Scale Differences Suck - A Rant (1 Viewer)

[Phantom Warrior]

So now we have WW2 manufacturers as follows:

K&C and Figarti AFVs at 1/30 and Figures at 1/28 except for the old K&C AFVs which are 1/32 and the old Figarti figures which are 1/32

FL with AFVs and figures both at 1/30

FOV AFVs at 1/32

And CS now with AFVs and Figures at 1/28 with older models at various scales from 1/30 - 1/28.

That is really helpful to collectors trying to put together scenarios or even just posing AFVs and figures from different manufacturers and figures together or even even AFVs from the same manufacturer produced at different times. Instead of things consolidating toward a common scale, the past 2 years has seen scales diverge.

That has an impact on which and how many AFVs I buy and from who. (take that to mean less)

Terry

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I can appreciate that the old K&C AFVs were 1/32 while their figures were 1/28 to show detail But the figures were much too big for the AFVs. So I can see Why K&C increased the AFV size to 1/30.

HB AFVs were only 1/30 as were their figures. Their figures look small next to the 1/28 K&C figures. HB no longer makes AFVs but their figure sets are now close to the K&C 1/28 scale.

Figarti started making AFVs in 1/32 which matched the older K&C AFVs, but their figures were also 1/32 which were very small compared to the K&C 1/28. For the last few years, Figarti AFVs are 1/30 and their figures near 1/28 to match K&C.

TGM figures are 1/28 and were meant to be compatible with the K&C 1/28.

FL has a limited number of AFVs but they are all 1/30 and so are the figures that go with them.

CS started out with AFVs and vehicles which were 1/28 but scaled the AFVs back to about 1/30. Now it seems they are returning to 1/28 AFVs to match the 1/28 figures??

Does any of this make sense?

Terry

 

[maddadicus]

So now we have WW2 manufacturers as follows:

K&C and Figarti AFVs at 1/30 and Figures at 1/28 except for the old K&C AFVs which are 1/32 and the old Figarti figures which are 1/32

FL with AFVs and figures both at 1/30

FOV AFVs at 1/32

And CS now with AFVs and Figures at 1/28 with older models at various scales from 1/30 - 1/28.

That is really helpful to collectors trying to put together scenarios or even just posing AFVs and figures from different manufacturers and figures together or even even AFVs from the same manufacturer produced at different times. Instead of things consolidating toward a common scale, the past 2 years has seen scales diverge.

That has an impact on which and how many AFVs I buy and from who. (take that to mean less)

Terry

A few months back, during the scale discussion wars, I did not care, because all the mfg. seemed to put out size complimentary vehicles. I was able to pick out favorites from no matter who and know that they could look good together. CS was one of those who started off totally off scale with their figures and vehicles to a point where most collectors rejected them. As their experience grew, so did their sizing of figures to conform to the status quo of mfg. out there. We always knew that K/C had oversized figures with close to 1/30 maybe scale, but the accuracy police started to get the message to them that proper as advertised size does matter. His vehicles ,now mostly hold up to 1/30 scale scrutiny. CS WAS ALREADY THERE WITH THEIR TIGER 1 AND MOST OF THEIR RELEASES. Go to the CS section and you will find their model measurements were near exact to 1/30 scale formulation. So now comes the release of Godzilla Stuart, Gargantuan Panzer 4 , and Humongeous Sherman. DO THE MATH, they all compute out to 1/28. So what happened. Maybe a mistake at the factory screwed up the Stuart release. But instead of fessing up, we got the Tiger 1 really was not 1/30 ( Sorry !) but everything from this moment on will be (wink, wink..). We have been thrown a new scale that does not fit in now. The Tiger 1 turned out to be the last real CS 1/30 scale tank .( The Panther seems OK, so that might be the last one..It is our choice, do the math before buying or do not care..Michael

 

[Andanna]

I agree full heartedly.

In addition, as a person who is also interested in kit models from Dragon and Tamiya, you get 1/35.

I really hate that as I do not mix scales and need a different display case for each scale.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I agree full heartedly.

In addition, as a person who is also interested in kit models from Dragon and Tamiya, you get 1/35.

I really hate that as I do not mix scales and need a different display case for each scale.

One case per scale seems to be the only way to maintain scale consistency. But that gets overly complicated and really limits choice. And how do you know what the scale really is until the model is in your hands and you can measure it?

It is virtually impossible to collect matching AFVs and figures in the same scale, even if staying with a single manufacturer. It looks like 1/30 really means anywhere from 1/32 to 1/28. And with so many models having been produced over the last 5 years, I don't see it ever being sorted out.

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

I think that Mitch's comment in the CS thread started by Michael is generally true: manufacturers generally make AFVs as they interepret scale.

 

[Mitch]

I don't really know if different display cabinets are needed what I do own, in respective camps (so to speak) when I do dio's I have the benefit of being able to mix figures with any manufacturers AFV's and thats fine by me but, I never mixed AFV's toghether not due to scale reasons just that IMO each manufacturer has their own unique stamp and, I like those differences however, they are really noticable for me so, I keep them seperate. I can live with some of the older smaller K&C sets and with the new CS versions as the detail overcomes a few mm's here or there.

All down to personal choice but, I don't think I would think its time to stop buying CS because of this when the detail is good and they match with several manufacturers figures.
Mitch

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I don't really know if different display cabinets are needed what I do own, in respective camps (so to speak) when I do dio's I have the benefit of being able to mix figures with any manufacturers AFV's and thats fine by me but, I never mixed AFV's toghether not due to scale reasons just that IMO each manufacturer has their own unique stamp and, I like those differences however, they are really noticable for me so, I keep them seperate. I can live with some of the older smaller K&C sets and with the new CS versions as the detail overcomes a few mm's here or there.

All down to personal choice but, I don't think I would think its time to stop buying CS because of this when the detail is good and they match with several manufacturers figures.
Mitch

I wasn't singling out CS. This is just the latest.

It's all of them.

Terry

 

[Mitch]

Terry...

Comments not aimed at you just shooting the breeze
Mitch