Are the new K&C chasseurs just del prado rehash??? (1 Viewer)

[fishead19690]

Is it just me or are the new chasseurs a cheval more del prado rehash with some head and arm changes??? The figures all look pretty munch the same, like he just repostioned the heads and changed the arms around. The price has increased also! If he,s going to start to increase the price the least he could do is put some work into the poses like have made some new action poses for the chasseurs. I wish he would have come out with some new foot figures for this line first. All these cavalry at $65 bucks a pop adds up quick. You think he could have kept the price down seeing as how he just used the del prado molds. If you look at the new del prado #119 then look at K&C na093 you can see what i mean and the others all look very close to other del prado figures also with head and arm changes. I guess the last batch of test figures of K&C/del prado limited edtion sold well for him! I think the least he could do is keep the price down if he,s going to rehash the del prado figures as K&C. The dragoons at least look great and have nice action poses, why couldn,t he have done the same with the chasseurs?

 

[bricoleur]

Is it just me or are the new chasseurs a cheval more del prado rehash with some head and arm changes??? The figures all look pretty munch the same, like he just repostioned the heads and changed the arms around. The price has increased also! If he,s going to start to increase the price the least he could do is put some work into the poses like have made some new action poses for the chasseurs. I wish he would have come out with some new foot figures for this line first. All these cavalry at $65 bucks a pop adds up quick. You think he could have kept the price down seeing as how he just used the del prado molds. If you look at the new del prado #119 then look at K&C na093 you can see what i mean and the others all look very close to other del prado figures also with head and arm changes. I guess the last batch of test figures of K&C/del prado limited edtion sold well for him! I think the least he could do is keep the price down if he,s going to rehash the del prado figures as K&C. The dragoons at least look great and have nice action poses, why couldn,t he have done the same with the chasseurs?

Hi;
I'm also a Napoleonic lover. I simply mix Del Prado and K&C. The dragoon officer from K&C could be compared with a former dragoon officer from Del Prado. So buy the Del Prado officer (1/3 of the price), repaint, if necessary, some details better on the Del Prado and save money for other authentic K&C figures. Anyway, you will never find the standard bearer and the trumpeteer in the Del Prado edition. So you have to mix to have a full set of chasseurs. Only the 'investors' have to stick with the whole set K&C but there is a difference in investing money and collecting all what you like at a reasonable price. If you 'invest' even don't think to open a box. Value is already decreasing by the tought to look at your figures!!!
Personaly I like the poses of the new figures. You can build up a unit by using the same K&C figures in formation and the Del Prado's could be positioned as a second rang. We have already colapsing horses on both sides. Another theme for a diorama is now O.K.
Eddy

 

[bricoleur]

Is it just me or are the new chasseurs a cheval more del prado rehash with some head and arm changes??? The figures all look pretty munch the same, like he just repostioned the heads and changed the arms around. The price has increased also! If he,s going to start to increase the price the least he could do is put some work into the poses like have made some new action poses for the chasseurs. I wish he would have come out with some new foot figures for this line first. All these cavalry at $65 bucks a pop adds up quick. You think he could have kept the price down seeing as how he just used the del prado molds. If you look at the new del prado #119 then look at K&C na093 you can see what i mean and the others all look very close to other del prado figures also with head and arm changes. I guess the last batch of test figures of K&C/del prado limited edtion sold well for him! I think the least he could do is keep the price down if he,s going to rehash the del prado figures as K&C. The dragoons at least look great and have nice action poses, why couldn,t he have done the same with the chasseurs?

Hi;
I'm also a Napoleonic lover. I simply mix Del Prado and K&C. The dragoon officer from K&C could be compared with a former dragoon officer from Del Prado. So buy the Del Prado officer (1/3 of the price), repaint, if necessary, some details better on the Del Prado and save money for other authentic K&C figures. Anyway, you will never find the standard bearer and the trumpeteer in the Del Prado edition. So you have to mix to have a full set of chasseurs. Only the 'investors' have to stick with the whole set K&C but there is a difference in investing money and collecting all what you like at a reasonable price. If you 'invest' even don't think to open a box. Value is already decreasing by the tought to look at your figures!!!
Personaly I like the poses of the new figures. You can build up a unit by using the same K&C figures in formation and the Del Prado's could be positioned as a second rang. We have already colapsing horses on both sides. Another theme for a diorama is now O.K.
Eddy

 

[fishead19690]

The flag bearer and trumpeter are also del prado casts#116 and #119 so if you agreed about the others take a look at the two del prado numbers that I just posted and you,ll agree with me even more. I wouldn,t mind so much if he would offer them at a lower price but to rehash them and jack up the price also to $65 plus! I think its time to buy the del prado instead and save a ton of money as the del prados can be had at $20-$30 each, less than half the price and the painting on the del prados is sometimes just as good as K&C or close to the same. The last batch of del prado/K&C conversions, I though had a high price because it was a limited edtion. I just think that he could pass on the saving seeing as how hes not having to sculpt new figures or cast new moulds for these figures. How munch more effort is it to glue on a different arm or glue the head facing a different way. And how munch more time does it take to touch up the paint on a figure because thats the only difference I see on some of the paint jobs on the del prado figures is that they just need a little touch up here and there. I know that i,ll get some slack from the K&C pack for this post but if K&C is the best of the best you would think could come up with some more original new figures. I love the K&C napoleonic line and have all that have been released so far but I really wish that he would try to give us something new or at least pass on the savings of these del prado conversions because if they can sell the del prado at these prices why is he charging us $65 for a figure when del prado sells the same for $20-$30!!! Think about it???

 

[nmrocks]

The flag bearer and trumpeter are also del prado casts#116 and #119 so if you agreed about the others take a look at the two del prado numbers that I just posted and you,ll agree with me even more. I wouldn,t mind so much if he would offer them at a lower price but to rehash them and jack up the price also to $65 plus! I think its time to buy the del prado instead and save a ton of money as the del prados can be had at $20-$30 each, less than half the price and the painting on the del prados is sometimes just as good as K&C or close to the same. The last batch of del prado/K&C conversions, I though had a high price because it was a limited edtion.

I agree with you on the Del Prado vs K&C issue, in addition one of the reasons I even hold back on the Del Prado is the lack of action poses. I did purchase the limited edition mounted general figure and the paint is far superior, however as you say it was a very limited run.
If nothing else thank you for alerting us to the alternative, doing my own Del Prado repaint might make for a fun project.
Ray

 

[Peter Reuss]

You can see Andy's comments on the K&C CHasseurs in the "Recent Posts…replies & Rebuttals" thread.

 

[OzDigger]

Imo Del Prado deliberately have less action poses to provide a wider appeal to people that collect figures for display rather than diorama or similar use.

 

[bricoleur]

The flag bearer and trumpeter are also del prado casts#116 and #119 so if you agreed about the others take a look at the two del prado numbers that I just posted and you,ll agree with me even more. I wouldn,t mind so much if he would offer them at a lower price but to rehash them and jack up the price also to $65 plus! I think its time to buy the del prado instead and save a ton of money as the del prados can be had at $20-$30 each, less than half the price and the painting on the del prados is sometimes just as good as K&C or close to the same. The last batch of del prado/K&C conversions, I though had a high price because it was a limited edtion. I just think that he could pass on the saving seeing as how hes not having to sculpt new figures or cast new moulds for these figures. How munch more effort is it to glue on a different arm or glue the head facing a different way. And how munch more time does it take to touch up the paint on a figure because thats the only difference I see on some of the paint jobs on the del prado figures is that they just need a little touch up here and there. I know that i,ll get some slack from the K&C pack for this post but if K&C is the best of the best you would think could come up with some more original new figures. I love the K&C napoleonic line and have all that have been released so far but I really wish that he would try to give us something new or at least pass on the savings of these del prado conversions because if they can sell the del prado at these prices why is he charging us $65 for a figure when del prado sells the same for $20-$30!!! Think about it???

Fishead,
Thanks for this news. I believe I'm a little bit behind with the Del Prado stuff. I can not find the trumpeter and the standard bearer. What is the E-link?
Thanks,
Eddy

 

[fishead19690]

Fishead,
Thanks for this news. I believe I'm a little bit behind with the Del Prado stuff. I can not find the trumpeter and the standard bearer. What is the E-link?
Thanks,
Eddy

Do a search on ebay, del prado with number of the figure you wish to look at and you should find them. I don,t know of a site that would have pictures of the higher numbers yet. If they don,t come up on ebay just try again in a couple of days, they sell these figures on there all the time.

 

[wellington]

To be quite frank.......I'm tired of calvary in this line....I'd rather see more foot soldiers or even dismounted calvary. I also agree with Fishead, it is disappointing to see any of the K&C stuff even remotely close to the Del Prado stuff. I do agree that British calvary was needed and Andy did a graet job on the Scots especially NA87. The price for these are getting to steep for me I'm finding now I will only order 3 or 4 at a time just can't afford or justify $600.00 for 7 or 8 figures. I know there is Del Prado but I'd rather do with out and keep what money I can afford for K&C. The Chasseurs do look nice though and I will eventually get them.

CHEERS
WELLINGTON

 

[bricoleur]

Thanks for showing the blister, Fishead and I agree with you for 100% . It seems to be the little brother of the k&C chasseur. I'll go for the Del Prado's and I'll repaint them in the same way as the K&C's with oilpaints.
Eddy

 

[fishead19690]

To be quite frank.......I'm tired of calvary in this line....I'd rather see more foot soldiers or even dismounted calvary. I also agree with Fishead, it is disappointing to see any of the K&C stuff even remotely close to the Del Prado stuff. I do agree that British calvary was needed and Andy did a graet job on the Scots especially NA87. The price for these are getting to steep for me I'm finding now I will only order 3 or 4 at a time just can't afford or justify $600.00 for 7 or 8 figures. I know there is Del Prado but I'd rather do with out and keep what money I can afford for K&C. The Chasseurs do look nice though and I will eventually get them.

CHEERS
WELLINGTON

I hear you wellington!(more foot figures) The scotts greys look great! I,ll get them all! And wouldn,t it have been nice to get some more of the french foot figures from the 45 line to go with them instead of more chasseurs.(half that last batch of del prado conversions were dull static pose chasseurs) I just think its over kill on the chasseurs.The least he could have done was add some action to them. I think hes just tring save a buck with the del prado casts and get more mileage from them and its a business, I can see his side of it. Who knows may be someday in the future i,ll get my plastic king and counrty wish also??? Can you release the del prado line in plastic andy???After andy reads this post i,m sure i,ll be called worst that fishbait on the next rebuttle! I think most of the napoleonic collectors would like to see more foot figures also but with 120 del prado horses sitting around I think you,ll be seeing a lot more cavalry come troting down the new release lists for awhile wellington.

 

[nmrocks]

Imo Del Prado deliberately have less action poses to provide a wider appeal to people that collect figures for display rather than diorama or similar use.

Less action doesn't appeal to me and I don't buy band figures either!
Ray
PS if thats true, Del Prado would be putting out a line of "great Marching Bands"

 

[fishead19690]

Do a search on ebay, del prado with number of the figure you wish to look at and you should find them. I don,t know of a site that would have pictures of the higher numbers yet. If they don,t come up on ebay just try again in a couple of days, they sell these figures on there all the time.

has anyone noticed that del prado has gotten the books mixed up on the last two cavalry figures.

 

[fishead19690]

And this is del prado #119, read the book behind the figure and you,ll see the the books have gotten mixed up. the book on this figure should be standard bearer of the chasseurs of the guard.

 

[wellington]

I guess it shows the care and knowledge Del Prado has about their product......

Cheers
WELLINGTON

 

[Fubar]

Yes, A few More 45th line would be a nice compliment for an entire scene with the Scot's Greys.I too must have the Greys even though I already have 24 Frontline and Niena!
I don't mind mixing the larger KC and delprado with the rest of my 54mm collection .Strange because it bothers me for WW2 displays.

While I love the action of a cavalry charge , more troopers on walking or trotting mounts is nice too.I layout big scenes and I like the look of Cavalry enmasse in reserve, Sabres shouldered.Right now, just about all of my Cavalry poses are all charging madly into the fray. British, French, Dutch, Russians , Prussians etc.

Is ebay about the only place one can find these Del Prado Napoleonic Troopers here in the USA?

Today is June 18, Waterloo anniversary and Fathers day here in the USA.
I think I am entitled being a Father to set up the troops and enjoy myself with my Waterloo collection!

 

[fishead19690]

Fubar the del prado have now been released in the USA but you must wait for the figures to be released one by one in numbered order as they are on a subscription system where you get one or two per month,(kind of like buying those old franklin mint chess sets one figure a month) and you have to wait till the month that figure is coming out to purchase it so if you want any of the higher number figures you,ve got a long wait and may want to just try and find them on ebay. I think only about 8 of the cavalry are available here in the usa right now. Yes I know the system sucks but at least they are available in the usa now. Heres a link for the USA and a few other dealers also have them also.http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/newmetal_folder/del_prado/del_prado.html

 

[fishead19690]

Heres the release list!http://www.delpradousa.com/delPrado_series_3.html

 

[OzDigger]

Is it just me, or do those new K & C 'Greys' look similar to the poses in that famous painting?

Btw, very nice looking horsies Mr Andy C