ID'ing a mystery figure (1 Viewer)

[theBaron]

Morning, all!

I'm helping a member of the HZ-Forum ID a mystery casting that he found. We're trying to identify the maker, and the subject. Here are the pics:

As far as the subject goes, we think we've got him identified as Napoleonic and a Prussian. It's hard to tell whether the casting is intended to portray an ensign, or if the flagstaff was added later, and it's hard to tell if the finial is supposed to be the Prussian eagle or an Iron Cross. But the sculpted detail suggests a Prussian infantryman of the later Napoleonic period.

As far as the maker goes, we've very few clues. The figures is approximately 90mm, and it's been suggested that it could be from Tradition (which I tend to agree with) or possibly a larger-scale Heyde figure (I'm not so sure). The base is molded with a distinct step, that I have only seen previously on 54mm figures from ANI.

So, I thought that I should put this to our Treefrog Street Irregulars and see what we might come up with.

Oh, and here's the original thread at HZ, in case anyone would like to see the original discussion:

http://www.hz-forum.eu/forum_2012/showthread.php?911-Wer-kann-mir-was-zu-dieser-Figur-sagen

(albeit in German)

Thanks in advance, prosit!
Brad

 

[trooper]

Definitely NOT Tradition. Trooper

 

[johnnybach]

For once - I think it might aid recognition if the figure was stripped of the mess that's covering it. Then maybe we could tell, what is the original figure underneath - and maybe what has perhaps been added later?? jb

 

[christopher]

Hello Brad this is 90 mm from the company figures createc Germany. I think that made ​​Nowikoff then the Master (1995) has. I am in possession of these forms up to 1.fon are these figures are still a drummer Grenadier Musketeer and Hussar Kürrassier Ulan with 3 different Pferden.Auf wish I can sometimes inserting images. Greeting Christopher

 

[theBaron]

For once - I think it might aid recognition if the figure was stripped of the mess that's covering it. Then maybe we could tell, what is the original figure underneath - and maybe what has perhaps been added later?? jb

Hi, John, yes, we made the same suggestion over at HZ, too, but the owner hadn't posted if he's stripped it.

Hello Brad this is 90 mm from the company figures createc Germany. I think that made ​​Nowikoff then the Master (1995) has. I am in possession of these forms up to 1.fon are these figures are still a drummer Grenadier Musketeer and Hussar Kürrassier Ulan with 3 different Pferden.Auf wish I can sometimes inserting images. Greeting Christopher

Servus, Christopher, ich bedanke mich, gut getroffen! Das melde ich drüben im HZ-Forum, mal sehen, was die andern dazu sagen. Thanks, Christopher, I think that's it.

Thanks everyone, we'll see what the guys over at HZ say. I can see very easily that it's a figure that has been offered by different makers. I think of Rylit's catalog, and her figures that were then sold through Archiv-Verlag, among other vendors.

Thanks for the assist, prosit!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

Christopher, wenn Du ja 'n paar Bilder hast, bitte, kannst Du sie hochladen? Ich bin doch neugierig, die andern zu sehen. Ich bedanke mich im voraus.

Prost!
Brad

 

[christopher]

Christopher, wenn Du ja 'n paar Bilder hast, bitte, kannst Du sie hochladen? Ich bin doch neugierig, die andern zu sehen. Ich bedanke mich im voraus.

Prost!
Brad

Hallo Brad Du kennst Andreas Trost ? komisch der müsste diese Figuren und Formen kennen, ich lade mal ein paar Bilder
gruß Christopher
Hello Brad you know Andreas trost? he must be know this Figures and Moulds,i´ll send a few of pictures
greetings Christopher

 

[theBaron]

Wahnsinn, es war der Trosti selbst, der Heyde vorgeschlagen hat!

Crazy, it was Trosti who suggested Heyde!

In the meantime, the owner, Gerald at HZ, found what we think is the kit, at Scholtz' Berliner Zinnfiguren website:

http://www.zinnfigur.com/product_in...id=opp8tkhu7m00qmqastllvre0a2&sort=1d&ID=1260

Gerald says thanks for the help, danke sehr!

Prost!
Brad

 

[johnnybach]

That certainly does look to have identified the figure Brad. One thing that amazed me, however, is that someone would spend €63 for the unpainted casting (the current price) - and then have someone do a rather poor painting job on him - after spending that sort of money.

Makes you think. jb

 

[christopher]

That certainly does look to have identified the figure Brad. One thing that amazed me, however, is that someone would spend €63 for the unpainted casting (the current price) - and then have someone do a rather poor painting job on him - after spending that sort of money.

Makes you think. jb

Hy it is not a Figure it is a Mold to self casting dozend from Figures
greetings Christopher

 

[christopher]

Hy Brad look at www.creart-ver.de he have some of the 90mm Moulds
greetings Christopher

 

[christopher]

hy Brad i´ll send a picture of my 90 mm Kavallerie i have the Infanterie too Standart Bearer, Drummer, Musketeer and Grenadier. The Drumm is created from A.T:
I send pictures from The Infanterie this days
greetings Christopher

 

[christopher]

hy at all ,here 2 pics from my last 90mm Conversion the Original Figures where a Prussian Ulan and i conversed to an french red Lanceir at1813
i hope one Day finished the Figure:rolleyes2:
greetings christopher

 

[theBaron]

Danke sehr, Christopher, auch für die Links! Figuren also selber gegossen, oder von Bausäten umgearbeitet bzw “gekitbashed”?

Prost!
Brad

 

[christopher]

Danke sehr, Christopher, auch für die Links! Figuren also selber gegossen, oder von Bausäten umgearbeitet bzw “gekitbashed”?

Prost!
Brad

Good morning self casting from the original mold and conversed /selbst gegossen aus den original formen und anschliesend umgebaut
greetings Christopher