ACW Ironclads (1 Viewer)

[W T Allison II]

With all of the interest in ACW figures, wonder why there are no Ironclads? Tommy

 

[maddadicus]

With all of the interest in ACW figures, wonder why there are no Ironclads? Tommy

Absolutely love ACW Ironclads, even to the point of making 1/32ish scale ships.....Michael

 

[Scott]

 

[aujj65]

With all of the interest in ACW figures, wonder why there are no Ironclads? Tommy

That could all be changing as this prototype was on the WBritains stand at the London show in december 2011! I know it's a Mortar Barge but if the Nile Gunboat is anything to go by then this will be ^&cool ^&cool.

Jeff

 

[maddadicus]

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Were you watching "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" again for the 100th time and got bored^&grin. Silly, if the Union had these, there would have been no Fredericksburg or Cold Harbor. Michael

 

[theBaron]

With all of the interest in ACW figures, wonder why there are no Ironclads? Tommy

While there is a buzz about them, and interest, think about the cost to produce one, the number of collectors who would buy one, and then the sale price the maker needs to recover the costs. I imagine that that might be a reason that there haven't been many made commercially up to now.

Someone like Maddadicus could probably set himself up to make them on commission and take advantage of the demand that's out there. There's always room in our hobby's market for a home manufacturer.

Prost!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

I should add that seeing Mike's builds over the past few years gave me the idea to make a German gunboat in Africa, circa 1900, as a future project. I don't think any commercial maker would ever make a subject like that, there's probably not enough demand.

Prost!
Brad

 

[thebritfarmer]

Was there not one on the Britains stand?

 

[maddadicus]

I should add that seeing Mike's builds over the past few years gave me the idea to make a German gunboat in Africa, circa 1900, as a future project. I don't think any commercial maker would ever make a subject like that, there's probably not enough demand.

Prost!
Brad

If you have a photo, I would be happy to give you some ideas to find ready made stuff to easily build the ship..Michael

 

[maddadicus]

While there is a buzz about them, and interest, think about the cost to produce one, the number of collectors who would buy one, and then the sale price the maker needs to recover the costs. I imagine that that might be a reason that there haven't been many made commercially up to now.

Someone like Maddadicus could probably set himself up to make them on commission and take advantage of the demand that's out there. There's always room in our hobby's market for a home manufacturer.

Prost!
Brad

At one time their was an outfit that was making 1/32 scale ACW mortar barges using foam from molds. Didn't Conte make their viking and pirate ships from foam? A company could easily produce some of the more simpler Ironclads using foam as in some scenics, make them 1/32 close, unpainted at a reasonable price. Michael

 

[GICOP]

These were made by a fellow forum member steveemmo

http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/album.php?albumid=677

Cheers

Martyn

 

[jazzeum]

I couldn't think of Steve's name so thanks for posting the link. Steve's models look excellent and I seem to recall that he brings them to shows. They look so good, however, that I would worry about shipment.

 

[theBaron]

If you have a photo, I would be happy to give you some ideas to find ready made stuff to easily build the ship..Michael

I think you already have, in your builds--Michael's and AC Moore ^&grin

I recall seeing someone use grommets for portholes, for example-was that you?

I've got a stock of luan plywood scraps for projects like this. The tricky part with mine is that the shape will be very tapered at the stern and the bow, almost like a convex lens. But my design is inspired basically by the Koenigin Luisa from "The African Queen".

Prost!
Brad

 

[maddadicus]

I think you already have, in your builds--Michael's and AC Moore ^&grin

I recall seeing someone use grommets for portholes, for example-was that you?

I've got a stock of luan plywood scraps for projects like this. The tricky part with mine is that the shape will be very tapered at the stern and the bow, almost like a convex lens. But my design is inspired basically by the Koenigin Luisa from "The African Queen".

Prost!
Brad

Good luck on the hull. This is the actual ship, the Queen Luisa was modeled on. MV Liemba was a lake steamer with a 105mm gun stuck on it. From Wiki..Michael

 

[Scott]

Were you watching "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" again for the 100th time and got bored^&grin. Silly, if the Union had these, there would have been no Fredericksburg or Cold Harbor. Michael

Boy was I disappointed inn that movie's "tank" ! WW One uniforms in 1899. My Ironclad is a broken Steve Weston tank that I got on sale. A SF story I photographed for my blog has the "Emancipator" breaking the lines at Petersburg and winning the war in 1864.

54mm navy ironclads, in scale, would take up a whole table or shelf. There's a good number of navy figures out there to crew such a model.

 

[maddadicus]

Boy was I disappointed inn that movie's "tank" ! WW One uniforms in 1899. My Ironclad is a broken Steve Weston tank that I got on sale. A SF story I photographed for my blog has the "Emancipator" breaking the lines at Petersburg and winning the war in 1864.

54mm navy ironclads, in scale, would take up a whole table or shelf. There's a good number of navy figures out there to crew such a model.

Generally a legit 1/32 scale clad would be 36" plus. In my builds, I shorten the length by 6" but try to keep reasonable heights for figure placement. I would love Steve's skill and my blueprints. What ever happened to the ship builders who did K/C's San Pablo? Maybe a truncated scale clad or gunboat might not be that expensive a commission. I am fast running out of free time, good eyesight, nimble fingers, and wanna do it spirit to build another...:redface2: Michael

 

[W T Allison II]

This is Trophy's CSA "Leopard" gunboat. It measures 36" by 10" which fits on my glass shelves of 48" by 21". I envisioned something about 24" in length since the height was not that much in matte of course. Tommy

 

[Scott]

Generally a legit 1/32 scale clad would be 36" plus. In my builds, I shorten the length by 6" but try to keep reasonable heights for figure placement. I would love Steve's skill and my blueprints. What ever happened to the ship builders who did K/C's San Pablo? Maybe a truncated scale clad or gunboat might not be that expensive a commission. I am fast running out of free time, good eyesight, nimble fingers, and wanna do it spirit to build another...:redface2: Michael

I understand from ship model builders that if you put figures on a model it becomes a diorama. Locally one of the country's premier ship model builders, Eric Ronberg, puts figures on his models, so it's OK with me as well.

My opinion is that an ironclad that would hold 54mm figures would be more of a display base for those figures equal to a building facade. Scale and perfect detail wouldn't be as important as in a scale model of just the ship. In the 'toy" universe it's OK to see the bases of the figures on the display.

 

[Scott]

This is Trophy's CSA "Leopard" gunboat. It measures 36" by 10" which fits on my glass shelves of 48" by 21". I envisioned something about 24" in length since the height was not that much in matte of course. Tommy

Now that is "neat!" The CSA and US had lots of these little craft on the rivers and coastal areas. This size is much better than to try building the size of the USS Cumberland (not and ironclad) . thanks for posting this.

 

[W T Allison II]

Now that is "neat!" The CSA and US had lots of these little craft on the rivers and coastal areas. This size is much better than to try building the size of the USS Cumberland (not and ironclad) . thanks for posting this.

Thanks Scott. This is the USS "Eagle" by Trophy. Rowboat Navy is by Tedtoy and USS "Turtle" of ARW is by Wm. Hocker. More closeups in my ACW album if you are interested. Tommy