Help! 1. time modelbuilder! (1 Viewer)

The Templar

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What can i use for cleaning figure before putting the parts together and painting?

Just hot water with some soap?

After using a primer, won´t it be best to paint the single parts before glue?

Thans for any advice!:)
 
Warm water and liquid dishwashing soap (a couple of drops), and I use an old toothbrush. Rinse well, pat dry with paper toweling, and let dry to prime.

You could also use cleaners with isopropyl or ammonia, too, to help remove oils and resins from the surface, followed by the soap and water.

I use this technique for plastic kits, too, as well as for metal figures.

Hope that helps!

Prost!
Brad
 
Hi Brad!

It centainly do - thanks! :)

Do you have some comments to the procedure paint/build?
 
That's a good question. Whether to paint all parts, assemble all parts, or assemble and paint some but not others can depend on the kit or figure, and the result you're shooting for.

If it's an Andrea resin kit, for example, or some other resin or plastic kit, with many smaller detailed parts, or a piece of armor or an aircraft, generally, I would prime everything, and paint those areas that would be inaccessible, once assembly has begun.

Same goes for a well-detailed metal figure, especially if I were painting it in conoisseur style.

For my toy soldier figures, such as Staddens/Tradition, or Rose, or Imrie-Risley, Puchala, Dolp, etc, I tend to assemble them as completely as possible, then prime them, then paint them. Only if there is some area that cannot be reached, or cannot be easily painted after assembly, would I paint subassemblies, in that case.

These are just guidelines, of course, and not hard-and-fast rules. But after a while, you get a sense for how to approach a figure or kit.

Hope that helps!

Prost!
Brad
 
If it's an Andrea resin kit, for example, or some other resin or plastic kit, with many smaller detailed parts, or a piece of armor or an aircraft, generally, I would prime everything, and paint those areas that would be inaccessible, once assembly has begun.
These are just guidelines, of course, and not hard-and-fast rules. But after a while, you get a sense for how to approach a figure or kit. Hope that helps!

Once again it helps a lot and once again - thanks! And I take, that even primed - the figure is easy to assemble! (glue) :eek:
 
You'll want to clean any paint from surfaces to be joined, especially it the figure is plastic (eg, styrene). Plastic glues actually melt the material at the join, like a weld for two pieces of metal, and any paint will contaminate the glue and make for a weaker bond. A scrape with a scalpel or hobby knife should be enough to expose the material and allow the glue to work.

For resin, if you're using CA glue (like super glue), I think the principle is the same, I've always revealed the material at the join, to allow the glue to touch the actual material. But I've also used CA glue to attach metal pieces like scabbards, Säbeltaschen, etc, to metal figures that have been primed, without scraping the primer from the spot where the join is.

I would also add pins to the joints, if there are no locator pins cast into the piece. So, at the arm joint, it's a good idea to drill a small hole in the arm and in the shoulder area, and use a piece of wire as a pin, and flow the glue into hole and onto the pin. Pins will make such joints for resin or metal figures much stronger, than simple butt-joints of flat surface on flat surface.

And if it's a metal piece, and you're handy enough with a soldering iron, you can even solder (dtsch, löten) the pieces together. I'm not experienced enough to do that for any but very basic joins (2 halves of a horse kit, or soldering a figure to a base from the bottom). Not for the faint of heart...
 
With some kits you will need a hobby knife or file to remove flash. If you paint the figure in pieces you might have to do some touch up afterwards because of dripping glue or if you have gaps that need to be filled in like where the arm connects to the shoulder.
 
Hi,

If it is a metal figure, one step is to soak it in acetic acid (vinegar) for a few hours. This really cleans up the metal of any casting residue before rinsing with soap and water.
For toy soldiers, usually it is best to preassemble the figure before priming. This way, there should be minimal handling of the figure during the painting stage.

Rgds Victor
 
Re: Help! 1. time modelbuilder! ** The Final Result**

Finish at last - it was quite a job, but in consideration that this is my fist, i´m pretty pleased! :) Feel free to judge!

The pics aren´t super, he´s much better live!
 

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I think you have done a very good job. Did you use matte or gloss paints. Hopefully I will soon be painting a few figures myself.
 
I think you have done a very good job. Did you use matte or gloss paints. Hopefully I will soon be painting a few figures myself.

Hey - and thank you very much! Matte!! Gloss isn´t "in" at my place! :p

Vallejo Game Color - acryl! did the job!
 
Nice job Templar, especially for your first time, Doing it yourself I find gives great satisfaction.
Ray
 
Thanks for the link, they have some interesting figures in their catalog.

Do you have ambitions maybe of making enough figures for a diorama?

Prost!
Brad
 
Here´s some more pics of my first templar and my second templar too. I´m very pleased with no. two!

Hope you like them!
 

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Re: Help! 1. time modelbuilder! ** The Final Result**

Finish at last - it was quite a job, but in consideration that this is my fist, i´m pretty pleased! :) Feel free to judge!

The pics aren´t super, he´s much better live!

Heinrich I think its great, especially for a first attempt. After reading this thread with its very helpful responses I am seriously thinking about getting a kit and trying my hand at this. Its Saturday morning and I think I am going to go across town to a little store called the Last Square where I can but kits like these. Mike
 
Re: Help! 1. time modelbuilder! ** The Final Result**

Heinrich I think its great, especially for a first attempt. After reading this thread with its very helpful responses I am seriously thinking about getting a kit and trying my hand at this. Its Saturday morning and I think I am going to go across town to a little store called the Last Square where I can but kits like these. Mike

Hi Mike!

You should! But beware! It will take much time and much patience! The other evening i said to my wife, that i was sorry because i´ve spend the compelte evening painting and she told me "better painting than staying at a bar" - not that i use to go to bars, but i found it sweet - i love her! :)

Good luck with it - Mike!

Best regards

Heinrich
 

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