Self casting of Plumes for K&C Russian Guards (1 Viewer)

Capitolron said:
Jeff

All my statements were my opinion only - not to be confused with any type of inside knowledge of decisions made by K&C.

I do know - from my own experience and reports from other dealers - that several of the Napoleonic figures with plumes (and bayonets) have been damaged due to shipping - even with the great packaging they come in. Also, I have had problems with a few axe wielding Crusader Figures.

I am sure there is a good reason for the decision.

Ron
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Ron,

I know they are your opinions only.....as I said I agree with most of them. It is a shame about the broken plumes, of all the figures that I have purchased I have (touch wood - head!) never had a broken or damaged figure to date.

I'm sure there is a good reason for the lack of plumes.

Jeff
 
Oberstoskar, They are your figures! Go fot it! If you think that your figures should look a certain way then "Make it so!" I have no problems repainting K&C when the mood suits me. After all they were mine once I paid for them. Did it to the Alamo figures when I ran out of interesting Nappys to buy.:p
 
I think this historical accuracy issue has simply degenerated into an us vs them mentality. That is the only way to explain repeatedly defending the production of inaccruate vehicles and sets. The notion that inaccurate vehicles or sets "look good" or "sell well" presents a false argument for collectors. No one buys them because they are inaccurate. A lot of collectors, however, do not buy them for that reason. How many more Heydrich sets would have sold if KC had got anything right about it or done something like the ME163 instead of the RJ? Would they look less cool if they depicted real vehicles? Defending KC in these instances is actually doing harm and not helping them or collectors.
 
still trying to justify if i should get the new russians and i am too lazy to do my own research...


What are the differences between the Russian regular line infantry and the coming soon K&C russians guards? (I know at least they are in common without the plumes)
 
Combat said:
I think this historical accuracy issue has simply degenerated into an us vs them mentality. That is the only way to explain repeatedly defending the production of inaccruate vehicles and sets. The notion that inaccurate vehicles or sets "look good" or "sell well" presents a false argument for collectors. No one buys them because they are inaccurate. A lot of collectors, however, do not buy them for that reason. How many more Heydrich sets would have sold if KC had got anything right about it or done something like the ME163 instead of the RJ? Would they look less cool if they depicted real vehicles? Defending KC in these instances is actually doing harm and not helping them or collectors.
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Wow, I missed some fun here :D This thread certainly gives a good insight into our hobby and the different players involved.

I was talking to a cross section of people over the weekend and received more confirmation that todays collectors are more knowledgeable than collectors say twenty years ago.

These days anyone can get onto the internet and find out what is correct or not. Surely it's not nitpicking to expect manufacturers to do the same.

I don't collect Napoleonic stuff, but have found most that do are rather fussy about the uniforms. If not for the strict K & C policies I suspect dealers would have the "Heydrich" and "Hitlers Last Fighter" sets on the discount table by now. Yet if they were accurate I would have been amongst the first in line to get them :(
 
These figures do look nice. But I am now collecting Napoleonics from glossy manufacturers ( with plumes ). Protecting a plume should be no harder than protecting a bayonet: I have received K&C's figures very carefully packaged and with special protection for bayonets.
 
Making plumes are perhaps the easiest of all accouterments. Simply take a pin or wire, put some auto body filer on it, then shape the filler wwith a pin or knive when almost hard. Spray with auto prime, paint desired color (acrylics or enamel), coat with either matte or gloss finish, and superglue in place in predrilled hole.

But why all the fuss? I'm sure that in the Napoleonic era . . . as is the case today . . . uniform details changed almost daily depending on weather, mission, and availability. Each commander had considerable leeway in dictating uniform details and many variations were likely. Were plumes detachable then as in Imperial German and British Victorian times? If so, then plumes (and other accouterments) may be worn for parade formations but not for field exercises.

However, you're CO of your toy soldier detachment and you can dress them as you darn well please. (Reminds me of the rapid changes in uniforms within a day in OCS depending upon the dictates of the CPO>)

Al
 
....and then there's some of us who collect Toy Soldiers for the fun of it and enjoy the hobby. :)
 
Well - I guess I lack the "Passion" to always "Critically Comment" on every little thing. :)
 
For the life of me, I don't know why the two groups can't co exist -- live and let live -- without each group having to criticize the other. If one group of collectors doesn't mind a historical mistake, so be it. And if another group wants it to be historically correct, so be it as well. When will enough be enough? Never, I assume.
 
For some reason as I read these posts, edit these posts, delete posts and contemplate doing something else other than being a moderator, this video of Nixon came to mind.
 
The fun part for me in collecting toy soldiers is being able to find the little details in them. Everytime I look at a toy soldier I may notice some 'new details' that I have not seen before.

Maybe that's just because I am not rich enough to buy a lot of toy soldiers and I only have a few. So I tend to treasure the few that I have a lot (not like some member who would stick their toy soldiers' bayonets into strawberries!) And I tend to be very selective in choosing the figure that I want.

Living in Hong Kong, I have the previlige to walk into the K&C shop, spend over an hour in there, selecting the figures with the best (and almost flawless) paint job before I pick them. I enjoy the proccess, but I know the 'helpful' salesladies are not so happy when they see me in there.

I know some members don't want to pay attention to details in these toy soldiers, be it historical or artistic details. And some members may have overlooked the small details because they didn't wear their presbyopic spectacles!
 
jazzeum said:
For the life of me, I don't know why the two groups can't co exist -- live and let live -- without each group having to criticize the other. If one group of collectors doesn't mind a historical mistake, so be it. And if another group wants it to be historically correct, so be it as well. When will enough be enough? Never, I assume.
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Brad,
I Think we need a 3 strike rule, you get edited or deleted 3 times from a thread, your not allowed to comment anymore on that thread, you're obviously unable to maintain proper forum decorum or a suspension should be enforced. It's not fair to put this on you, these guys know the rules.
Ray:cool::cool::cool:
 
Capitolron said:
Well - I guess I lack the "Passion" to always "Critically Comment" on every little thing. :)
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Hi Ron, perhaps you are one to see your glass as half full, whereas I see mine as being half empty, and perhaps a little chipped :D

We need optimists to start something, and critics to improve it, that's the way things are.
 
jazzeum said:
For some reason as I read these posts, edit these posts, delete posts and contemplate doing something else other than being a moderator, this video of Nixon came to mind.
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As Brad grows exasperated his thoughts turn to the carpet bombing approach. Maybe you should change the Avatar to a B-52. Remember whatever people said at the time it did bring the North Vietnamese to the negotiating table.:D
Regards
Damian
 
Guys it might be time to turn of the computer and have a beer or 3 ,
this is only a hobby after all is said and done.
cheers Rob
 
Ok Plan B , I,ll have a vino or 3 :eek:
As they say, alcohol the solution and cause of all lifes problems
 
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