Airborne Only (1 Viewer)

[Firebat]

Gentlemen

There have been many excellent suggestion, but I want to limit this thread to US Airborne, I am in touch with Tom, so you will not be waisting your time.

Remember there are always two versions, so try to address that also. The versions can have slight changes.

I have a question.....Does anyone think there is merit to having a "Brighter Version" to match K&C and a "Weathered Version" to match Figarti and TCS. Obviously that has never been done before. I have 3 super cool suggestions approved already.

Men this is it, right here right now, a viable direct pipeline I guarantee it. What could be better. If you gave a suggestion else ware please repeat it here. So jump in. Alex

 

[wayne556517]

Do them the way TGM has been doing all his figures IMO they look awesome,and don't you think the only problem doing paratroopers is there is limited ideas/poses to do.....{sm5}



(1 of these would be nice)


Or a captured TIGER in Tunisia.....................^&grin

 

[Mitch]

I would have to say I would be happy with the set releases that TG make. I would think there would be a blurring between manufacturers should they try to emulate others. For me, TG figures are better by far than Figarti figures so, why try to emulate them?? The figures in general are either poorly painted or, have anotomical difficulties in terms of size of arms thickness of again, arms and legs etc.

I think, TG works very well with K&C as it stands. Again this is TG so, why try to make them all the same?? As a painter if I want to change things OI would but, I am satisfied with what TG is doing in terms of releases and, the way they paint and research,

There have been very few issues with TG and, IMO the manner in which they have painted the uniforms is very good from my limited knowledge of US uniforms.
Mitch

 

[Guy]

TG figures are good as they are . They have very original poses and can fit in a lot of scenes and fit perfectly with the K&C TS range .However, being a meticulous painter and asking always the best of myself, I am never satisfied with the painting results of TSs. Not only from the TG range, but from every manufacturer. Historical accuracy, for me, also plays an important role, so uniforms, uniform colours and camouflage patterns should be historically correct.So that is why I almost always end up repainting my toy soldiers when I put them into a dio. Let me show you how an US airborne trooper looks like when he passed through my hands.I know one can not expect the same result from a commercial toy soldier of which several hundreds of copies are produced.
guy

 

[Firebat]

1-How about pose Ideas, limit your suggestions to Normandy for now.

2-I meant a more more weathered paint version to match with Figarti vehicles, not necessarily Figarti figures. Remember there would also be a normal version.

3-I have a plan for the C-47

Wayne ....................... Limited !!!!!!.....................Tom an I couldn't stop thinking of new ideas in our conversation..... He agreed to 3 never done before killer poses in our first conversation.

VERY NICE FIGURE ABOVE GUY !

Personally I like TGM stuff as is also.....but some real beat up guys would be cool with the Figarti Vehicles etc. Think about it.

 

[Guy]

Weathered is always nice and much more realistic. I hate figures painted as if they come straight from the dry cleaners. So I am all for the weathered version.Condition however is that you do not over do the weathered effect. As far as the poses are concerned: I sent to TG a few months ago several pics of possible poses. But I will look them up again and post you a few ideas tomorrow .( Do you know the painting by Joel ISKOWITZ about the filthy thirteen. - a bunch of paras (101) gathered in front of the door of a C47 preparing to board the plane )
guy

 

[Guy]

All manufacturers of TSs almost always produce soldiers in battle dress and in a fighting pose. Would it not be nice to think a little bit out of the box and do something different . I am joining a drawing of some US paras behind the front and they would go nicely with TG's naughty forties.I also add a few pics from the "Band of Brothers" series and some more drawings of paras preparing for the jump and paras landed but not fighting
guy

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[Guy]

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[braddinpa]

The After the Battle Two Volume set on Market Garden has some excellent poses. Both British and American. I still have my fingers crossed for Hackett, Frost and Horrocks.

 

[Firebat]

Good stuff keep it coming !

 

[The Military Workshop]

Alex,
If you Google Thomas Gunn Miniatures you get "Thomas Gunn Miniatures - King and Country compatable toy soldiers" and that is the official TG web site.

Under the thread Marriage between TG and K&C by Guy you wrote
"This is a well done scene.....But in a way I wish the TGM didn't blend with the K&C, because it forces me to weather both my K&C and TGM......No big deal. ......
I had proposed on the Airborne Only thread that TGM would be the first manufacturer to do both a "Bright" and "Weathered" version of his figures. So us Figarti
and TCS fans could blend with the excellent TGM products....".

So I guess we can safely assume you are not a K&C fan.

I have never seen a Figarti figure but they are not known for their figure quality. TG figures fit in extremely well with K&C figures and both are different to CS figures (I am a CS dealer).

Since you now appear to be some sort of consultant to TG my suggestion is to not mess with an already sucessful formula in terms of their style. As a dealer in TG and K&C it is apparent that both work very well together. As regards "Bright" and "Weathered" versions I think that idea is not workable. Just because you do not like K&C is hardly a reason a brand should produce two styles of paint (as opposed to Winter and Spring).

I do note that you have had some sort of relationship/sponsorship with Figarti, FL, Frontline (ie making dios for them) and Conte and have just discussed a "project" with Jenkins. You have not had any relationship with K&C which may explain why you would prefer that TG fit in with other brands.
Regards
Brett

 

[Mitch]

Guys....

This is a TG thread before we bring up the usual K&C stuff into every thread. I think its fair to say as the ATW has just started that we may have a few more non winter troops before we get them. Additional sets to add fire support and such like will I am sure be most welcome by most collectors
Mitch

 

[Currahee Chris]

I'd prefer modern US airborne but I'm sure that's just me..............:rolleyes2:

FWIW- More Currahee's were awarded the CMoH during Viet Nam than WW2- that particular regiment has quite a storied history, I think they did something in some recent desert campaigns as well. :rolleyes2::rolleyes2:

Yeah, I know WW2 sells, Modern doesn't but TGM did put it out that it is under consideration. I'd buy Modern Airborne (or non jump )units. I'd have to cherry pick WW2.

 

[Firebat]

Alex,
If you Google Thomas Gunn Miniatures you get "Thomas Gunn Miniatures - King and Country compatable toy soldiers" and that is the official TG web site.

Under the thread Marriage between TG and K&C by Guy you wrote
"This is a well done scene.....But in a way I wish the TGM didn't blend with the K&C, because it forces me to weather both my K&C and TGM......No big deal. ......
I had proposed on the Airborne Only thread that TGM would be the first manufacturer to do both a "Bright" and "Weathered" version of his figures. So us Figarti
and TCS fans could blend with the excellent TGM products....".

So I guess we can safely assume you are not a K&C fan.

I have never seen a Figarti figure but they are not known for their figure quality. TG figures fit in extremely well with K&C figures and both are different to CS figures (I am a CS dealer).

Since you now appear to be some sort of consultant to TG my suggestion is to not mess with an already sucessful formula in terms of their style. As a dealer in TG and K&C it is apparent that both work very well together. As regards "Bright" and "Weathered" versions I think that idea is not workable. Just because you do not like K&C is hardly a reason a brand should produce two styles of paint (as opposed to Winter and Spring).

I do note that you have had some sort of relationship/sponsorship with Figarti, FL, Frontline (ie making dios for them) and Conte and have just discussed a "project" with Jenkins. You have not had any relationship with K&C which may explain why you would prefer that TG fit in with other brands.
Regards
Brett

I have no problem with K&C. I have a very large K&C collection......But they are not God..... TGM, TCS and FL have strong products out there. Figarti's vehicles are superb, if in fact their figures leave a little to be desired, but Figarti has had their moments with figures also.

A Manufacturer as good as TGM does not need to emulate anyone. Even if K&C Compatibility is a good formula for them. Those of us who like a more muted realism want to use TGM figures with the more muted Figarti vehicles, especially since Figarti's figures leave a bit to be desired at times.

I am not afraid to think outside the box, and I never leave well enough alone. I would be prepared to offer TGM the financing to have my own line of muted figures done, if that were possible. I am that sure they would be successful...K&C is not God.

In the end all, if this never happens, and it will probably not, Nick and I will just weather the K&C and TGM figures as we have done already.

Actually we did do a project for K&C a few years back. Alex

 

[Firebat]

There is some valuable Airborne info posted elsware in the TGM section please try to keep it here so Tom can review it in one place. Some one mentioned something about these are only Toy Soldiers and we can let certain thing go. I don't agree, these have become Military Replicas and the more accurate the better.

 

[Guy]

There is some valuable Airborne info posted elsware in the TGM section please try to keep it here so Tom can review it in one place. Some one mentioned something about these are only Toy Soldiers and we can let certain thing go. I don't agree, these have become Military Replicas and the more accurate the better.

I know a lot about US airborne troops in WWII - European theatre- and I have a great deal of doc. about them . If Tom wants to know something, he just has to ask.
guy:smile2:

 

[Firebat]

I know a lot about US airborne troops in WWII - European theatre- and I have a great deal of doc. about them . If Tom wants to know something, he just has to ask.
guy:smile2:

Also post some of your favorite pics for pose ideas...Or describe them

 

[Guy]

here you have a few pictures of interesting poses.
- a stick of paras preparing to board a Dakota ( would make a lovely dio)
- a bunch of paras having a ride in and on a captured kubel
- a para holding a German soldier prisoner
- a para giving some water to a wounded German
- and a picture based on one of the above out of my collection of handpainted 1/35 metal soldiers with a Cushman motorbike
guy

 

[wayne556517]

Ones been done before.

 

[Firebat]

Gentlemen


I don't want to sound like some in guy in this business, believe me, BSP is as far as in as you can get from being in. But We have forged a good relationship with TGM, and I can tell you that this thread is paying off. I know a few poses that are being considered and you will be very happy. " Keep em coming " Alex