Are you a 1/72 scale collector? (3 Viewers)

[TomNT]

Yes, you are correct. I jumped the gun on the statistical part.

You know the old saying : "Lies, ****ed lies, and statistics" !

Have to agree about sweeping dios and Warriors dio's certainly inspiring.

I recall a producer telling me the story about a wealthy collector who called up and just said I will take
10 of everything you make. Now that is the way to be able to buy !!

As I joke to some of my collectors the fantasy if I was incredibly rich would be to have a huge gaming room and massive TS displays on table tennis tables. I would sit up high on a tennis umpires chair directing my
assistants to deploy the troops at my command.

Oh well, back to work !!

Brett

Brett

You can still get the high umpires chair so you can keep an eye on the dodgy lot every Thursday evening! :rolleyes2:^&grin

Tom

 

[theBaron]

Yes, you are correct. I jumped the gun on the statistical part.

Not sure, if a person who is interested in history and who would like to create sweeping dioramas to represent various events in history would be very likely to collect 54mm or 60mm figures at today's current prices. I certainly wouldn't. The smaller scales are a worthy option for them. If I started today in this hobby, just about all of my collection would comprise of 28mm-painted figures. They do look amazing in the dioramas that I have seen on this forum! 54mm-painted figures are another affordable option for new collectors. I don't currently have any smaller scales in my collection but I am considering it, if I shoulld decide to start a new era. We have to put things in perspective, the cost of a single, metal, painted foot figure today is similar to the cost incurred by a family of four at a fast food restaurant!

That is also a very good point, and it's one reason why so many dioramas in so many museums in Germany and elsewhere in Central Europe use smaller-scale flats.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Fubar]

Some pix of massed Napoleonic's from last Summer.We've had two other battles over the Holidays. Russians and Austrians closing on a French Corps from 2 different directions with French trapped between them.
French Allied rearguard managed to keep the Austrians at bay, while finally managing to drive in the Russians, and escape the trap.Losing most of their Allies but that's what they're for , isn't it?

 

[OzDigger]

Don't forget the collectors of prebuilt diecast metal Tanks, Vehicles and Aircraft, without the option I had to vote for figures in the poll but I collect far more vehicles and aircraft than figures.

I had a number of 1:48/50 scale models but switched to 1/72 scale because of the larger range of prebuilt diecast models available. The detail on 1/72 aircraft, tanks etc is amazing and if you intend to collect a wide range and number of prototypes or intend to represent larger battles then 1/72 is the scale to follow as the models are relatively small.

 

[Warrior]

Brett's comment jibes with observations of the wargamer shows. I see at least 3 times as many people at the Historicon/ColdWars/FallIn event, than I see at the largest toy soldier or connoisseur figure shows.

Prost!
Brad

Couldn't agree more. I attended the Secaucus Toy Soldier Show on March 3rd; with Hackensack and Freeport being cancelled last November due to Sandy, this show was the first toy soldier show in the area in close to a year, I thought it would be packed with collectors who had a lot of pend up demand.

That was not the case; the show started at 9:00am and by noon, it was basically over, monumentally disappointing.

The following weekend I attended Cold Wars, the Spring wargaming show in Lancaster PA; it was a three day show, it was crowded all three days with north of 2,000 attendees and I had an excellent, excellent show, did far better than I did at Secaucus.

They build and paint their own models, paint their own figures and then enjoy gaming and getting together with friends, the social aspect at wargaming shows, specifically the gaming hall, is very positive and upbeat.

I enjoy all aspects of the wargaming shows, I always have a great time at them, I see a lot of my toy soldier customers at them and they appear to be having a lot of fun.

 

[Ragnar]

Nice one Harold,did you pick up some new buildings?...they look good.
I se you have Highlanders now nice...Anyshots of the Austrians or Ruskies.

 

[Jack]

Couldn't agree more. I attended the Secaucus Toy Soldier Show on March 3rd; with Hackensack and Freeport being cancelled last November due to Sandy, this show was the first toy soldier show in the area in close to a year, I thought it would be packed with collectors who had a lot of pend up demand.

That was not the case; the show started at 9:00am and by noon, it was basically over, monumentally disappointing.

The following weekend I attended Cold Wars, the Spring wargaming show in Lancaster PA; it was a three day show, it was crowded all three days with north of 2,000 attendees and I had an excellent, excellent show, did far better than I did at Secaucus.

They build and paint their own models, paint their own figures and then enjoy gaming and getting together with friends, the social aspect at wargaming shows, specifically the gaming hall, is very positive and upbeat.

I enjoy all aspects of the wargaming shows, I always have a great time at them, I see a lot of my toy soldier customers at them and they appear to be having a lot of fun.

Is the difference because of a different demographic or because wargaming demands interaction, thereby creating a more 'social' atmosphere?

 

[jazzeum]

Comparing Secaucus to Lancaster is not an apt comparison. Secaucus is very small show and is never a good show in my opinion whereas Lancaster, from what I understand, is very large. A better comparison would probably be Hackensack, New Jersey or Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, much larger shows attended by dealers from as far as the South and Midwest.

in addition, as Warrior notes, a different kind of collector.

 

[aujj65]

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Some pix of massed Napoleonic's from last Summer.We've had two other battles over the Holidays. Russians and Austrians closing on a French Corps from 2 different directions with French trapped between them.
French Allied rearguard managed to keep the Austrians at bay, while finally managing to drive in the Russians, and escape the trap.Losing most of their Allies but that's what they're for , isn't it?

Always a big fan of your displays Fubar! Reminds me of the days I used to wargame in this scale.

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Jeff

 

[Fubar]

Nice one Harold,did you pick up some new buildings?...they look good.
I se you have Highlanders now nice...Anyshots of the Austrians or Ruskies.

Nar, The buidlings are from GRAND MANNER. Found a deal for painted Spanish village on ebay. They were even better than expected and for less than the cost of unpainted sets too.
Have a nice Anglo Allied army for Waterloo. x 4 battalions of Kings German Legion, a few Line battalions, Highlanders and Rifle Battalions for elite troops, lots of Dutch,Belgians and Brunswick.
Never took any pix of the Austrians.For once we managed to put everything away after a day long game.My opponent has the Russians and it was the first outing on the table top. 2 years worth of collecting and painting and they did what the Russians are supposed to do.His batteries and Cavalry were silenced or routed and the infantry did their best to block the way.In square. They fared poorly but did not retreat.
We'll have a rematch soon.
I'll start a new post for small scale next week when we get our LOTR deployed.
fub

 

[Warrior]

Is the difference because of a different demographic or because wargaming demands interaction, thereby creating a more 'social' atmosphere?

That is a great point; yes, wargaming requires interaction, which as you pointed out creates a more social, laid back atmosphere.

When I attend wargaming shows, the customers and attendees seem to be very upbeat, they chat about how they are going to use items they are buying from me in future games, they invite me to stop by their games after the dealer hall closes and have a few adult beverages, they really seem to enjoy their hobby................

 

[Warrior]

Comparing Secaucus to Lancaster is not an apt comparison. Secaucus is very small show and is never a good show in my opinion whereas Lancaster, from what I understand, is very large. A better comparison would probably be Hackensack, New Jersey or Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, much larger shows attended by dealers from as far as the South and Midwest.

in addition, as Warrior notes, a different kind of collector.

Brad,

You are right and also wrong; Secaucus used to be a great show, I recall one year Louis brought the attendees from his get together, Andy was there, Shannon and Pete were there as well, the show was mobbed, I was busy all day long.

The past couple of Secaucus shows have been poorly attended and duds in my opinion.

As far as Valley Forge; I enjoy that show very much, I have always done well there, the club that runs it does a great job, the exhibit area is specatular, but that show is not the same either.

When I first started attending, the entire floor of the convention center was packed with dealers, Andy used to come all the way from Hong Kong to attend and sell K & C figures. The show is now half the size it used to be; Saturday used to be a mob scene, I'd be swamped most of the morning, this is not the case anymore.

Not quite sure what is going on, the shows in Virginia are very well attended and I do very well at all of them, very enthusiastic collectors down in the MD, DE and VA area.

And yes, you are right in that wargaming is different, but Cold Wars in the Spring, Historicon in the Summer and Fall In in November are the three flagship shows of HMGS, Historical Miniatures Gaming Society, between the three they get 5,000 or so attendees.

Between Secaucus, Valley Forge and Hackensack, the three biggest East Coast shows, you're lucky to get half that number to show up, I don't get it...................

 

[maddadicus]

Brad,

You are right and also wrong; Secaucus used to be a great show, I recall one year Louis brought the attendees from his get together, Andy was there, Shannon and Pete were there as well, the show was mobbed, I was busy all day long.

The past couple of Secaucus shows have been poorly attended and duds in my opinion.

As far as Valley Forge; I enjoy that show very much, I have always done well there, the club that runs it does a great job, the exhibit area is specatular, but that show is not the same either.

When I first started attending, the entire floor of the convention center was packed with dealers, Andy used to come all the way from Hong Kong to attend and sell K & C figures. The show is now half the size it used to be; Saturday used to be a mob scene, I'd be swamped most of the morning, this is not the case anymore.

Not quite sure what is going on, the shows in Virginia are very well attended and I do very well at all of them, very enthusiastic collectors down in the MD, DE and VA area.

And yes, you are right in that wargaming is different, but Cold Wars in the Spring, Historicon in the Summer and Fall In in November are the three flagship shows of HMGS, Historical Miniatures Gaming Society, between the three they get 5,000 or so attendees.

Between Secaucus, Valley Forge and Hackensack, the three biggest East Coast shows, you're lucky to get half that number to show up, I don't get it...................

I agree about Valley Forge becoming a smaller show. It seems when the club moved the venue for a bit, the show lost its spark. Some of my best and unique buys came from Valley Forge in the early days. Now, I basically go around the room a few times and pick up odds and ends. If it was not for lunchtime with Louis and company, the show last year would have been a snooze...Michael

 

[Warrior]

I agree about Valley Forge becoming a smaller show. It seems when the club moved the venue for a bit, the show lost its spark. Some of my best and unique buys came from Valley Forge in the early days. Now, I basically go around the room a few times and pick up odds and ends. If it was not for lunchtime with Louis and company, the show last year would have been a snooze...Michael

It's literally half the size it used to be. Vendors retiring/slowing down/passing away have a lot to do with it, but attendance from the collectors standpoint is down too.

When Historicon, the Summer wargaming show moved to the VFCC for two years, the entire floor was full the first year, not as much the second year.

When the toy soldier show moved to Delaware for two years, I felt it was still a strong show, well attended by collectors and vendors; when it moved back to VF, I noticed quite a drop in both areas.

 

[sammy719]

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Some pix of massed Napoleonic's from last Summer.We've had two other battles over the Holidays. Russians and Austrians closing on a French Corps from 2 different directions with French trapped between them.
French Allied rearguard managed to keep the Austrians at bay, while finally managing to drive in the Russians, and escape the trap.Losing most of their Allies but that's what they're for , isn't it?

WOW!!! sweet looking battle scene Fubar!! this is just the reason why I do enjoy the smaller scales, when you can amass armies as these shown and still are very detailed it really gives some great perspective what you can do with this scale, again great collection...Sammy

 

[graycap]

Used to play wargames back in 60s and 70s and have returned once again following retirement. Collect WWII and post-war plastic in 1/72 and 1/76 scales.Looking forward to attending the big wargaming event SALUTE 2013 on 20th April in London Docklands.

 

[sammy719]

Used to play wargames back in 60s and 70s and have returned once again following retirement. Collect WWII and post-war plastic in 1/72 and 1/76 scales.Looking forward to attending the big wargaming event SALUTE 2013 on 20th April in London Docklands.

Hi Graycap, I have a friend (David Marshall) who goes to the Salute wargaming and also is making some dioramas for the show, we have had as few conversations and he mentioned that the Salute show is one of his favorite of all the shows, hope you can post some photos of the show if you are able to...Sammy

 

[Warrior]

Looking forward to attending the big wargaming event SALUTE 2013 on 20th April in London Docklands.

Salute is on my bucket list, I've seen pictures of the traders area and the demo games at shows past, it looks spectacular on every level, have a great time...........

 

[Ragnar]

There is supposed to be a BIG 40mm Alamo game being unvailed at Salute 2013...anyone going please take some pics.

 

[graycap]

Hi Graycap, I have a friend (David Marshall) who goes to the Salute wargaming and also is making some dioramas for the show, we have had as few conversations and he mentioned that the Salute show is one of his favorite of all the shows, hope you can post some photos of the show if you are able to...Sammy

Will certainly do my best!