A Need for Improvement (1 Viewer)

How perfect do you want these things to be? I mean they're supposed to be toy soldiers. Is there a perfect line of toy soldiers? I doubt it. How realistic can you get? Each brand has it's own quirks and charms. I mean I have some old Britains with really bad paint jobs, but I love them.
 
Ladies/Gents

Firstly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the forum should support this, otherwise it gets boring and repetitive.

What, OzDigger says about the faces I in part agree. Some of the sets recently have been slightly humdrum. The AK29 Rommel was particularly disappointing ( the vehicle was cracking though) although I bought the set to complete my AK diorama. The recent Britains ACW and WWI faces I believe (my opinion) are far superior and I am looking forward to the next batch, especially the WWII figures.

The vehicles are always top notch and I prefer the way they are made with polystone to any of their competitors - even the tracks and wheels which save me weathering them.

By the way OzDigger I heard that the Australians have given up playing cricket against us Poms as they now realise that they won't win the ashes back in the autumn, and are now going to play an in-house Tiddlywinks championship instead.

Only kidding.

Andy
 
Shannon Reuss said:
Okay Oz, now tell us what you LIKE about King & Country figures and vehicles:) .

I've never actually seen a King and Country figure with a face color that would match a plum as Dragoon has, so I guess I have to be thankful for that :)

What I like. I like that they do subjects that others steer away from such as the LAH range, and I like that Andy C. cares enough about his products and company that he reads the crap that we type here most days.

The main thing I like is that the majority of the pieces are accurate and well finished but sometimes the products tend towards the artistic rather than actual copies of a person or vehicle. I appreciate the beauty of the artistic side but the sometimes lack of accuracy annoys me at times. On the frequent occasions that they get that artistic flair and accuracy 'just right' the piece is hard to fault, even for a fussy, discerning, know it all, like me :D

Anyway, I have to go outside for a while and I may be sometime, see you guys later.
 
King & Country remains in my opinion far superior to what ever is currently

in second place.

Njja
 
:( Hello guys! Just Received the NEW AK Sets; and the ONLY Improvement I think , should be in the Figure's; is the Body Statue, Comparing with EAO3'S and EAO4'S? The NEW Sculpturing , in some of the Sets Like (AK28) seems to be getting SMALLER in Size? I was a Disapointed about the size of the British COMMANDO'S Sets also; they're Smaller?
 
Hi guys - been a bit busy, came and read this thread with some disbelief :confused: - I think some sets e.g. ww2 royal marines are unbelievably good - if people find something to criticise I say well done Andy for raising the bar:)

If in doubt look at the earlier peices. Also see the pics in the gallery at more than life size.

Andy, still not quite there yet.....:eek:
 
Pierre said:
What I really don't understand is why some people are collecting K&C if they are not satisfied with their products.

How many other companies are making toy soldiers or military figures? How are their vehicules? How are the faces of their figures? Do they also have horses with camel's heads?

I'm sorry but when I do not like something, I don't buy it.

Also, some of you seems to forget that we are talking about miniatures. How are you looking at a Gaugin or a Monet? Art is art, not reality.

Pierre.

Gaugin and Monet, surely you jest. I much prefer Meissonier, Detaille and of course for those perfect flesh tones, Bouguereau.;)
 
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Dragoon said:
Gaugin and Monet, surely you jest. I much prefer Meissonier, Detaille and of course for those perfect flesh tones, Bouguereau.;)

When I wrote Gaugin and Monet, it was not to jest (I had to look in a french-english dictionnary for that word). My comment was not in relation with the flesh tone of those artists as I will never impress anybody with my knowledge of art paint which is non-existent. In fact, it's that I find that the making of military figures is an art, and it was in that perspective that I refer to Gaugin and Monet. Believe me, I was not, in any way jesting at you.:)

Pierre.
 
Maybe Andy should do a grand masters series: Velazquez, Goya and the Spanish masters would get my vote for first choice.
 
jazzeum said:
Maybe Andy should do a grand masters series: Velazquez, Goya and the Spanish masters would get my vote for first choice.
i like Giotto and Leonardo sets is beutiful painted at my opinion

viva l' Italia
 
CannonFodder1971 said:
King & Country figures represent the perfect proportions of da Vinci's Vitruvian Man:http://www.davincilife.com/vitruvianman.html Some other manufacturers still look like Salvador Dali's work: javascript:popImage('../images/works/1954_04.jpg','Rhinocerotic Disintegration of Illissus, 1954')

While I agree with CannonFodder about the comparison of others to Dali, I will continue the feud began in the 1500's; I think that Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni's "David" is the real example of a typical K&C figure. http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~rbloem/david.html

Michael:D
 
I have to disagree with you Michael. Michelangelo's David is at repose, K&C figures in action poses are more akin to Bernini's David.
 
Louis Badolato said:
I have to disagree with you Michael. Michelangelo's David is at repose, K&C figures in action poses are more akin to Bernini's David.

I had forgotten about Bernini's Goliath slayer. It is a beautiful work of art and is among the greatest pieces of art ever done by a human hand. I would like to think that each David, the King and the Slayer are representations of equal value. I have seen each and if I were to choose the best, I could not. I am not of sufficient worth to be able to make such a choice.

I think that the following quote best expresses my thoughts, it is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Bernini)
"The twisted torso, furrowed forehead, and granite grimace of Bernini's "David" is symptomatic of the baroque's interest in dynamic movement and emotion over High Renaissance stasis and classic severity. Below him are armour and a disguised harp. Bernini's David appears to be the eldest of all the Italian sculptures mentioned above. Michelangelo expresses David's heroic nature; Bernini captures the heroic moment. In political terms, it can be said Michelangelo's David epitomizes a Florentine republic that would not allow defeat; Bernini's David is a Counter-Reformation Rome anxious for a fight. Or could it be the young ambitious Bernini aiming his projectile at the hagiographic Michelangelo oeuvre?"

If you have ever read Joseph Campbell, our age seems to lack the Heros of the past ages, perhaps that is what we look for as collectors - Heros to help us to understand our reason for existance and to give us the courage to face the adversities of everyday life. Everyday life can be as challenging as anything the fabled heros had to face. Perhaps the vision of both Davids gives me the assuance that others too see value in the human existance and that there is value to our lives.

Deep uh. Michael

Michael
 
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king and country toy soldier ,quality museum figures, made in italy by the artists of all century:) ;)
 
I think you all have forgotten that fabulous artist who brought us "Dogs Playing Poker"
Ray
 
Ray,

You are a man after my own heart! "Dogs Playing Poker" is a true masterpiece! :)

Warm regards,

Pat
 
nmrocks said:
I think you all have forgotten that fabulous artist who brought us "Dogs Playing Poker" Ray

To really appreciate this wonderful work of art, one MUST see it in the original velvet with gold baroque frame.

I have the version with the beagle dealing in my family room, we have a miniature beagle named "Billie" who is a match for the fellow in the painting. We also have one with dogs playing pool.

Michael
 
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If you'll allow me to digress a moment from the artistic merits of "Dogs Playing Poker" to Bernini, if you think his David is great, you should see his "Rape of Persephone". It shows the god of the underworld carrying off Persephone, and so captures living human flesh in marble that you can actually see the imprints of his fingers in the flesh of her thighs. If you get the chance to visit the Borghese Galleries in Rome, you can see both of these statues. They are truly among the greatest sculptures ever.
 
Michael,

You are truly a blessed man to have two such wonderful works of art hanging in your home! Others should be so lucky! :)

Smiles and Warm regards,

Pat
 

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