion for artillery in special Victorian and WW1 period artillery rejoiced with the news that King & Country was rolling out new WW1 sets that included WW1 German Artillery units ready to make battle. Even more so since one set is on the later stages of the war, in the characteristic camouflage of those days, with crews already wearing the early version of the model 1916 StahIhelm " Coalscuttle " helmets and the second set depicts the German artillery at the opening stages of the war, as a complement of the existing sets ' On the road to Paris' . The set for the early stages of the war is accompanied by an artillery officer true (to the last button) to the artillery officer corps at the opening salvos of WW1. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of the unit manning the 7.7mm Krupp field gun......King & Country´s research team and Andy´s hawk eye were not as accurate as usual when they gave the 3 man crew of the gun depicting the early part of the WW1 the spiked infantry " Pickehaube" helmet and not the one with the round ball in place of the spike. See attached photos for proof. This was one of the most noticeable distinctions between the two arms. "Spiked " helmets for infantry and " ball ornamented" ones for artillery. The Toy Soldier issue 122 , section letters to the Editor, shows a Britains Premier set, along with some K&C Infantry, where you can see the difference.
With this new release we are left with the bizarre situation of three army soldiers trying to man an artillery piece under the command of an artillery officer.....very surreal to say the least, specially in the Kaiser´s Army. I was surprised by the correct headgear for the officer and confusion on the soldiers´ headgear.
I hope that the mistake is noted by the K&C quality control team and corrected for future releases.
Artillery Crazy