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[Spitfrnd]

Tinbay.com has Napoleonic Russian mounted figures for about 120.00. I have one of their Iniskilling Dragoons and some infantry figures. Tinbay does very nice work. On the down side, there is about a two month wait for your figure.

I think and hope you are correct since I just ordered two from them. I was counting the S&H which was about $15 per figure. No question FL is a bargain. Yes I know you can pay much more and it is for each of us a question of dimishing returns. For me the Tinbay Russians are about the limit.

 

[DCN1898]

The last two infantry figures that I ordered were priced at 12.00 each for shipping. They are pricey but very well done figures. They also fit the best with K&C figures in my opinion

 

[Spitfrnd]

The last two infantry figures that I ordered were priced at 12.00 each for shipping. They are pricey but very well done figures. They also fit the best with K&C figures in my opinion

Yes, S&H is more for mounted figures. I hope they fit well with FL actually.

 

[APACHEJOL]

First legion may not be classed as connoisseur but certainly equal to it without the st petersburg price tags so i hope they stay that way.

This company first legion I know nothing of them. Are you telling me that they are as good as an aeroart figure for half the price? Do they only sell Naps or do they do other ranges?

 

[petebuster1]

This company first legion I know nothing of them. Are you telling me that they are as good as an aeroart figure for half the price? Do they only sell Naps or do they do other ranges?

Having collected aeroart some time ago i would say yes,i gave aeroart up as the prices were far too high imo for what your getting,no matter how well sculpted and painted, they are still metal soldiers not gold and you have to draw the line somewhere.
Yes i think they are equal as least.you will see new ranges soon

 

[thebritfarmer]

This company first legion I know nothing of them. Are you telling me that they are as good as an aeroart figure for half the price? Do they only sell Naps or do they do other ranges?

You haven't heard of First Legion

I would check out their section of the forum for more details and also their website. Currently they do Naps and have just announced the new Samurai series.

 

[VIRIATO]

Just because they are "russian" doesn't necessarily mean they are connoisseur figures. Aeroart single figures run from $125 up. Mounted between $300-800. First Legion is a great bargain.

Would you say that Aeroart or Kolobob or Arsenyev are in the same league as First Legion? I have seen none of these figures live, although I have two Aeroart Romans on order, but from comparing photos I'd say there still is some difference in quality justifying at least part of the price difference. Have you compared them live? Many thanks for any info.

Paulo

 

[VIRIATO]

I believe Louis made a very interesting point: in fact, some of the detail on a connoisseur or near connoisseur figure can get a little lost on display or in a diorama. I often think about it: we are talking about 54mm or 60mm figures, is the connoisseur detail some kind of «overkill» on such a small figure? Yes I believe there is some quality difference, and I am in the process of testing it with some connoisseur figures, but the question for me remains, is it worth paying such extra $$$? My first connoisseur like figure is a Russian painted Pegaso kit of a Roman Auxiliary, bought from Germany at a reasonable price I would say. This figure undoubtedly has better painting and sculpting than K&C's (faces and hands and body are better and so is the painting, no black lines whatsoever). But on display such details tend to get a little lost and I would never think of building a large diorama with such figures (I could not afford to do so, by the way). Indeed there is a problem with most manufacturer photos: they overblow detail and thus don't show us the real thing. So, to me the best thing is to view figures live or check Treefrog's wonderful 3D photos or other collectors' photos on this forum. What looks like a badly done face on an overblown manufacturer photo does get a little lost on display.
My very personal feeling right now is that connoisseur is for beautiful individual crusaders and Romans but if I want figure groups for WWII or WWI K&C is the way to go (always stunning figures for these periods). About Naps, a lot remains to be seen, and I have chosen glossy Naps (my favorites are from Imperial).

Unfocused collector,
Paulo

 

[petebuster1]

Would you say that Aeroart or Kolobob or Arsenyev are in the same league as First Legion? I have seen none of these figures live, although I have two Aeroart Romans on order, but from comparing photos I'd say there still is some difference in quality justifying at least part of the price difference. Have you compared them live? Many thanks for any info.

Paulo

I collected quite a lot from kolobob and he had/has different quality variants as your probably aware,i also found him a bit dodgy i bought a Roman Triarii i paid £95, 3 weeks later he had a so called lesser quality Triarrii exactly the same which i also bought for £39.When it arrived the only difference was a couple of colour variations,although in many cases there were clear quality differences. In some the only great difference was the price.
In all though i think the Russian kolobob etc figures are better in quality but not by a lot,and not enough to justify the price differences.These as mentioned below are really for individual display,simply because of price but if you could afford it i would have to disagree with the comment below in that if you had large numbers on a large diorama display you'd have the most realistic diorama you could have.The detail would stand out rather than be hidden

 

[VIRIATO]

I collected quite a lot from kolobob and he had/has different quality variants as your probably aware,i also found him a bit dodgy i bought a Roman Triarii i paid £95, 3 weeks later he had a so called lesser quality Triarrii exactly the same which i also bought for £39.When it arrived the only difference was a couple of colour variations,although in many cases there were clear quality differences. In some the only great difference was the price.
In all though i think the Russian kolobob etc figures are better in quality but not a lot,and not enough to justify the price differences.

Hmm, thanks for sharing, I am waiting on a Roman figure coming from there, a Tatyana Gapchenko figure of the lower quality variant.

Cheers,
Paulo

 

[petebuster1]

Hmm, thanks for sharing, I am waiting on a Roman figure coming from there, a Tatyana Gapchenko figure of the lower quality variant.

Cheers,
Paulo

I did get some fantastic figures from him,imo the best ive ever had but in the end the prices were too much and you'll be hard pressed to get your money back on re selling them.

 

[petebuster1]

Hmm, thanks for sharing, I am waiting on a Roman figure coming from there, a Tatyana Gapchenko figure of the lower quality variant.

Cheers,
Paulo

Just be aware the Elite figures are the best and IF they are elite you cant get better but with some of his figures some are true Elite figures and with others theres little or no difference between ELITE and TOP apart from the price

 

[Spitfrnd]

I believe Louis made a very interesting point: in fact, some of the detail on a connoisseur or near connoisseur figure can get a little lost on display or in a diorama. I often think about it: we are talking about 54mm or 60mm figures, is the connoisseur detail some kind of «overkill» on such a small figure? ...

Yes Louis usually makes interesting points. Yes he is correct that at some point the rule of dimishing returns applies to the differences in figures for the price; just as it does in most things. For me using Aeroart for a Napoleonic display would be excessive and unnecessary; not to mention that their action poses are in fact quite limited at best. Trust me, that does not apply to First Legion. You just have to see a massed display of their French versus their British to see what I mean. If you haven't done this yet, I encourage you to do so before you decide how justified their price is to you. To me they are quite a bargin.

 

[petebuster1]

Yes Louis usually makes interesting points. Yes he is correct that at some point the rule of dimishing returns applies to the differences in figures for the price; just as it does in most things. For me using Aeroart for a Napoleonic display would be excessive and unnecessary; not to mention that their action poses are in fact quite limited at best. Trust me, that does not apply to First Legion. You just have to see a massed display of their French versus their British to see what I mean. If you haven't done this yet, I encourage you to do so before you decide how justified their price is to you. To me they are quite a bargin.

Agree the pictures of their formations are the proof in the pudding and though i wouldn't call them bargains, they are value for money at the moment though might be limited on how many cavalry figures one can get at $100. They are equal imo to aeroart and certainly better for poses. My only concern is that the british went up £10 here and $10 from the french line,bavarian figures so i hope that doesn't happen too often too quickly(the 1st rise was pretty quick),it wouldn't take long for them to become the same in price.

 

[VIRIATO]

Just be aware the Elite figures are the best and IF they are elite you cant get better but with some of his figures some are true Elite figures and with others theres little or no difference between ELITE and TOP apart from the price

Thanks again for sharing, right now the only ones I ever think of occasionaly getting are the TOP ones, not ELITE. How would I pay for my Imperial Productions or Britains glossy guys? Also K&C's WWI is lurking, lurking around, filling me with wishes...

Regards,
Paulo

 

[VIRIATO]

Yes Louis usually makes interesting points. Yes he is correct that at some point the rule of dimishing returns applies to the differences in figures for the price; just as it does in most things. For me using Aeroart for a Napoleonic display would be excessive and unnecessary; not to mention that their action poses are in fact quite limited at best. Trust me, that does not apply to First Legion. You just have to see a massed display of their French versus their British to see what I mean. If you haven't done this yet, I encourage you to do so before you decide how justified their price is to you. To me they are quite a bargin.

Yes, from what I see on photos these FL figures look absolutely stunning. But till now, between them and K&C Naps, my choice is... IMPERIAL PRODUCTIONS NAPS!!!!

Cheers,
Paulo

 

[petebuster1]

Yes, from what I see on photos these FL figures look absolutely stunning. But till now, between them and K&C Naps, my choice is... IMPERIAL PRODUCTIONS NAPS!!!!

Cheers,
Paulo

oh dear i do hate those glossy things but each to there own, enjoy

 

[VIRIATO]

oh dear i do hate those glossy things but each to there own, enjoy

Curiously I happen to appreciate both matte and glossy figures if they appeal to me.Which makes my life a lot harder.

 

[petebuster1]

Curiously I happen to appreciate both matte and glossy figures if they appeal to me.Which makes my life a lot harder.

Its hard enough with all the choice just liking the matts must be a nightmare liking both

 

[petebuster1]

Now have some cuirassiers and scots greys and must say very impressed, not perfect horses but much improved on some previous ones