All four new Germans now visible on TSSD website (2 Viewers)

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Under "Coming Attractions" I noticed that all four TSSD German add-ons are no viewable. A couple are rather familiar to me :)
 
Oh yes, they will be good to have. I had done some conversions for Nick when he was looking into short runs of resin figures and the two kneeling poses appear much like the ones I sent him. If that is correct, then I am honored.

Gary B.
 
Hmmm. Got a birthday coming up, and I always need Germans.............

You, I'll be getting a couple sets of these...........
 
GERMAN WINTER SET

Fig#1 GREATCOAT RUNNING with MP-40 = Good and useful running figure well sculpted.

Fig#2 GREATCOAT RUNNING with RIFLE = Kind of redundant, could have chosen something just a little more needed but well sculpted.
A PRONE figure would have been a more thoughtful choice perhaps?

Fig#3 WAFF SS KNEELING with BINOCULARS & STG-44 = Cool looking figure, useful, helps round off the SS set. Well sculpted.
Some camo smocks would be proof that they are SS.

Fig#4 WAFF SS KNEELING with GRENADE & RIFLE = Kneeling doing????????? Is that a plug arm? Can I pose him to THROW the grenade?!
UNINSPIRED pose, the weakest if the batch but well sculpted.
 
Plastic General said:
GERMAN WINTER SET

Fig#1 GREATCOAT RUNNING with MP-40 = Good and useful running figure well sculpted.

Fig#2 GREATCOAT RUNNING with RIFLE = Kind of redundant, could have chosen something just a little more needed but well sculpted.
A PRONE figure would have been a more thoughtful choice perhaps?

Fig#3 WAFF SS KNEELING with BINOCULARS & STG-44 = Cool looking figure, useful, helps round off the SS set. Well sculpted.
Some camo smocks would be proof that they are SS.

Fig#4 WAFF SS KNEELING with GRENADE & RIFLE = Kneeling doing????????? Is that a plug arm? Can I pose him to THROW the grenade?!
UNINSPIRED pose, the weakest if the batch but well sculpted.
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Nothing Denotes the two figures you mentioned as being Waffen SS as Waffen SS. They have no defined collar markings/emblems for this nor do they have any kit specifically issued to the Waffen SS so they are equally suited as Wehrmacht. On a side note they do however have winter gear on (their pants).
 
Well, the 4 new winter Germans are an "Add-On" set.
Two for the Long coat Germans & two for the Elite SS set.
So YES, they were meant to be, SS.

Plastic General
 
Plastic General said:
Well, the 4 new winter Germans are an "Add-On" set.
Two for the Long coat Germans & two for the Elite SS set.
So YES, they were meant to be, SS.

Plastic General
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If they are Germans, fine. If they are SS I won't touch them.
 
Plastic General said:
Well, the 4 new winter Germans are an "Add-On" set.
Two for the Long coat Germans & two for the Elite SS set.
So YES, they were meant to be, SS.

Plastic General
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Where is the set listed as or where has the set ever been listed as Elite SS? As far as I'm concerned I have only seen it listed as "German elite troops" and again look at that set they are equipped with no definitive markings to denote them as Waffen SS (spare the cavalry troops who semi have collar markings) Their uniforms are compatible for them to be used as Heer panzergrenadiers/grenadiers or Waffen SS more likely heer. Their equipment again if you look at the figures is winter oriented as well look at the pants on the prone mg team in particular. The uniforms work for Heer especially winter 1943-1944 onwards. I hope this explanation clears this up for you.
 
The last German set released by TSSD was an Elite German (Waffen SS) set, including SS Calvary? No?
Have they changed the name of the set? I was under the impression that two of the non long coat figures were an add-on to that set?
If you hate the SS, now would be your chance to kill them in the form of plastic.
 
The elite German set is called just that the Elite German set (never in its title is Waffen SS mentioned). Heer panzer grenadiers were elite troops (Panzer lehr, Grossdeutchland , Feldernhalle etc were all considered especially elite) please refer to my previous post explaining why the only two figures ( the mounted ones) can truly be considered Waffen SS from this set. The rest are Heer. The add on set has two figured that are supposed to add to this set but they too look to be wearing Heer winter uniforms (look at the pants I say!!!!!). Camo smocks, helmet covers, and zeltbahns were all heavily utilized by heer truppen. So again not Waffen SS figures.
 
If you are still confused on anything i mentioned pm me and i can explain whatever is unclear. I fancy myself to be somewhat knowledgeable of German infantry uniforms equipment etc from WW2.
 
Ha Ha, I am also knowledgeable about uniforms, I own those German winter pants and I understand everything that you are saying.
When TSSD first released that set 7 years ago?
Elite SS is how they were marketed, who knows, perhaps they have changed the title of the set to just ELITE GERMAN INFANTRY?
I remember expecting SS and was disappointed because only three figures were wearing smocks and only a few others had helmet covers.
The SS also wore Panzer Jackets and winter pants.
Why split hairs?
I see this set as Waffen SS with mixed winter gear and SS camo, you see in as regular infantry?

As Barzo would say: ENJOY!

Plastic General
 
I think Nick's intent was to present some "generic" German infantry. They can be detailed or painted as Heer or SS, or even Luftwaffe. Personally I only remember this set carrying the title "Elite German" without mention of SS, but I can't claim to have seen every permutation of that set's packaging. Personally I plan to buy several sets in Chicago as I need them for more conversions and such. So many German units received mixed bags of equipment and personnel were shifted from shattered units to units being rebuilt that it's hard to say what a German "uniform" was on the front lines.

In the same light, I'll bet that some (or all) of the Austin Marines can be quickly adapted to GI's in cotton herringbone twill (HBT) uniforms. The basic web gear was the same except that the USMC used a different backpack. The Marines also used their camo helmet covers while the Army did not. The cut and pocket location on the USMC HBT utilities varied from that of the Army's fatigues, but that can usually be easily altered in this scale.
 
Gary
I look forward to seeing your converted conversions.
Mine should begin in a few weeks.
Converting the Lancers is my next project.
 
Propane & Propane acs. said:
The elite German set is called just that the Elite German set (never in its title is Waffen SS mentioned). Heer panzer grenadiers were elite troops (Panzer lehr, Grossdeutchland , Feldernhalle etc were all considered especially elite) please refer to my previous post explaining why the only two figures ( the mounted ones) can truly be considered Waffen SS from this set. The rest are Heer. The add on set has two figured that are supposed to add to this set but they too look to be wearing Heer winter uniforms (look at the pants I say!!!!!). Camo smocks, helmet covers, and zeltbahns were all heavily utilized by heer truppen. So again not Waffen SS figures.
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ABout to the say the same. Never marketed as SS. COnte however did use that term and produced 8 poses he labeled SS>
 
FINE!
From now on, ALL German figures wearing CAMOUFLAGE SMOCKS & SS pattern helmet covers, are NOT SS, they are the "HEER".

YES, the regular infantry wore SMOCKS, HELMET COVERS and WINTER PANTS, BUT SO DID the WAFFEN SS!
"ELITE GERMANS" (wearing smocks and helmet covers accompanied by two SS Calvary men) is a politically correct way, of selling winter WAFFEN SS figures!

I say, "the glass is half full"

Plastic General
 
Plastic General said:
FINE!
From now on, ALL German figures wearing CAMOUFLAGE SMOCKS & SS pattern helmet covers, are NOT SS, they are the "HEER".

YES, the regular infantry wore SMOCKS, HELMET COVERS and WINTER PANTS, BUT SO DID the WAFFEN SS!
"ELITE GERMANS" (wearing smocks and helmet covers accompanied by two SS Calvary men) is a politically correct way, of selling winter WAFFEN SS figures!

I say, "the glass is half full"

Plastic General
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I don't think that's the point anyone is trying to make. The point I was trying to make was that the set is not marketed as Waffen SS and with that being said there is no kit on them to denote them as SS as some collectors don't like to buy Waffen SS figures. I personally do buy them/convert figures to be them since I wargame in 1/32 scale but that's beside the point. The point is calling them Waffen SS when they aren't marketed as such and don't necessarily have all the kit to be called such can hurt sales of the set based on misrepresentation.
 
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