The sad thing about this whole affair is that it could have been sorted out by a few PMs. Instead supporters and non supporters of the relevant parties have escalated the entire matter. The thing that worries me most is that the moderator, Jazzeum, has been so jaundiced by this one event that he condemns the entire forum as degenerating into something nasty, and suggests closing the whole thing down for a while. Well, until this thread was opened I was unaware of the argument, it happened on a thread I don't often visit, but I can assure you, Brad, that I have not encountered any back biting, sniping, or bad mouthing elsewhere. There are some people who take things very seriously, (and why not?) and others who have a more light hearted approach, and it matters not to me, and I suspect the majority of contributers, whether they identify themselves as Joe Bloggs or The Grim Reaper as long as their contribution is worth reading. Perhaps it would be to your advantage to take a weekend off and enjoy yourself, be self indulgent and get the bad taste out of your mouth.