whitewash or white (1 Viewer)

[redhugh]

What do you think about the winter vechicles, particulaly the german stuff, as to which is more pleasing to the eye , the whitewash look or the solid white painted look... can't make my mind up The few K&C examples I have are the whitewashed rappen, the solid white flakpanzer and my least favourite the yellowish white on the ketterand.. or are there other examples of a "nice winter white scheme"???

 

[OzDigger]

For several months I have been thinking about this issue and personally I prefer the Flakpanzer and the Grille that have weathering over a solid white coloring. The Winter Honour Bound vehicles have a similar grey tinge to the Reppen which may be more authentic but imo they're not as visually appealing as a whiter white with some different colored weathering applied.

 

[fmethorst]

For me it's more about historical accuracy than asthetics. What is the purpose of camouflage? To reduce detection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_camouflage

Whitewash should be applied in such a way as to blend into the environment the vehicle is operating in.

If a vehicle is operating in wide open areas with a full blanket of snow then a solid white application overall makes sense. An example of this includes Tigers shipped directly from the factory for use in the third battle of Kharkov. Even in this configuration whitewash should not appear pure white. Since this was thinned and applied over the underlying paint one can expect some of the underlying color to show through in spots. In addition over time the whitewash will wear off as well as become dirty.

If a vehicle is operating in a forested environment or an area with only light snow coverage a patchy application of whitewash would be more effective than a solid application.

Keep in mind that the German supply situation was strained at the best of times so whitewash was usually in short supply and units often had to improvise. This would also encourage frugal use resulting in very thin coverage.

Now lastly where was it used? There are countless examples of it's use in the east including the last major offensive operations in Hungary (Konrad I,II,III). The west; however, is another story. While there appears to be some evidence to support whitewash use at the tail end of the Battle of the Bulge and subsequent defensive battles in Germany it is far from conclusive. Keep in mind during the opening phases of this battle there was not snow on the ground so it would not make sense to apply whitewash.

Here is an example of what I like whitewash to look like:

 

[Rob]

For me it's more about historical accuracy than asthetics. What is the purpose of camouflage? To reduce detection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_camouflage

Whitewash should be applied in such a way as to blend into the environment the vehicle is operating in.

If a vehicle is operating in wide open areas with a full blanket of snow then a solid white application overall makes sense. An example of this includes Tigers shipped directly from the factory for use in the third battle of Kharkov. Even in this configuration whitewash should not appear pure white. Since this was thinned and applied over the underlying paint one can expect some of the underlying color to show through in spots. In addition over time the whitewash will wear off as well as become dirty.

If a vehicle is operating in a forested environment or an area with only light snow coverage a patchy application of whitewash would be more effective than a solid application.

Keep in mind that the German supply situation was strained at the best of times so whitewash was usually in short supply and units often had to improvise. This would also encourage frugal use resulting in very thin coverage.

Now lastly where was it used? There are countless examples of it's use in the east including the last major offensive operations in Hungary (Konrad I,II,III). The west; however, is another story. While there appears to be some evidence to support whitewash use at the tail end of the Battle of the Bulge and subsequent defensive battles in Germany it is far from conclusive. Keep in mind during the opening phases of this battle there was not snow on the ground so it would not make sense to apply whitewash.

Here is an example of what I like whitewash to look like:

That is a truly cool looking vehicle.I like both types myself.The HB Winter Panther has a cool white/Grey look to it,but i also like the solid white of K&C's Winter Tiger.But i have to say the camo on the Jagd above is just about spot on for me.Very realistic looking indeed.

Rob

 

[thebritfarmer]

I agree with you too Frank, that is what whitewashing should look like anything more and it is just a tank painted white!!! There is a difference !!!

 

[redhugh]

I agree with you too Frank, that is what whitewashing should look like anything more and it is just a tank painted white!!! There is a difference !!!

Hadn't noticed the HB before, looks just about right

 

[Vezzolf]

I agree with you too Frank, that is what whitewashing should look like anything more and it is just a tank painted white!!! There is a difference !!!

I completely agree also with you both......Winter weathering should be subtle therfore adding to realism.......hoping that K/C will pick up on this.....

 

[sammy719]

I really like the look of the whitewash, it just looks battle ready, the all white looks a little to clean and neat to me, esp. if I am doing a winter dio or some kind battle scenerio,.....Sammy

 

[OzDigger]

For several months I have been thinking about this issue and personally I prefer the Flakpanzer and the Grille that have weathering over a solid white coloring. The Winter Honour Bound vehicles have a similar grey tinge to the Reppen which may be more authentic but imo they're not as visually appealing as a whiter white with some different colored weathering applied.

OK guys, I found a 'chicken' option for guys like me that don't really like to repaint potentially valuable models.

I borrowed some White Blackboard chalk from my teacher wife and tried it out on a few models. You can either rub it on thick for an all over White look, or wipe the excess off with your a finger for the see through look. It actually stays on the models pretty well but I would recommend you apply it outdoors as there is a fair bit of collateral chalk dusting involved in the process.

And if you have a number of white models from different manufacturers you can slap some chalk on them to make them more alike.

And of course if you don't like the end result or decide to sell the model you only need to wash the chalk off under a tap.

 

[Warrior]

I much prefer the white wash look over the solid white paint job, it looks more realistic IMO; that Jagdpanther looks incredible........

 

[redhugh]

I've been playing with some weathering kits, that brush on, like makeup ( so my wife tells me), and this is easy to apply and take off