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PolarBear

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This WWI era photo should hopefully calm the seas of worrying about varying sizes of figures from different manufacturers or within the products of an individual company ^&grin

The private on the left looks a lot like Basil "Don't mention the War" Fawlty.
 

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PolarBear said:
This WWI era photo should hopefully calm the seas of worrying about varying sizes of figures from different manufacturers or within the products of an individual company ^&grin

The private on the left looks a lot like Basil "Don't mention the War" Fawlty.
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^&grin

Look at that, he's the Kaiser's bookend! Has the bigger guy got his arm impaled on him?:wink2:

Rob
 
Rivet counters please note that the rifles are the correct size and don't vary in length between the two men.^&grin -- Al
 
lancer said:
But the big guy has more buttons.:wink2: -- Al
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Isn't button counting pretty much the same as rivet counting :rolleyes2:

That's all we need Lancer, is another way of determining scale. Is the model 6 buttons tall or 4 buttons tall. What is the international standard for button spacing. Can large buttons make a model look shorter.

Lancer - you have opened another can of worms :p

Terry
 
Phantom Warrior said:
Isn't button counting pretty much the same as rivet counting :rolleyes2:

That's all we need Lancer, is another way of determining scale. Is the model 6 buttons tall or 4 buttons tall. What is the international standard for button spacing. Can large buttons make a model look shorter.

Lancer - you have opened another can of worms :p

Terry
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That's a good one :salute::
I love it ^&grin ^&grin ^&grin
Konrad
 
Phantom Warrior said:
Isn't button counting pretty much the same as rivet counting :rolleyes2:

That's all we need Lancer, is another way of determining scale. Is the model 6 buttons tall or 4 buttons tall. What is the international standard for button spacing. Can large buttons make a model look shorter.

Lancer - you have opened another can of worms :p

Terry
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Worms is me specialty.{sm3} -- Al
 
We actually did this at my military school with the shortest 7th grader and this tall junior whose parents where in the NBA and WNB respectively.
 
"Tallest on the right, shortest on the left. In threes, number" :salute::
 
Must run in the family. Here are their respective Uncles - Lofti unt Shorti.

I wonder if they had separate trenches????{sm4} jb

 
You are right of course Randy, size does vary in the real world, but I still feel something is not right when I see a couple together for instance, with a the female towering over the male, just an old school thing expecting the Male to be more powerful, which all translates that in the eye of the beholder the balance needs to be there for the LOOK, to be right. For me the figures must be fairly uniform, so for me I cannot easily pass of that the smaller figure is ok because he presents a smaller person, but each to their own if it works. Robin.
 
There is not just the height difference that bothers some but also the bulk of the figure.I know that there are fat (me!) and skinny people but when you look at different manufacturers figures you can tell the difference.It's something that I can't put into words but you can see that they don't fit together.
Mark
 
At least the little guy won't be sticking his head over the parapet and getting a bullet through it!
 
Scale on toy soldiers is different from scale on AFVs. We have accurate measurements of AFVs and using them can accurately determine the scale of a model of that AFV. Not so with toy soldiers. It's because bigger scale AFVs are proportionately larger in every measure than a smaller scale AFV. If the larger model is 20% longer than the smaller model, then so is the width and height 20% longer. That's not true for people.

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I printed out this photo and took some measurements. The big person is 36% taller; his arms are 34% longer. His legs are 55% longer. But his chest is only 20% wider and his face only 18% wider. A 60mm figure is 11% taller than the same figure done in 54mm and so are all the other dimensions including chest width and head size. Peoples body measurements between tall and short people don't vary by the same proportion, but they do vary by the same proportion in figures.

That's why in the photo, even with such a big difference in size, both people look like 1:1 scale. While a 1:35 scale figure looks like a different scale than a 1:28 scale figure and not just a smaller person.

Terry
 
Phantom Warrior said:
Scale on toy soldiers is different from scale on AFVs. We have accurate measurements of AFVs and using them can accurately determine the scale of a model of that AFV. Not so with toy soldiers. It's because bigger scale AFVs are proportionately larger in every measure than a smaller scale AFV. If the larger model is 20% longer than the smaller model, then so is the width and height 20% longer. That's not true for people.

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I printed out this photo and took some measurements. The big person is 36% taller; his arms are 34% longer. His legs are 55% longer. But his chest is only 20% wider and his face only 18% wider. A 60mm figure is 11% taller than the same figure done in 54mm and so are all the other dimensions including chest width and head size. Peoples body measurements between tall and short people don't vary by the same proportion, but they do vary by the same proportion in figures.

That's why in the photo, even with such a big difference in size, both people look like 1:1 scale. While a 1:35 scale figure looks like a different scale than a 1:28 scale figure and not just a smaller person.

Terry
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I get the impression that people regular get mixed up with the difference between scale and proportion. One quick example is to put a smaller head on to a figure. He will now look like a taller figure in a smaller scale.

Martin
 
Martin Tabony said:
I get the impression that people regular get mixed up with the difference between scale and proportion. One quick example is to put a smaller head on to a figure. He will now look like a taller figure in a smaller scale.

Martin
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That's part of it. The way I would describe it is if you have a figure in 1:32 scale but increase each body part by 10%, you would end up with a figure of approx. 1:28 scale. They would not look compatible. If you wanted a bigger figure in the same 1:32 scale, you would need to increase the height by say 10%, but the arms by more than 10%, the legs by much more than 10%, the chest by less than 10% etc. Then you would have a bigger figure in the same 1:32 scale and they would look OK together. There are anatomical tables that spell out the ratios and ranges of human body parts.

Terry
 
Reminds me of the scene in Lord of the Rings, "Will I describe it for you, or would you like me to find a box"!:)

Martin
 
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