Agincourt range! (1 Viewer)

[johnnybach]

Nicely displayed and researched , Only negative would be you need more figures :wink2: it looks like a fight after school with only one spectator .. just kiddin .. regards Gebhard

You must have gone to a tough school - they're using axes!!! jb

 

[Andanna]

On the other hand, JB, Gebhard learned everything about chivalry.

I have been admiring your thread "Fancy a Knight out in Agincourt?" and under your influence had always assumed that I would collect classic knights in gloss rather than matt. But I had a tough time identifying a glossy range of readily available knights that I really liked - deprived of your breathtaking ability to paint my own. I cannot imagine you painted that heraldry! I had considered the older Britains - and have not yet totally rejected that idea - but for now am happy with the matt range from FL.

This is the first photo where I just have to assume it is historically inaccurate. I have confirmed that the three knights depicted were at Agincourt that day, a very high probability that they were fighting in the same vicinity of the battlefield with Edward commanding the right flank of the English army.

But I struggle with the vegetation as the battle was end of October, not a very "green" season. Photos and (more or less) contemporaneous paintings do show green, though. The hey is definitely my invention.

Agincourt supposedly in October:

In short, this is not Agincourt, but a skirmish earlier in the invasion of France which started in August of 1415. And therefore, I take the liberty of deviating from the classic Agincourt picture of hundreds of knights in close combat, but rather show them in their "ideal" environment of individual hand-to-hand combat. Was there also combat in Agincourt as depicted in the photo - on an individual bases? I would think so, even if that was probably not typical for that battle.

A more realistic depiction of the battle:

Thank you all for your words of encouragement.

 

[johnnybach]

On the other hand, JB, Gebhard learned everything about chivalry.

I have been admiring your thread "Fancy a Knight out in Agincourt?" and under your influence had always assumed that I would collect classic knights in gloss rather than matt. But I had a tough time identifying a glossy range of readily available knights that I really liked - deprived of your breathtaking ability to paint my own. I cannot imagine you painted that heraldry! I had considered the older Britains - and have not yet totally rejected that idea - but for now am happy with the matt range from FL.

This is the first photo where I just have to assume it is historically inaccurate. I have confirmed that the three knights depicted were at Agincourt that day, a very high probability that they were fighting in the same vicinity of the battlefield with Edward commanding the right flank of the English army.

But I struggle with the vegetation as the battle was end of October, not a very "green" season. Photos and (more or less) contemporaneous paintings do show green, though. The hey is definitely my invention.

Agincourt supposedly in October:

In short, this is not Agincourt, but a skirmish earlier in the invasion of France which started in August of 1415. And therefore, I take the liberty of deviating from the classic Agincourt picture of hundreds of knights in close combat, but rather show them in their "ideal" environment of individual hand-to-hand combat. Was there also combat in Agincourt as depicted in the photo - on an individual bases? I would think so, even if that was probably not typical for that battle.

A more realistic depiction of the battle:

Thank you all for your words of encouragement.

You're very welcome - glad you like my Glosssy knights too. Here's a quick concise overview - for those who would like one:

http://www.britishbattles.com/100-years-war/agincourt.htm

I also recommend Bernard Cornwell's marvelous read in "Azincourt" - as a very enjoyable read.

I think you and I are on the same wavelength - just getting to how we collect our TS in different ways. Collecting Britains glossies isn't easy - but boy! - those Selwyn Smith sculpts are still amazingly good.

Cheers chum - jb

 

[bricoleur]

Dear treefroggers;

I recently started with this range.
I love them all







Enjoy!:salute::
Bricoleur

 

[Andanna]

Very nice collection. It appears you are making good use of your set-up.

 

[VIRIATO]

Looks like one ot the top 4 or 5 FL ranges (the others IMO: Naps, ACW, WWII and Samurai).

Paulo

 

[HistoryfortheAges]

On the other hand, JB, Gebhard learned everything about chivalry.

I have been admiring your thread "Fancy a Knight out in Agincourt?" and under your influence had always assumed that I would collect classic knights in gloss rather than matt. But I had a tough time identifying a glossy range of readily available knights that I really liked - deprived of your breathtaking ability to paint my own. I cannot imagine you painted that heraldry! I had considered the older Britains - and have not yet totally rejected that idea - but for now am happy with the matt range from FL.

Thank you all for your words of encouragement.

Another option for glossy knights is Tradition. I believe they still produce some knights of Agincourt as well and they are nicely done in glossy!

 

[johnnybach]

Another option for glossy knights is Tradition. I believe they still produce some knights of Agincourt as well and they are nicely done in glossy!

Yes they do - Tradition will still sell you either Glossies - or, for even less, the same figures as unpainted kits for you to build and paint for yourself ( or get someone to do it for you). That's even better fun - as you can swap parts and convert to other Knights as well.

And if you go down THAT road - there are quite a few other TS companies out there who will sell you castings of Knights as well.

P.S. Just had a thought - I think that FL do at least SOME of their range as unpainted castings. If you would like them to sell you unpainted ones - why not ask them??? If there is enough demand - they might consider doing it for their superb Agincourt range??? jb

 

[HistoryfortheAges]

Yes they do - Tradition will still sell you either Glossies - or, for even less, the same figures as unpainted kits for you to build and paint for yourself ( or get someone to do it for you). That's even better fun - as you can swap parts and convert to other Knights as well.

And if you go down THAT road - there are quite a few other TS companies out there who will sell you castings of Knights as well.

P.S. Just had a thought - I think that FL do at least SOME of their range as unpainted castings. If you would like them to sell you unpainted ones - why not ask them??? If there is enough demand - they might consider doing it for their superb Agincourt range??? jb

I am already in deep with the FL Agincourt matte range. I only have a few more left to get from their current output. Anxiously awaiting what's next...!!! I am pretty much down to this range as what remains in my outstanding collecting. Medieval knights were always something lacking in my collection. I jumped on the bandwagon as soon as this range was announced and wasn't disappointed whatsoever! Bravo First Legion!

Definitely, for someone with the talent to paint their own figures, I think all manufacturers should offer that option. A hobby should be what you want it to be!

:salute::

 

[Andanna]

I was following JB's advice and purchased "Agincourt" for easy reading. Looking at the cover of my version, something was off. The knight riding in the background was taken from the movie "Kingdom of Heaven". :wink2:

That movie is set in the 12th century, Agincourt (novel and battle) in the 15th century. Do people really assume there was no development in armor in close to 300 years? I am insulted.

 

[johnnybach]

I was following JB's advice and purchased "Agincourt" for easy reading. Looking at the cover of my version, something was off. The knight riding in the background was taken from the movie "Kingdom of Heaven". :wink2:

That movie is set in the 12th century, Agincourt (novel and battle) in the 15th century. Do people really assume there was no development in armor in close to 300 years? I am insulted.

"You can't always judge a book - by looking at the cover" - applies here chum. The story inside is well worth a "howler" like that on the cover - doubtless made by a lazy graphic designer - who just pulled a pic off some web-site. Just be thankful there are no vapour trails in the sky behind him!!

Here's another good read - which might be right up your street - as it covers the development of Knightly armour and weapons between 1200 through to 1600.




I think the cover gives enough details for you to find it - and I really do recommend you to find a copy if you can. It's really a series of Osprey publications , pulled together in one volume (by the same author). I found mine as a previously owned copy on Amazon - for about a fifth of the "New" price - and I think it's going to be invaluable for me. Highly recommended. jb

 

[johnnybach]

"You can't always judge a book - by looking at the cover" - applies here chum. The story inside is well worth a "howler" like that on the cover - doubtless made by a lazy graphic designer - who just pulled a pic off some web-site. Just be thankful there are no vapour trails in the sky behind him!!

Here's another good read - which might be right up your street - as it covers the development of Knightly armour and weapons between 1200 through to 1600.




I think the cover gives enough details for you to find it - and I really do recommend you to find a copy if you can. It's really a series of Osprey publications , pulled together in one volume (by the same author). I found mine as a previously owned copy on Amazon - for about a fifth of the "New" price - and I think it's going to be invaluable for me. Highly recommended. jb

By the way - my own version of the book by Bernard Cornwell - looks like this - with the correct spelling for the French town as it was then - and now. Azincourt. jb

 

[bricoleur]

new snapshots







Ready for a french duel:salute::

 

[HistoryfortheAges]

So maybe Matt can enlighten us Agincourt collectors on when we might see a new installment of figures for this range? How about a hint or two or three? {sm4}

 

[HistoryfortheAges]

So, no more news on this wonderful range???

 

[Andanna]

Le resilent Anglais, 1415

P.S.: Do I see a smirk there?

 

[BHogan]

Nice vignette! The Hundred Years' War has always fascinated me, particularly how the French managed to win the war despite losing so badly to the English at victories at Crécy, Poitiers, and Agincourt. The First Legion Agincourt series is top-notch. Just out of curiosity, are the figures in the background other toy soldiers or a backdrop?
Cheers,
Brendan

 

[Mike97]

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This is an awesome looking line-great pics.

 

[6th Wisconsin]

I dabble in that range, having 5 pieces. Your photos make me want more. Well done!

 

[Andanna]

Nice vignette! The Hundred Years' War has always fascinated me, particularly how the French managed to win the war despite losing so badly to the English at victories at Crécy, Poitiers, and Agincourt. The First Legion Agincourt series is top-notch. Just out of curiosity, are the figures in the background other toy soldiers or a backdrop?
Cheers,
Brendan

Brendan, the figures stand three deep in from to a print out of an image of fighting knights.

And thank you all for your kind comments.